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Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News

From Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.forth, comp.lang.c
Subject Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News
Date 2016-03-13 18:23 -0700
Organization None to speak of
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Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> writes:
> Am Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:40:26 -0700 schrieb Keith Thompson:
>> Even if that were true (it isn't), that doesn't make C a "portable
>> assembler".  Other operating systems had been written in assembly
>> language.  Unix was written in something that was *not* assembly
>> language.
>> 
>> [...]
>
> Whatever, the most relevant answer here derives it from three statements 
> of the introduction of K&R's first edition:
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3040276/when-did-people-first-start-
> thinking-c-is-portable-assembler
>
> "C is a relatively "low level" language. This characterization is not 
> pejorative; it simply means that C deals with the same sort of objects 
> that most computers do, namely characters, numbers, and addresses.
> [ ... ]

Yes, C is a relatively low level language.  That doesn't make it an
assembler -- and the quotation from K&R1 doesn't say that it is one.

The relevant distinction, in my opinion, is that code written
in assembly language specifies a sequence of CPU instruction,
while code written in a higher level language such as C specifies
runtime behavior.

(I'm quite familiar with the history of C, BTW.)

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-13 12:27 +0000
  Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-03-13 13:50 +0000
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-13 19:52 +0000
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-03-13 16:08 -0400
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 13:40 -0700
        Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 00:41 +0000
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 18:23 -0700
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 02:59 +0000
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-13 20:29 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 22:44 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 16:23 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jan Coombs <jenfhaomndgfwutc@murmic.plus.com> - 2016-03-14 23:55 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 17:19 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-15 03:06 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-15 08:47 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Eric Sosman <esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid> - 2016-03-15 11:59 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-15 09:34 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-15 11:17 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 12:41 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-15 10:54 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-15 11:18 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 14:42 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-15 11:54 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 16:11 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 16:13 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-15 16:18 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-15 15:37 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-15 16:42 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-14 19:26 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-15 00:48 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 22:30 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2016-03-15 07:23 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-15 10:09 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2016-03-15 08:19 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-15 08:56 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-15 19:33 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 09:46 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-17 09:37 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 18:40 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-17 13:53 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-17 11:53 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-17 19:58 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> - 2016-03-17 18:37 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Albert van der Horst <albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> - 2016-03-18 14:36 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2016-03-18 08:14 -0700
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-14 09:17 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-14 14:14 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-14 14:26 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-14 14:46 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-15 10:39 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-15 10:38 +0100
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-15 07:47 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de> - 2016-03-14 22:56 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-14 20:00 -0500
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2016-03-15 11:22 +0100
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-14 00:43 -0700
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-03-14 08:06 +0000
            Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-14 14:01 -0700
              Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 14:55 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-14 15:17 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-03-14 22:40 +0000
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-03-14 20:12 -0400
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-14 16:17 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News supercat@casperkitty.com - 2016-03-14 23:28 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2016-03-15 00:05 -0700
                Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-03-15 08:29 +0000
          Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2016-03-14 22:38 +0000
      Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2016-03-14 01:40 -0500
    Re: OT: One of Anton's papers makes Hacker News fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-03-15 09:24 -0700

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