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Re: Future of C

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Future of C
Date 2018-03-16 10:23 -0700
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supercat@casperkitty.com writes:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 6:05:38 PM UTC-5, Keith Thompson wrote:
>> supercat@casperkitty.com writes:
>> > Under the OPR, a low-quality but conforming implementation could bomb
>> > the stack in any circumstances where code might otherwise make a recursive
>> > call.  
>> 
>> Yes.  Do any implementations actually do that?  If so, name one.
>
> My point is that failure to support recursion in any meaningful way would
> not make an implementation non-conforming, if it were to pretend that it
> died on recursive calls because of a translation limit.

By "pretend", you mean "lie", right?

If an implementation can handle non-recursive calls to a depth of,
say, several hundred, but blows up on a single simple recursive call,
it can *claim* that it blows up because of a translation limit,
but such a claim would obviously be false.  I would not call such an
implementation conforming, any more than one that claims to support
"long long" but claims a translation limit that doesn't permit the
"long" keyword to appear more than once.

Fortunately, as far as I know, no implementation actually behaves this
way, so it's not an issue.  It's just a hypothetical example intended
to make a point that, in my opinion, is not particularly valid.

>> I suggest that the One Program Rule is intended to encourage useful
>> implementations, and that it has done that job successfully.  Compiler
>> implementers typically try not to impose fixed limits (for example,
>> depth of parenthesized expressions is limited by memory available during
>> parsing, not by the size of a fixed table in the compiler), and
>> conformance to the One Program Rule falls out as a consequence of that
>> design.  See the footnote under 5.2.1.4: "Implementations should avoid
>> imposing fixed translation limits whenever possible."
>
> I think "when *practical* would have made more sense than "whenever
> possible".  If it would be possible to use variable-sized data structures,
> but they'd run much slower than fixed-sized ones, I'd regard the fixed-
> sized ones as superior for tasks where they were sufficient.

I agree that "when practical" would be better, but I don't agree that
it matters.  Implementers want their implementations to be *useful*.
They're not going to make something with horrible performance for
the sake satisfying an interpretation of a non-normative footnote.

And again, this is purely hypothetical.  In most cases,
variable-sized data structures aren't going to be much slower than
fixed-size ones.  (Remember we're talking about compile-time data
structures, so the code doesn't have to run on an 8051.)

I'm less interested in how implementations *might* be affected by
edge cases like these than in how specific implementations *are*
affected.

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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  Re: Future of C Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2018-03-13 20:54 +0100
    Re: Future of C cprime.twitter@gmail.com - 2018-03-13 13:50 -0700
  Re: Future of C "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid> - 2018-03-15 22:05 -0700
  Re: Future of C Manfred <noname@invalid.add> - 2018-03-16 19:07 +0100
  Re: Future of C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 15:41 -0700
    Re: Future of C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 16:10 -0700
      Re: Future of C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-03-24 16:29 -0700
        Re: Future of C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 08:17 -0700
        Re: Future of C fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 08:38 -0700
      Re: Future of C Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-03-25 03:54 -0700
  Re: Future of C Marcus Johnson <bumblebritches57@gmail.com> - 2018-03-26 03:37 -0700

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