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Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!]

From anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth
Subject Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!]
Date 2024-09-16 17:29 +0000
Organization Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
Message-ID <2024Sep16.192920@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> (permalink)
References <nnd$61e0ad9a$48ed61c2@b4d945e456041481> <2024Sep14.081952@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vc6t1b$27sna$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep15.181634@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vc7ju4$2cu8t$1@dont-email.me>

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Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> writes:
>On 15 Sep 2024 at 18:16:34 CEST, "Anton Ertl" <Anton Ertl> wrote:
>
>>> I can buy a lot of CPU cycles for the cost of one day of programmer
>>> time.
>> 
>> Some guy called Stephen Pelc (must be a different one) recentlu posted
>> <vbkdu0$1v8lq$1@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>> |We (MPE) converted much of our TCP/IP stack not to use locals. This
>> |was mostly on ARM7 devices, but the figures for other 32 bit CPUs of
>> |the period (say 15 years ago) were similar. Code density improved by
>> |about 25% and performance by about 50%.
>> 
>> How much time did that conversion cost?  And this Stephen Pelc
>> suggested that Buzz McCool (and probably everyone else) should also
>> spend their time on avoiding and eliminating locals from their code.
>> 
>> I am with you here, not with the other Stephen Pelc: Programmers
>> should use locals liberally if it saves them time, even in the face of
>> slow locals implementations, because you can buy a lot of CPU cycles
>> for the additional programming cost of avoiding locals.
>
>What you ignore is that the constraints of embedded systems with small
>alow CPUs (by comparison with desktop CPUs) are very different from
>those of desktop CPUs. Converting the TCP/IP stack was driven by the
>client requirement to fit a TCP/IP app into 128k/256k Flash and 16k RAM.
>
>I would not make that trade off today.

Interesting.  So why mention it in <vbkdu0$1v8lq$1@dont-email.me>
without adding that?  And why do you write "What you ignore is [...]"
if the situation has vanished.

In any case, if such a situation still exists or reappears, and/or
customers who want more performance or smaller code appear, it seems
to me that the better (more general, i.e., the ultimate evil in the
eyes of some) solution is a native-code compiler that tries to keep
all values in registers, whether from the data, return, or FP stack or
in locals, and tries to do that throughout the definition, not just in
a basic block.

I should have found the time to do that long ago, maybe some day I
will.

- anton
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  Re: "Back & Forth" is back! dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-08-11 13:35 +1000
    Re: "Back & Forth" is back! Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-08-11 14:46 +0200
  Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 09:04 -0700
    Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-08-30 20:32 +0000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] BuzzMcCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 23:00 -0700
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-02 09:03 -0700
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 11:23 +1000
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-02 22:53 -0700
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 17:27 +1000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 11:20 +0200
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-11 09:49 +0000
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 14:41 +0200
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 14:01 +1000
    Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-08-31 11:05 +1000
      Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] BuzzMcCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-08-30 22:59 -0700
        Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:18 +0200
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:37 +0200
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-05 17:42 +0200
          Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Buzz McCool <buzz_mccool@yahoo.com> - 2024-09-06 14:03 -0700
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-07 14:40 +0200
              Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-10 04:26 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 23:19 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 12:03 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 14:32 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-11 23:51 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 18:21 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-12 09:08 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-12 10:11 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-12 10:31 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-12 10:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-13 09:37 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-13 07:56 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-13 19:47 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-13 03:38 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Jan Coombs <jan4comp.lang.forth@murray-microft.co.uk> - 2024-09-13 13:07 +0100
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-13 17:59 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 01:12 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-14 01:56 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 21:56 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-14 09:10 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 15:17 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 09:52 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 12:46 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:14 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-13 13:07 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-13 18:07 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 12:48 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-14 05:47 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 06:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-14 18:40 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-15 15:04 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-15 16:16 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-15 21:35 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 14:45 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-16 12:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-16 14:37 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 17:37 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 18:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 19:26 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-17 06:53 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 17:29 +0000
                value-flavoured structures (was: Avoid treating the stack as an array) Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 12:15 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-27 08:51 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-27 09:38 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 16:27 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-27 12:46 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 23:28 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-27 19:13 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 14:19 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-27 22:38 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-28 13:21 +0200
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-28 10:52 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-28 11:06 -0700
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-28 14:04 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-03 16:32 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 13:00 +1000
                Re: value-flavoured structures albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-10-04 23:27 +0200
                Re: value-flavoured structures (was: Avoid treating the stack as an array) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-03 15:58 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:17 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 11:52 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 19:17 +0400
                Re: value-flavoured structures anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 18:04 +0000
                Re: value-flavoured structures Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> - 2024-10-05 15:06 +0400
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 12:32 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 14:52 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-14 15:08 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 17:41 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-14 18:54 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-14 19:19 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-15 06:17 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 07:30 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 07:35 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:42 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 18:14 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-15 08:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-15 09:58 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (ahmed) - 2024-09-15 12:06 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 09:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 10:13 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 10:36 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 22:47 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] melahi_ahmed@yahoo.fr (Ahmed) - 2024-09-16 13:21 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 13:33 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-16 12:16 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 19:55 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-16 21:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-17 10:47 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-17 09:12 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-17 08:43 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-17 07:24 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 09:56 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 14:11 +1000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-16 08:48 +0000
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                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 15:28 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-15 11:53 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-12 08:55 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-15 12:39 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-16 16:26 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-17 12:18 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-18 13:08 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-17 22:39 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-18 17:30 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-18 13:10 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-19 14:14 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-28 13:49 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-28 22:36 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-29 14:22 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-29 11:44 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-30 16:13 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-29 14:40 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] mhx@iae.nl (mhx) - 2024-09-29 16:53 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-29 11:33 -0700
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 11:02 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-11 13:29 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Paul Rubin <no.email@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-12 00:10 -0700
            Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Stephen Pelc <stephen@vfxforth.com> - 2024-09-08 14:56 +0000
              Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-08 16:09 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] Hans Bezemer <the.beez.speaks@gmail.com> - 2024-09-09 17:15 +0200
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] minforth@gmx.net (minforth) - 2024-09-09 21:16 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 12:21 +1000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl - 2024-09-10 12:10 +0200
              Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-08 16:27 +0000
                Re: Avoid treating the stack as an array [Re: "Back & Forth" is back!] anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-09-09 17:34 +0000

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