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do { quit; } else { }

Started byThiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>
First post2025-04-04 16:23 -0300
Last post2025-10-16 00:43 +0100
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  do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 16:23 -0300
    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-04 21:18 +0100
      Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 17:31 -0300
    Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-04 20:34 +0000
      Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 17:37 -0300
        Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-04 21:01 +0000
          Re: do { quit; } else { } "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 14:36 -0700
      Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-04 20:39 +0000
        Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 17:43 -0300
          Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 17:46 -0300
        Re: do { quit; } else { } candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-08 19:00 +0000
      Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-05 14:54 +0000
        Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-05 17:54 +0200
          Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-05 16:10 +0000
            Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-05 23:37 +0200
              Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-06 14:41 +0000
            Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-06 10:52 +0300
              Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-06 14:45 +0000
    Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-04 13:48 -0700
      Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-04 17:58 -0300
        Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-06 05:47 -0700
          Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-06 16:13 +0300
            Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-06 07:32 -0700
              Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-06 19:03 +0300
                Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-07 05:45 -0700
                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-07 21:02 +0300
                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-07 19:31 +0100
                      Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-08 10:12 +0200
                        Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-08 12:35 +0100
                          Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-08 16:50 +0200
                            Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-08 17:28 +0100
                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-08 10:32 -0700
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-08 19:04 +0100
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-08 14:18 -0700
                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-08 23:38 +0100
                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-08 16:27 -0700
                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-09 01:02 +0100
                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 22:55 -0700
                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 22:56 -0700
                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-09 15:07 -0700
                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 00:49 +0100
                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 00:20 +0000
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-10 12:08 +0300
                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 16:23 +0000
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 12:00 +0100
                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 04:28 -0700
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 14:34 +0100
                                                      Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-10 14:33 +0000
                                                        Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 16:12 +0100
                                                          Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 00:18 +0200
                                                            Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 00:10 +0100
                                                              Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 17:41 -0700
                                                              Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-11 02:45 +0000
                                                              Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 10:14 +0200
                                                                Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 12:32 +0100
                                                                  Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-11 14:50 +0300
                                                                    Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 12:56 +0100
                                                                      Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-11 15:12 +0300
                                                                        Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 15:12 +0200
                                                                        Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 15:55 +0100
                                                                  Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 15:02 +0200
                                                                  Re: Endless complaints Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-11 10:03 -0700
                                                                  Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 12:26 -0700
                                                          Re: Endless complaints [was Re: do { quit; } else { }] Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 15:27 -0700
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 15:23 -0700
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 00:49 +0100
                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 17:59 -0700
                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-11 14:26 +0300
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 16:11 +0200
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-11 17:22 +0000
                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 20:46 +0100
                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:10 -0700
                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-13 20:45 +0300
                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-11 19:05 -0700
                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-12 16:37 +0200
                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:25 -0700
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-13 11:40 +0200
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-13 20:17 -0400
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 17:51 -0700
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-13 22:23 -0400
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-14 11:07 +0200
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-14 15:03 +0000
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-14 23:17 -0400
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-14 11:22 +0200
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 18:15 -0700
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 11:20 -0700
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-05 16:12 -0700
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 16:36 -0700
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-05 17:01 -0700
                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 16:51 +0000
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-10 18:31 +0000
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 19:14 +0000
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 19:36 +0100
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 19:29 +0000
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 00:02 +0100
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-10 18:52 -0700
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:51 -0700
                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-10 22:55 -0700
                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 23:00 -0700
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 12:14 +0100
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 22:01 -0700
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 21:20 -0700
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 21:22 -0700
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 21:24 -0700
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 20:11 +0100
                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-11 10:07 -0700
                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 16:25 +0200
                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-09 15:38 +0100
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 16:42 +0200
                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-09 17:43 +0200
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 19:34 -0700
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2025-04-09 07:15 -0400
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 13:51 +0200
                              Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 11:42 +0200
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 13:04 +0300
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 14:06 +0200
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-11 12:27 -0400
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 13:11 +0300
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 14:11 +0200
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 13:16 +0300
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 14:24 +0200
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-09 11:51 +0100
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 14:36 +0200
                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-09 14:13 +0100
                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-09 16:00 +0200
                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-09 16:37 +0100
                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-10 20:40 -0400
                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-11 12:20 -0400
                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-11 17:30 +0000
                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-09 12:58 +0200
                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-09 14:23 +0300
                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-04-09 12:50 -0700
                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 14:44 -0700
                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-10 11:55 +0300
                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-10 14:46 +0200
                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 15:41 +0000
                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-10 21:05 +0200
                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-10 20:27 +0100
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-10 20:57 +0000
                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 11:17 +0200
                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 12:51 +0100
                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 16:25 +0200
                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 15:50 +0100
                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 17:24 +0200
                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 17:56 +0100
                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-11 20:29 +0200
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 13:58 -0700
                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-11 22:24 +0100
                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:36 -0700
                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 00:13 +0100
                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 16:59 -0700
                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 02:27 +0100
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 18:53 -0700
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-12 02:43 +0000
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 12:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-12 12:57 +0000
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 14:33 +0100
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-13 04:53 +0200
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-12 15:43 +0200
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 17:52 +0100
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-12 17:40 +0000
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 00:09 +0100
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-13 21:40 +0300
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-13 20:08 +0000
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-14 00:30 +0300
                                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-13 21:07 -0400
                                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 18:33 -0700
                                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-13 22:57 -0400
                                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 20:26 -0700
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 14:58 -0700
                                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 21:58 -0300
                                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 18:22 -0700
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 14:52 -0700
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-13 20:50 -0400
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 19:17 +0100
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-12 09:59 -0400
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 15:15 +0100
                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 06:33 +0200
                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-12 12:00 +0100
                                                                        Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-13 04:27 +0200
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 12:33 +0100
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 12:36 +0100
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-13 14:54 +0000
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 17:48 +0100
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 05:59 +0200
                                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-14 14:11 +0000
                                                                          Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 14:58 +0100
                                                                            Re: do { quit; } else { } Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-13 14:34 +0000
                                                                              Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-13 17:39 +0100
                                                                                Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 06:23 +0200
                                                                                  Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-14 11:16 +0100
                                                                                    Re: do { quit; } else { } tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2025-04-14 12:51 +0200
                                                                                      Re: do { quit; } else { } bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-14 12:12 +0100
                                                                                    Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:18 +0200
                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-14 15:33 +0300
                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-14 16:22 +0100
                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-15 09:17 +0200
                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-15 11:30 +0100
                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-15 15:34 +0300
                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-04-15 13:51 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 07:40 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 07:31 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-04 18:08 +0300
                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-05 10:42 +0300
                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-10 06:43 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-05-10 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-10 17:48 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-05-11 08:20 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-10 14:29 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-05-11 08:21 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-11 12:02 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2025-05-11 15:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-11 16:29 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-11 18:49 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 14:41 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-11 17:43 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 15:06 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-11 18:30 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-11 18:15 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-11 19:09 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 00:16 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 02:23 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 07:19 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-12 15:34 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 22:42 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-05-13 07:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-14 21:12 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 09:30 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:28 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:31 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-14 20:44 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-14 21:45 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-12 17:24 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-12 00:07 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 00:43 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 02:27 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-12 17:18 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-28 09:54 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-01-28 16:42 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-01-31 07:03 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-01-31 03:53 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-31 18:26 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-31 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-01-31 21:02 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-12 19:53 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 23:03 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-12 19:04 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-12 17:08 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:38 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-13 12:41 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-13 23:16 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 14:35 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 15:10 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 15:41 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 18:38 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 19:37 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-13 23:54 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 21:19 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-13 21:12 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 22:38 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-01 21:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 23:37 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-14 03:35 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 21:54 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-05-14 06:31 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-06-10 06:01 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-06-14 12:24 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-06-14 13:57 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-14 22:27 +0300
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 09:32 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-14 13:00 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-14 13:20 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-05-14 23:20 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-05-15 11:23 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-01-06 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-11 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-05-12 10:11 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-12 17:09 +0300
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-11 01:09 +0300
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-11 17:30 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-12 16:18 +0300
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-14 11:09 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-13 15:57 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:52 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-15 13:19 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-15 18:17 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-15 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-15 21:46 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 01:41 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-15 22:37 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 03:30 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 20:50 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 18:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 18:43 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-04-16 20:05 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-02-03 03:47 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-02-03 04:21 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tristan Wibberley <tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk> - 2026-02-04 23:40 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-02-05 08:10 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-05 11:30 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-02-05 15:21 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-16 14:12 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-16 07:35 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 12:32 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-16 15:08 +0300
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-16 14:23 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 21:32 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 15:31 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 15:01 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 15:34 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 11:01 +1000
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-19 09:20 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-16 14:21 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 15:06 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-16 10:47 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 16:14 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-16 18:18 +0300
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-16 12:28 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 13:03 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 23:14 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 17:26 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 02:26 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 20:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 15:37 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 15:19 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-18 16:58 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 18:27 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-19 09:09 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-17 00:59 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 02:09 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 21:43 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 23:42 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-16 23:49 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 01:48 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 19:18 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 12:16 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 14:36 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 11:47 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 20:18 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 12:55 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 21:44 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 15:32 -0700
                                                                                                                      Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-04-17 21:21 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-17 22:29 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-04-18 13:58 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-18 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 20:10 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 16:07 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-18 16:52 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:43 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-25 07:50 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2025-04-25 07:04 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-25 10:38 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-25 10:42 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-18 15:24 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-18 15:48 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 18:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 18:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-19 08:36 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Checking the loop variable after the loop has ended (Was: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { })) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 17:49 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-17 02:19 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 17:47 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 14:41 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-16 14:09 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-16 17:37 +0300
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-06 05:59 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-07 12:32 +0300
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-07 14:54 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-07 13:50 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-11 23:48 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 15:45 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-16 15:44 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 13:18 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-15 19:55 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-16 07:19 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-16 07:44 +0200
                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-16 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-18 16:40 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-18 14:10 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-18 23:27 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-19 08:27 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 11:26 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-19 13:32 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 14:05 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 12:54 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 20:57 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 14:07 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-20 00:34 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:18 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-20 12:43 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 18:46 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-20 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 15:36 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 00:29 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 19:08 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 12:26 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-21 03:16 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 12:57 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-21 18:43 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 20:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-21 20:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 00:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-21 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 10:32 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-04-22 01:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 02:24 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 10:47 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 11:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-22 19:19 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-22 19:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 21:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-22 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 00:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 16:59 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-23 00:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 11:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-23 10:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 14:50 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-23 16:00 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 17:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 07:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 09:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-23 17:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 18:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-23 18:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-23 21:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-24 15:12 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 15:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-24 17:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 18:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 17:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-25 15:19 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 07:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 09:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 10:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 12:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 14:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-24 14:25 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 14:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-24 15:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-24 18:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-24 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 18:26 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org - 2025-04-25 08:53 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2025-05-04 22:17 -0700
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-09-26 02:00 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-25 02:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-25 17:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-25 17:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-24 18:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-23 09:01 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 09:32 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 09:14 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 15:07 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-04-20 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-04-21 13:51 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 16:36 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-04-21 21:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-21 23:54 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 16:12 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 01:26 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 18:22 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 11:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 14:15 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 23:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 16:22 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 10:40 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 18:25 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 10:19 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 12:39 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 02:21 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-22 09:54 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-22 20:16 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 19:54 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-22 21:11 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-22 20:43 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-04-23 17:41 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-19 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 19:59 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 20:15 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:41 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 12:34 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-19 14:35 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 16:24 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2025-04-19 16:36 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-19 15:22 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-19 20:55 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 13:55 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-20 00:52 +0300
                                                                                                                Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 13:00 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-20 14:53 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-20 17:34 +0300
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2025-04-20 16:25 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-20 19:01 +0300
                                                                                                                        Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 18:10 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-20 18:07 +0200
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                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2025-05-13 14:05 -0700
                              Re: do { quit; } else { } Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-14 11:31 +0200
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#393404

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2025-05-14 11:07 +0200
Message-ID<1001mh3$2drv1$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#393392
On 14/05/2025 04:23, James Kuyper wrote:
> On 5/13/25 20:51, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>>> On 5/13/25 05:40, David Brown wrote:
> ...
>>>> Yes. Basically, most C programmers are not particularly aware of the
>>>> technical definitions of some of the terms in C standards where they
>>>> differ from common usage. The word "compatible" in English means that
>>>> the things in question can work together or fit together.
>>>
>>> That's pretty much what it means in C. Two C types are compatible in C
>>> if the C standard *guarantees* that they can work together - that you
>>> can use the types interchangeably. The tricky part is the definition of
>>> which pairs of types the C standard makes those guarantees for.
>>> The key point is that the undefined behavior of code which treats
>>> incompatible types as if they were compatible could also be that they
>>> work together, too, depending upon the implementation.
>>
>> I suggest that the phrase "work together" is too vague.
> 
> I was trying to match the wording of the text I was responding to. What
> I meant can be made far more precise: the C standard guarantees that two
> compatible types will work together, in the sense that every case where
> the C standard mandates that two types must be compatible in order for
> something to work, it will work for them.
> 

That's a tautology - the C standard guarantees that two compatible types 
will work together in situations where the C standard requires that the 
types are compatible.

I appreciate that it is difficult to give precise meanings to vague 
concepts, but I don't think that rephrasing helps!

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#393413

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-05-14 15:03 +0000
Message-ID<20250514080249.778@kylheku.com>
In reply to#393404
On 2025-05-14, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 14/05/2025 04:23, James Kuyper wrote:
>> On 5/13/25 20:51, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>>>> On 5/13/25 05:40, David Brown wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> Yes. Basically, most C programmers are not particularly aware of the
>>>>> technical definitions of some of the terms in C standards where they
>>>>> differ from common usage. The word "compatible" in English means that
>>>>> the things in question can work together or fit together.
>>>>
>>>> That's pretty much what it means in C. Two C types are compatible in C
>>>> if the C standard *guarantees* that they can work together - that you
>>>> can use the types interchangeably. The tricky part is the definition of
>>>> which pairs of types the C standard makes those guarantees for.
>>>> The key point is that the undefined behavior of code which treats
>>>> incompatible types as if they were compatible could also be that they
>>>> work together, too, depending upon the implementation.
>>>
>>> I suggest that the phrase "work together" is too vague.
>> 
>> I was trying to match the wording of the text I was responding to. What
>> I meant can be made far more precise: the C standard guarantees that two
>> compatible types will work together, in the sense that every case where
>> the C standard mandates that two types must be compatible in order for
>> something to work, it will work for them.
>> 
>
> That's a tautology - the C standard guarantees that two compatible types 
> will work together in situations where the C standard requires that the 
> types are compatible.

Moreover, signed and unsigned char work together, yet are incompatible.

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#393415

FromJames Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>
Date2025-05-14 23:17 -0400
Message-ID<1003mcr$2uarc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#393404
On 5/14/25 05:07, David Brown wrote:
> On 14/05/2025 04:23, James Kuyper wrote:
...
>> I was trying to match the wording of the text I was responding to. What
>> I meant can be made far more precise: the C standard guarantees that two
>> compatible types will work together, in the sense that every case where
>> the C standard mandates that two types must be compatible in order for
>> something to work, it will work for them.
>>
>
> That's a tautology - the C standard guarantees that two compatible
> types will work together in situations where the C standard requires
> that the types are compatible.

It's not a tautology, it's a recipe for generating a much longer and
more detailed specification by searching for relevant clauses from the
standard and extracting the relevant words from those sections, which I
had no particular desire to generate. My point was that it could be
generated, and would, when generated constitute a definition of what
"work together" means in this context.

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#393406

FromDavid Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
Date2025-05-14 11:22 +0200
Message-ID<1001ncr$2drv1$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#393389
On 14/05/2025 02:51, Keith Thompson wrote:
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
>> On 5/13/25 05:40, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 12/05/2025 22:25, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> ...
>>>> I think that a lot of C programmers misunderstand what "compatible
>>>> types" means. Many seem to think that two types are compatible if
>>>> they have the same representation and can be assigned without a cast.
>>>
>>> Yes. Basically, most C programmers are not particularly aware of the
>>> technical definitions of some of the terms in C standards where they
>>> differ from common usage. The word "compatible" in English means that
>>> the things in question can work together or fit together.
>>
>> That's pretty much what it means in C. Two C types are compatible in C
>> if the C standard *guarantees* that they can work together - that you
>> can use the types interchangeably. The tricky part is the definition of
>> which pairs of types the C standard makes those guarantees for.
>> The key point is that the undefined behavior of code which treats
>> incompatible types as if they were compatible could also be that they
>> work together, too, depending upon the implementation.
> 
> I suggest that the phrase "work together" is too vague.  It's
> perfectly reasonable to say that two types that can be assigned to
> each other without casts can "work together", and I might even call
> them "compatible" if the standard didn't already define the term.
>

Yes, exactly.  If the C standard did not use the word "compatible", then 
programmers might consider two types to be "compatible" for a whole 
range of situations.  That could include "can be assigned to each 
other", "can be assigned, possibly with casts", "can be converted back 
and forth to get back the original value", "can be mixed with each 
other's pointer types", "can be used to access each other", "can be used 
in the same code", and no doubt many others.

So the term "compatible types" in C does not mean the same as it does in 
English, nor does it mean "types that work together" - precisely because 
those phrases in English are much vaguer and more general, and can mean 
different things to different people.

> To a first approximation, two types are compatible if they're the
> same type.  The standard's section on compatible types points to
> additional rules for some cases.  IMHO the English word "compatible"
> suggests a much looser relationship, but we're stuck with the
> standard's terminology (and I'm not sure what would be better).
> 

I think the solution for this kind of thing would be hyphenated terms - 
"pointer-compatible", "assignment-compatible", and the like.  That 
would, IMHO, make it a clearer and there would be no risk of mixup 
between normal English language usage and technical terms.  (For some 
technical terms, made-up works like "lvalue" are appropriate, but not in 
this case I think.)


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#393390

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-05-13 18:15 -0700
Message-ID<86ikm4vvq2.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#393388
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:

> On 5/13/25 05:40, David Brown wrote:
>
>> On 12/05/2025 22:25, Keith Thompson wrote:
>
> ...
>
>>> I think that a lot of C programmers misunderstand what "compatible
>>> types" means.  Many seem to think that two types are compatible if
>>> they have the same representation and can be assigned without a cast.
>>
>> Yes.  Basically, most C programmers are not particularly aware of the
>> technical definitions of some of the terms in C standards where they
>> differ from common usage.  The word "compatible" in English means that
>> the things in question can work together or fit together.
>
> That's pretty much what it means in C. Two C types are compatible
> in C if the C standard *guarantees* that they can work together -
> that you can use the types interchangeably.  [...]

This description isn't exactly right, because the relationship of
being compatible is not an equivalence relation.  It is possible
that given types A, B, and C, A is compatible with B, and B is
compatible with C, but A is not compatible with C.

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#392404

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-11 11:20 -0700
Message-ID<87mscmsgov.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#392371
Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> writes:
> On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 17:59:15 -0700
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> wrote:
>> An understanding of what "compatible types" means. 
>
> Bart didn't say that types are compatible or non-compatible.
> He said that they are 'compatible enough'. That is not terminology of C
> Standard, but terminology of his own. And he seems to understand it.
>
> In my own translation, 'compatible enough' means that when these structs
> are accessed then any sane or even semi-sane compiler will generate code
> that will have the same effect as in case of access through structures
> with literally identical declarations.

Your speculation about what Bart meant is, I think, likely to be
correct.  If it is, he's talking about types having the same
representation.

That's not what "compatibility" means.  Calling types "compatible
enough" when they merely have the same representation is misleading.

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#393189

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-05-05 16:12 -0700
Message-ID<86o6w64ppv.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#392314
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
> [...]
>
>> Someone, not anyone but the all-knowing Tim, said:  "and those types
>> are not compatible, because the two struct tags are different."
>>
>> Do you agree with that?  Or is there something more to making two types
>> be incompatible?
>
> I don't recall the exact discussion and I wouldn't try to speak
> for Tim, but I suspect he was saying that the fact that the two
> struct tags are different is enough to know that the types are
> not compatible.  [...]

Considering the circumstances, rather than focusing on what I
(may have) meant, it seems better to focus on what is true,
whether I meant it or not.

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#393191

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-05-05 16:36 -0700
Message-ID<87v7qefx4r.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#393189
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>> [...]
>>
>>> Someone, not anyone but the all-knowing Tim, said:  "and those types
>>> are not compatible, because the two struct tags are different."
>>>
>>> Do you agree with that?  Or is there something more to making two types
>>> be incompatible?
>>
>> I don't recall the exact discussion and I wouldn't try to speak
>> for Tim, but I suspect he was saying that the fact that the two
>> struct tags are different is enough to know that the types are
>> not compatible.  [...]
>
> Considering the circumstances, rather than focusing on what I
> (may have) meant, it seems better to focus on what is true,
> whether I meant it or not.

Feel free to do so, rather than resurrecting a post from nearly a
month ago to criticize me for what I chose to focus on and adding
nothing to the actual discussion.

The discussion died out weeks ago.  Why would you resurrect it?

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#393193

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-05-05 17:01 -0700
Message-ID<86bjs64nfr.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#393191
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> Someone, not anyone but the all-knowing Tim, said:  "and those types
>>>> are not compatible, because the two struct tags are different."
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with that?  Or is there something more to making two types
>>>> be incompatible?
>>>
>>> I don't recall the exact discussion and I wouldn't try to speak
>>> for Tim, but I suspect he was saying that the fact that the two
>>> struct tags are different is enough to know that the types are
>>> not compatible.  [...]
>>
>> Considering the circumstances, rather than focusing on what I
>> (may have) meant, it seems better to focus on what is true,
>> whether I meant it or not.
>
> Feel free to do so, rather than resurrecting a post from nearly a
> month ago to criticize me for what I chose to focus on

My comment wasn't meant as a criticism, but only a suggested
improvement.  I'm sorry if it came across differently.

Also the comment was not meant as a statement about you but about
the style of the posting.  It's about wording, not about you
personally.

> and adding nothing to the actual discussion.
>
> The discussion died out weeks ago.  Why would you resurrect it?

I had no intention of resurrecting a discussion.  I responded
because I had something to say.

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#392327

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-04-10 16:51 +0000
Message-ID<20250410092409.825@kylheku.com>
In reply to#392312
On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
> On 10/04/2025 01:20, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2025-04-09, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what your gripe is other than maybe I picked up on
>>> something you got wrong. The discussion was about two struct types like
>>> this:
>>>
>>>      typedef struct tag1 {...} T1;
>>>      typedef struct tag2 {...} T2;
>>>
>>> and whether T1 and T2 were compatible or not. You said:
>>>
>>> "and those types are not compatible, because the two struct tags are
>>> different."
>>>
>>> In this case the tags would be "tag1" and "tag2". I then said:
>>>
>>> "I get an incompatible error (from the example you snipped) even when I
>>> remove both struct tags."
>> 
>> When you remove the tag from a struct definition, the implementation
>> behaves as if it were implementing a unique tag which is different
>> from any other such tag, and any tag that can possibly be written
>> using textual syntax.
>> 
>> How did you implement tagless struct declarations in your compiler?
>> 
>>> That means removing "tag1" and "tag2" so the example above looks like this:
>>>
>>>      typedef struct {...} T1;
>>>      typedef struct {...} T2;
>>>
>>> Here, you can't say the struct tags are different, as they are not
>>> visible!
>> 
>> So if you close your eyes, two things that were different are now
>> no longer different, since they are invisible?
>> 
>> The tag is a property of the type, not of printed type declaration.
>
> Someone, not anyone but the all-knowing Tim, said: "and those types are 
> not compatible, because the two struct tags are different."

That is true. If we know that two struct types have tags obtained
from the source code declaration, and those tags are different,
they are necessarily incompatible types, regardless of whether
they are in the same translation unit or different ones.

> Do you agree with that? Or is there something more to making two types 
> be incompatible?

Tim: two fingerprints from the left hand index finger are from different
humans if they are different.

You: do you agree with this, or is there more that can make
two humans different?

Struct compatibility is determined by tag and content.

> My examples included ones where tags /were/ different; tags which were 
> identical (in nested scopes) and tags which were missing.

tags which are identical do not speak to the situation of tags not
being identical.

> My view is that even if type discrimination was 100% dependent on tags, 

Given the logical statement  P and Q  would you say that it its
truth is 50% dependent on P and 50% on Q?

I would say that it's 100% dependent on P, and 100% on Q. :)

> source code (either tags don't exist, or they appear identical).
>
>> A struct type has a tag. If the declaration doesn't show one,
>> that doesn't mean it doesn't have a tag.
>> 
>> If a "Simulation" object has a "gravity" member, do you conclude
>> that a given simulation has no gravity, because the constructor
>> omitted specifying it?
>> 
>>    Simulation s = new Simulation(windSpeed = 35.7)
>
> This is quite irrelevant, since 'gravity' will be defined somewhere in 
> the source code, but you are talking about some internal attribute that 
> may or may not be used by an implementation.

It's completely relevant to the problem of pretending that there is
no gravity just because it doesn't appear in the construction
syntax.

>
>>> As I concluded, your assertion about compatibility being based on tags
>>> being the same or not didn't seem right.)
>> 
>> Or, you know, you could stop caring about what someone wrote in
>> comp.lang.c, be they right or wrong, and ... look it up?
>
> Why don't you just tell me?

Because then you're still caring about what someone wrote in
comp.lang.c, which could be unreliable.

> In my C compiler, each type has a unique index which is what is compared 
> to see if two types are the same type. It has nothing to do with tags.

How can it not?

  struct tag;
  struct tag { ... };

these have to refer to the same type; how do you do that without tags?

>
> This C code:
>
>      struct     {int x;};
>      struct     {int x;};
>      struct Tag {int x;};
>      {struct Tag {int x;};}
>
> Produces these 4 distinct types, with indices 23-26:

This is correct; but if the defining body were omitted from the fourth
one, it would have to refer to the previous declaration upscope by tag
matching.

In separate lexical scopes, we can have structs that are completely
different (different shape) and have the same tag.

As far as different translation units go, there are rules. But most
implementations of C operate on faith: implementations see only
the type declarations in one translation unit being processed.
It is trusted that cross-translation-unit uses of types are compatible.

In most C implementations, there is /de facto/ structural compatibility
in that two structures in separate units can have different tags,
and different member names, used to alias the same object, will not
cause any problem. The ISO C rules are stricter. The tags have
to be the same as well as the names of corresponding struct members
that have names.

Additionally, there is this rule: two structs defined in separate
translation units, each without a tag, but otherwise the same
(same member names in same order, same types, alignment, ...)
are compatible! This is even though they would not be compatible
if they appeared in the same translation unit.
This is something that will Just Work in implementations that don't care
about tags across translation units.

Another rule, much more obvious, is that if a struct in one translation
unit is incomplete, and complete in another translation unit, and they
have the same tag, then they are compatible.  Obviously this is
exploited in every program that uses incomplete structs in header files
for opaque types.


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#392328

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2025-04-10 18:31 +0000
Message-ID<v8UJP.52200$j2D.50588@fx09.iad>
In reply to#392327
Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> writes:
>On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

>As far as different translation units go, there are rules. But most
>implementations of C operate on faith: implementations see only
>the type declarations in one translation unit being processed.
>It is trusted that cross-translation-unit uses of types are compatible.

And when they're not compatible, it can take _days_ to find the
bug.  I was once called in to debug a random SIGSEGV in a large
crypto application (generated X.509 site certificates for most of the
world at the time).   Turned out that different components of the
the application were linked against different versions of the crypto
library (a proprietary predecessor to openssl).

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#392333

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-04-10 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<20250410120954.337@kylheku.com>
In reply to#392328
On 2025-04-10, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> writes:
>>On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>
>>As far as different translation units go, there are rules. But most
>>implementations of C operate on faith: implementations see only
>>the type declarations in one translation unit being processed.
>>It is trusted that cross-translation-unit uses of types are compatible.
>
> And when they're not compatible, it can take _days_ to find the
> bug.  I was once called in to debug a random SIGSEGV in a large
> crypto application (generated X.509 site certificates for most of the
> world at the time).   Turned out that different components of the
> the application were linked against different versions of the crypto
> library (a proprietary predecessor to openssl).

OpenSSL's libcrypto libcrypto doesn't do any symbol versioning, allowing
old binary clients to link to the latest versions of its functions that
require different structures. It's completely bonkers.

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#392329

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2025-04-10 19:36 +0100
Message-ID<vt9334$3hhr8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#392327
On 10/04/2025 17:51, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:

>> Do you agree with that? Or is there something more to making two types
>> be incompatible?
> 
> Tim: two fingerprints from the left hand index finger are from different
> humans if they are different.
> 
> You: do you agree with this, or is there more that can make
> two humans different?
> 
> Struct compatibility is determined by tag and content.

This is more nuanced. There is two structs being the same type or not, 
which a compiler can determine if they are in the same translation unit; 
no need to analyse tags or anything to figure that out, it's either the 
exact same type or not.

And there is two structs in two translation units which have separate 
definitions, which the compiler cannot compare, and which have to be 
compatible for the program to be valid. But the compiler cannot check that.

The example was like this:

module A:     typedef struct point {float a; float b;} Point;

module B:     typedef float length;
               typedef struct _tag {length x, y;} vector;

David Brown said:  "The two types are entirely compatible."

I said:            "Are they?"

Tim Rentsch said:  "No, they are not."

So DB and TR are disagreeing, but everyone is ignoring the fact that one 
of them is likely wrong, and sending /me/ off to read the standard!

TR went on to say: "The type names 'Point' and 'vector' name two
distinct types, and those types are not compatible, because
the two struct tags are different."

That does rather sound like it is the tags that are the sole deciding 
factor, which is when I started doing experiments.

ATEOTD, to share such a type across two or more translation units, means 
each one seeing its own definition of it. Nothing stops you having 
somewhat different versions of it, as I had above, so this part has to 
be taken on trust. This was part of my broader point that sharing 
non-linkage named entities across modules in C was ad hoc.

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#392336

FromKaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Date2025-04-10 19:29 +0000
Message-ID<20250410121454.392@kylheku.com>
In reply to#392329
On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
> ATEOTD, to share such a type across two or more translation units, means 
> each one seeing its own definition of it. Nothing stops you having 
> somewhat different versions of it, as I had above, so this part has to 
> be taken on trust. This was part of my broader point that sharing 
> non-linkage named entities across modules in C was ad hoc.

Nothing stops you because struct types are de-facto non-linkage
entities in the toolchain technology that is in widespread use.

Nothing stops an implementation from recording, into object files, info
that can be used to implement stricter type checking among
translation units at link time.

Here is one possible implementation.

All file-scope struct/union types are compiled in some kind of
struct/union table in the object file.

Those struct/union types are included which have been used as follows,
either directly or via nesting:

- in a parameter type of an external linkage function;
- in the return type of an external linkage function; or
- in the type of an object declared with external linkage.

In the table we have entries, say, consisting of the tag and, say,
tag name and, say, a 32 bit hash of the structure shape, taken over
all the members: their names, types, alignment and everything else
that influences compatibility.

Then, when linking, we merge all of the struct/union tables together.
Whenever we see a tag that has a different 32 bit hash, that's a
conflict, and we report those two files with the different hashes as
conflicting on their definition of the type indicated by the tag name.

The diagnostic dcould be given in tabular form, e.g:

  error: 3 incompatible definitions of "struct foo" exist:

  1: foo.o foo-helper.o
  2: bar.o
  3: stack.o queue.o

The rules for which types are included in the tables allow uses
where the types are not depended upon to be compatible.

Two mdoules can have a different "struct foo { ... }" at file scope,
which they each only use locally: neither module passes an
instance of its foo to the other module where it is interpreted
as that module's foo.

These exchanges happen via the arguments of external functions,
via global variables and via function returns. That's why we
suspect those places.

The rules could give rise to false positives, like when the
foo module has helper functions that take "struct foo *" and
are not called from outside of the module, but the helpers have not been
declared static, and another module does the same thing, creating a
clash in the table entries.

That diagnostic would then be misleading; but it would still
indicate that something is not tidy in the program.

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#392347

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2025-04-11 00:02 +0100
Message-ID<vt9im1$1rdm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#392336
On 10/04/2025 20:29, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2025-04-10, bart <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>> ATEOTD, to share such a type across two or more translation units, means
>> each one seeing its own definition of it. Nothing stops you having
>> somewhat different versions of it, as I had above, so this part has to
>> be taken on trust. This was part of my broader point that sharing
>> non-linkage named entities across modules in C was ad hoc.
> 
> Nothing stops you because struct types are de-facto non-linkage
> entities in the toolchain technology that is in widespread use.
> 
> Nothing stops an implementation from recording, into object files, info
> that can be used to implement stricter type checking among
> translation units at link time.
> 
> Here is one possible implementation.
> 
> All file-scope struct/union types are compiled in some kind of
> struct/union table in the object file.
> 
> Those struct/union types are included which have been used as follows,
> either directly or via nesting:
> 
> - in a parameter type of an external linkage function;
> - in the return type of an external linkage function; or
> - in the type of an object declared with external linkage.
> 
> In the table we have entries, say, consisting of the tag and, say,
> tag name and, say, a 32 bit hash of the structure shape, taken over
> all the members: their names, types, alignment and everything else
> that influences compatibility.
> 
> Then, when linking, we merge all of the struct/union tables together.
> Whenever we see a tag that has a different 32 bit hash, that's a
> conflict, and we report those two files with the different hashes as
> conflicting on their definition of the type indicated by the tag name.
> 
> The diagnostic dcould be given in tabular form, e.g:
> 
>    error: 3 incompatible definitions of "struct foo" exist:
> 
>    1: foo.o foo-helper.o
>    2: bar.o
>    3: stack.o queue.o
> 
> The rules for which types are included in the tables allow uses
> where the types are not depended upon to be compatible.
> 
> Two mdoules can have a different "struct foo { ... }" at file scope,
> which they each only use locally: neither module passes an
> instance of its foo to the other module where it is interpreted
> as that module's foo.
> 
> These exchanges happen via the arguments of external functions,
> via global variables and via function returns. That's why we
> suspect those places.
> 
> The rules could give rise to false positives, like when the
> foo module has helper functions that take "struct foo *" and
> are not called from outside of the module, but the helpers have not been
> declared static, and another module does the same thing, creating a
> clash in the table entries.
> 
> That diagnostic would then be misleading; but it would still
> indicate that something is not tidy in the program.

That sounds quite ambitious, and lot of work for something that may or 
may detect type issues - at link time.

It involves a compiler infering the types that may be exported from a 
module, and writing it to a, presumably, standard format object file (I 
guess as some kind of extra global variable).

But then you want to get a linker to do the checking. Existing ones 
won't know anything about this.

If you're going to be doing heavyweight changes to an implementation, 
then it could worth think more deeply about what can be possible.

However this is going to be hamstrung by the language: non-linkage 
entities like macros, enumerations and types don't have any means to 
indicate that they are exported or imported. Especially macros which 
don't really exist after lexing, but which could be an essential part of 
some API.

Importing wouldn't actually be a thing at all; duplicates of the 
definitions that exist in the exporting modules must also exist in this 
translation unit.

I'm not entirely convinced by your scheme to detect candidates that 
might be exported, which is only for certain types anyway, and which 
ought to include function signatures. At present only function names are 
exported and imported.

(I'm aware of the C++ scheme that encodes signatures within function 
names; that sounds hacky. However that could conceivably be used to 
check passed struct types too.)

In short, I don't think it buys you enough for the effort. The schemes 
I'd be interested in would wrap or augment the language. They would 
provide error detection in the compiler. They would allow genuine 
sharing (a entity is defined in one place only).

Unless ... you've already implemented your proposal?

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#392354

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-04-10 18:52 -0700
Message-ID<86jz7rbh2z.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#392329
bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:

[... compatibility of struct types ...]

> The example was like this:
>
> module A:     typedef struct point {float a; float b;} Point;
>
> module B:     typedef float length;
>               typedef struct _tag {length x, y;} vector;
>
> David Brown said:  "The two types are entirely compatible."
>
> I said:            "Are they?"
>
> Tim Rentsch said:  "No, they are not."

I withdraw my earlier statement.  Please leave me out of any
future discussion of the subject.

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#392360

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-10 20:51 -0700
Message-ID<87o6x3tky6.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#392354
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>
> [... compatibility of struct types ...]
>
>> The example was like this:
>>
>> module A:     typedef struct point {float a; float b;} Point;
>>
>> module B:     typedef float length;
>>               typedef struct _tag {length x, y;} vector;
>>
>> David Brown said:  "The two types are entirely compatible."
>>
>> I said:            "Are they?"
>>
>> Tim Rentsch said:  "No, they are not."
>
> I withdraw my earlier statement.  Please leave me out of any
> future discussion of the subject.

Do you mean that your earlier statement was incorrect (i.e., that
the types are compatible), or do you merely wish to pretend you
never said anything without taking a position on whether they're
compatible, or do you refuse to say?

Don't worry, I'm not planning to start or participate in a
lengthy discussion on your statement (that never turns out well).
I'm inviting you to clarify if you choose to do so.  If you choose
not to reply to this, I'll resume my earlier stance of not caring.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#392364

FromTim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>
Date2025-04-10 22:55 -0700
Message-ID<86frifb5tx.fsf@linuxsc.com>
In reply to#392360
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:

> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>> [... compatibility of struct types ...]
>>
>>> The example was like this:
>>>
>>> module A:     typedef struct point {float a; float b;} Point;
>>>
>>> module B:     typedef float length;
>>>               typedef struct _tag {length x, y;} vector;
>>>
>>> David Brown said:  "The two types are entirely compatible."
>>>
>>> I said:            "Are they?"
>>>
>>> Tim Rentsch said:  "No, they are not."
>>
>> I withdraw my earlier statement.  Please leave me out of any
>> future discussion of the subject.
>
> Do you mean that your earlier statement was incorrect (i.e., that
> the types are compatible), or do you merely wish to pretend you
> never said anything without taking a position on whether they're
> compatible, or do you refuse to say?

I am specifically _not_ saying either that my earlier statement
was right or that my earlier statement was wrong.  My hope is
that henceforth people will act as though the statement never
entered the discussion.  Does that clarify the matter for you?

> Don't worry, I'm not planning to start or participate in a
> lengthy discussion on your statement (that never turns out well).
> I'm inviting you to clarify if you choose to do so.  [...]

I appreciate the invitation and have made an earnest effort
to accommodate it.

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#392365

FromKeith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>
Date2025-04-10 23:00 -0700
Message-ID<87a58nteyj.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com>
In reply to#392364
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
[...]
>>> I withdraw my earlier statement.  Please leave me out of any
>>> future discussion of the subject.
>>
>> Do you mean that your earlier statement was incorrect (i.e., that
>> the types are compatible), or do you merely wish to pretend you
>> never said anything without taking a position on whether they're
>> compatible, or do you refuse to say?
>
> I am specifically _not_ saying either that my earlier statement
> was right or that my earlier statement was wrong.  My hope is
> that henceforth people will act as though the statement never
> entered the discussion.  Does that clarify the matter for you?

That answers precisely what I was asking, thank you.

As often happens, I am mystified by your decision, but it is
unquestionably yours.

I'll try not to include you in any further discussion, but I do
not promise to try very hard.

>> Don't worry, I'm not planning to start or participate in a
>> lengthy discussion on your statement (that never turns out well).
>> I'm inviting you to clarify if you choose to do so.  [...]
>
> I appreciate the invitation and have made an earnest effort
> to accommodate it.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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#392370

Frombart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2025-04-11 12:14 +0100
Message-ID<vtatiu$1dp7m$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#392365
On 11/04/2025 07:00, Keith Thompson wrote:
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
>> Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> writes:
> [...]
>>>> I withdraw my earlier statement.  Please leave me out of any
>>>> future discussion of the subject.
>>>
>>> Do you mean that your earlier statement was incorrect (i.e., that
>>> the types are compatible), or do you merely wish to pretend you
>>> never said anything without taking a position on whether they're
>>> compatible, or do you refuse to say?
>>
>> I am specifically _not_ saying either that my earlier statement
>> was right or that my earlier statement was wrong.  My hope is
>> that henceforth people will act as though the statement never
>> entered the discussion.  Does that clarify the matter for you?
> 
> That answers precisely what I was asking, thank you.
> 
> As often happens, I am mystified by your decision, but it is
> unquestionably yours.
> 
> I'll try not to include you in any further discussion, but I do
> not promise to try very hard.
> 
>>> Don't worry, I'm not planning to start or participate in a
>>> lengthy discussion on your statement (that never turns out well).
>>> I'm inviting you to clarify if you choose to do so.  [...]
>>
>> I appreciate the invitation and have made an earnest effort
>> to accommodate it.
> 


I wonder if I could withdraw all MY statements in this thread, and be 
treated with an equal amount of civility?

No, I thought not.

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