Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!]

Date	2024-09-12 18:21 +1000
Subject	Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!]
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On 12/09/2024 4:51 pm, Paul Rubin wrote:
> dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Looking at an application with 154 colon definitions...
>> From the same app:
>> The easiest stack operations (DUP DROP) account for most.
> 
> Is the code for this app available?

Previously posted.  You may have seen it.

https://pastebin.com/2xcRSbQW

>> SWAP averaged 1 in 7 definitions.  OVER 1 in 9.  Is 'stack juggling' a
>> problem in forth?  It doesn't appear to be.
> 
> The 100+ occurrences of DUP, DROP, and SWAP are either an abstraction
> inversion (with a smart compiler, the data ends up in registers that
> could be named by locals) or they are stack traffic whose cost has to be
> compared with the cost of indexed references to locals in the return
> stack.  I'd agree that they aren't necessary "juggling" which evokes
> permuting stuff in the stack outside the usual FIFO order.  That does
> happpen a little bit though, with OVER, ROT, etc.

If a cost, it's one the programmer can keep to minimum.  With locals there's
an upfront cost that can't be avoided.  Using registers is appealing until
one realizes a call to an external function necessitates placing it back on
the stack.  Costs multiply in the face of many small functions.  Moore touches
on this in one of his speeches:

"I keep asking that question.  What is Forth?  Forth is highly factored code.
 I don't know anything else to say except that Forth is definitions.  If you
 have a lot of small definitions you are writing Forth.  In order to write a
 lot of small definitions you have to have a stack.  Stacks are not popular.
 Its strange to me that they are not.  There is a just lot of pressure from
 vested interests that don't like stacks, they like registers.  Stacks are not
 a solve all problems concept but they are very very useful, especially for
 information hiding and you have to have two of them." - Chuck Moore 1999

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"Back & Forth" is back! Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-08-10 12:57 +0200
  Re: "Back & Forth" is back! dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-08-11 13:35 +1000
    Re: "Back & Forth" is back! Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-08-11 14:46 +0200
  Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 09:04 -0700
    Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-08-30 20:32 +0000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] BuzzMcCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 23:00 -0700
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-02 09:03 -0700
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 11:23 +1000
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-02 22:53 -0700
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 17:27 +1000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 11:20 +0200
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-11 09:49 +0000
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 14:41 +0200
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 14:01 +1000
    Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-08-31 11:05 +1000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] BuzzMcCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 22:59 -0700
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:18 +0200
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:37 +0200
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:42 +0200
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-06 14:03 -0700
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-07 14:40 +0200
              Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-10 04:26 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 23:19 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 12:03 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 14:32 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-11 23:51 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 18:21 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-12 09:08 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-12 10:11 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-12 10:31 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-12 10:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-13 09:37 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-13 07:56 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-13 19:47 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-13 03:38 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Jan Coombs <jan4comp.lang.forth@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2024-09-13 13:07 +0100
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-13 17:59 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 01:12 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-14 01:56 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 21:56 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-14 09:10 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 15:17 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 09:52 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 12:46 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:14 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-13 13:07 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-13 18:07 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 12:48 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-14 05:47 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 06:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 18:40 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-15 15:04 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-15 16:16 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-15 21:35 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 14:45 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-16 12:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-16 14:37 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 17:37 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 18:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 19:26 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-17 06:53 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 17:29 +0000
                value-flavoured structures (was: Avoid treating the stack as an array) Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 12:15 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-27 08:51 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-27 09:38 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 16:27 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-27 12:46 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 23:28 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-27 19:13 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 14:19 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-27 22:38 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-28 13:21 +0200
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-28 10:52 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-28 11:06 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 14:04 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-03 16:32 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 13:00 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-10-04 23:27 +0200
                Re: value-flavoured structures (was: Avoid treating the stack as an array) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-03 15:58 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:17 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 11:52 +0000
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                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 18:04 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 15:06 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-05 15:52 +0000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 12:32 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 14:52 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 15:08 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:41 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-14 18:54 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 19:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-15 06:17 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 07:30 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 07:35 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:42 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 18:14 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 08:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-15 09:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2024-09-15 12:06 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 09:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 10:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 10:36 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 22:47 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 13:21 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 13:33 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-16 12:16 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 19:55 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 21:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-17 10:47 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-17 09:12 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-17 08:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-17 07:24 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 09:56 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 14:11 +1000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-16 08:48 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 20:01 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:20 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 15:28 +1000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-12 08:55 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 12:39 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 16:26 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-17 12:18 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-18 13:08 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-17 22:39 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-18 17:30 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-18 13:10 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-19 14:14 +1000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-28 22:36 +0000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-29 11:44 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 16:13 +1000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 11:02 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-11 13:29 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-12 00:10 -0700
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              Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-08 16:09 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-09 17:15 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-09 21:16 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 12:21 +1000
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