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Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial

From Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial
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John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> writes:
> How about before we have that discussion, we first discuss if the
> "real-world C programs and the protocols that they implement" make
> sense for this target?"  That's not a question you seem to be asking
> much in this thread.

Shrug.  You were the one offering to explain C implementation strategy
for these processors.  Bytes and characters are pervasive in C, but
your prescription seems to be "ignore them".

Cryptography was one of the suggested applications of the GA chip on the
old version of the web site.  They seem to have gotten rid of that now,
which is probably a good thing.  Most cryptographic primitives I can
think of make heavy use of 8-bit operations (32 bit in some cases),
multi-bit rotations, etc.  

> So if you expect to just copy C code you've written elsewhere and have
> it run on the chip's nodes,..  If you want to be able to do that, then
> yeah, set up an efficient VM and have it execute some abstracted
> representation of your code.  ...That's useful if ...  you want to
> dedicate some nodes for a lower-speed application processor. 

Right, we're back to how this started.  I brought up Greg Bailey's
suggestion of a VM and you criticized it saying to target the node
processors directly.

> I don't want that.  I'm interested in the kinds of processing for the
> nodes that I see make sense for the kind of work I do.  Things like
> audio DSP algorithms, where 8-bit character data is irrelevant.

The most ubiquitous audio DSP algorithms that need a lot of cpu power
are probably mobile phone speech codecs.  And then you get to deal with
packet formats, error correction codes, etc., all of which involve
8-bit character data.

> For example, say I wanted to implement a D/A converter for audio.
> Samples fly in through the communication port at some fixed rate, and
> I use that to change the duty cycle of a square wave coming out of a
> pin.  Of the 256-ish instructions possible for a particular processor
> (64 words by up to four instructions per word), I imagine a tightly
> coded loop for that processor would likely take no more than 32-ish
> instructions, or 12.5-ish of the address space.  Let's say a C
> compiler generating code took double that.  That still easily fits in
> the processor.

That sounds like the -DAC word that's already in the ROM of the GA144
analog nodes (sec 3.2 of the GA144 data book).  In any case I don't see
much gained from writing a 5-line function in C instead of Forth in a
situation like that.

I do take your point that the GA144 is really built for signals rather
than character data, and it took a while for this to sink in for me.
Recall that the early discussions of possible applications for it 
included things like disk controllers,  I can't help wondering if
they could have improved DSP performance quite a lot by making the ALU a
little bigger.  That wouldn't increase the node size that much, since
the node (in the photos) seems dominated by the ram, rom, and stacks.

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  Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial alberto pasquale <alberto@hal-pc.org> - 2011-04-18 12:55 -0700
    Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial "The Beez'" <hansoft@bigfoot.com> - 2011-04-18 14:45 -0700
      Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-19 09:06 +0000
    Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-18 20:30 -0700
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    Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@gmx.de> - 2011-04-19 13:04 +0200
      Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-04-19 22:09 +0200
        Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial "The Beez'" <hansoft@bigfoot.com> - 2011-04-19 23:40 -0700
          Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-04-20 21:27 +0200
            Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial alberto pasquale <alberto@hal-pc.org> - 2011-04-20 14:56 -0700
              Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-04-20 22:42 +0000
              Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 22:26 -0700
              Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-04-21 20:51 +0200
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                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-04-26 22:23 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-26 13:34 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-04-27 14:48 +0000
            Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-21 04:07 -0500
              Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-21 07:38 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-21 08:10 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-22 12:35 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-22 08:51 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-23 10:17 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial gavino <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 18:05 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-21 11:16 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-04-23 11:26 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial gavino <gavcomedy@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 18:07 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 00:10 -0700
              Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-21 11:38 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-21 15:13 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-21 14:07 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-21 15:05 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-21 15:24 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-22 12:48 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 10:51 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-21 17:41 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-21 18:16 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-21 18:58 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-21 19:49 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-22 00:02 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-22 06:59 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-23 01:20 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-21 21:11 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-22 00:16 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 10:12 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-04-23 07:38 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 00:05 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-04-25 13:34 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 08:50 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-25 23:11 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-22 00:18 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 10:19 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 10:43 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-25 13:17 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 16:32 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-25 18:21 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Charles G Montgomery <cgm@physics.utoledo.edu> - 2011-04-26 19:36 -0400
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                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-26 23:36 -0700
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                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-28 11:53 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-29 22:21 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-04-27 17:41 +0100
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                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-26 11:39 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-25 23:22 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-26 17:51 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-23 10:33 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 00:48 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-29 22:24 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-22 09:44 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 11:36 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-22 17:08 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-23 18:11 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-23 00:49 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-23 03:55 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:47 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-23 11:12 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-04-30 16:33 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-01 23:03 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-05-02 22:15 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-02 19:15 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-05-04 08:14 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-04 00:51 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-05-04 22:03 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-30 03:15 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-05-01 19:04 -1000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-27 22:58 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-28 03:37 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-28 08:54 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-28 12:12 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-28 21:34 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-29 02:27 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-29 15:09 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-05-02 21:47 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 10:49 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-28 21:57 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-05-03 13:28 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 11:01 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:02 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-25 07:08 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-26 10:47 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-26 10:58 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-04-27 22:39 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-28 10:43 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2011-05-05 04:39 -0400
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-05-05 04:10 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial stephenXXX@mpeforth.com (Stephen Pelc) - 2011-04-23 09:53 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-04-23 14:59 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-04-23 16:10 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-01 23:47 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <john.passaniti@gmail.com> - 2011-05-03 14:23 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-04 01:48 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-05-04 05:23 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial John Passaniti <jpassaniti@ashly.com> - 2011-05-04 11:17 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial BruceMcF <agila61@netscape.net> - 2011-05-04 12:03 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-23 23:59 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2011-05-01 23:48 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-22 03:22 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 10:28 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-22 12:37 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial David Kuehling <dvdkhlng@gmx.de> - 2011-04-22 20:07 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-04-22 18:55 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-23 23:25 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-24 03:27 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 20:20 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-25 03:24 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-04-25 11:55 -1000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-25 23:45 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-04-25 21:49 -1000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-26 02:39 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Hugh Aguilar <hughaguilar96@yahoo.com> - 2011-04-26 03:19 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-04-26 10:01 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-23 03:43 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-23 23:53 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 20:27 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-25 03:35 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-26 00:20 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Andrew Haley <andrew29@littlepinkcloud.invalid> - 2011-04-26 04:02 -0500
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2011-04-26 22:40 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-25 14:16 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-25 23:25 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-26 02:47 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2011-04-26 10:22 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Alex McDonald <blog@rivadpm.com> - 2011-04-26 10:45 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-04-26 22:19 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial mhx@iae.nl (Marcel Hendrix) - 2011-04-27 21:05 +0200
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-22 11:44 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-04-22 11:46 -1000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Jan Coombs <jan_2011-02@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2011-04-23 08:02 +0100
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-23 23:46 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 01:32 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Elizabeth D Rather <erather@forth.com> - 2011-04-24 08:36 -1000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 19:43 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-24 21:07 -0700
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-25 11:04 +0000
                Re: made it to page 4 of gforth tutorial foxchip <fox@ultratechnology.com> - 2011-04-25 23:02 -0700
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