Re: Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64))

From	Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64))
Date	2023-09-01 17:22 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<20230901100809.710@kylheku.com> (permalink)
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On 2023-09-01, Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 1 September 2023 at 00:32:03 UTC+1, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>
>> Building other people's projects can suck. It sucks not just for 
>> Bart but for the rest of us who don't mind the defaults and conventions. 
>> 
>> FOSS projects are written by volunteers. They don't owe you anything, 
>> including a build system that works how you would like. 
>> 
>> It's sad that people do counterproductive things to their programs, like 
>> vandalize their build systems with Autoconf, just because that's what 
>> others have done and they read about it in some blog or tutorial. 
>> 
> Bart's basic complaint is right.

It is off topic and misdirected, though.

> It's too hard to build many projects, and

That's the fault of those projects, whose maintainers don't read this
newsgroup, and wouldn't change anything if they did.

So the complaining is completely useless.

It's like joining a cooking club, to complain about restaurant prices,
or the design of mixers and spatulas.

Probably a few regulars here work on some open source projects that
Bart might find hard to build.

Without a

- comphrehensive, realistic proposal;

- accompanied by a patch;

- that works on all supported platforms;

- and can be easily extended to new platforms;

- and is demonstrably better than the current system;

I wouldn't lift a finger. Fixing a build system is just risk that's
not even in the program. Breaking builds will make your program look
immature; possibly a deal breaker for a prospective user.

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  Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-29 22:01 +0100
    Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-29 20:00 -0700
      Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 00:25 -0700
        Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 01:35 -0700
      Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-30 11:38 +0100
        Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 07:06 -0700
          Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-30 15:53 +0100
            Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 12:46 -0700
              Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-30 22:59 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 15:54 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 00:17 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 16:30 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 11:58 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 05:32 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 14:45 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 07:43 -0700
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 08:38 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 12:56 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-31 22:09 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 10:12 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 23:53 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-31 14:39 +0000
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-31 14:36 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 15:30 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 16:17 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-08-31 19:36 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 20:26 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 13:17 -0700
                Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64)) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-08-31 21:43 +0000
                Re: Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64)) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-31 23:31 +0000
                Re: Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64)) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 21:36 -0700
                Re: Verbosity in command output (Was: bart again (UCX64)) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 17:22 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 23:07 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 15:32 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-31 22:05 +0000
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 23:18 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-08-31 23:03 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 16:46 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 01:44 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 18:09 -0700
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 18:14 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 01:38 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 02:40 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 01:29 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 20:28 -0700
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 12:01 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 13:20 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 13:08 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 13:39 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 15:29 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 14:32 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 18:14 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 19:01 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 18:53 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-01 14:53 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 15:57 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-01 19:07 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 19:27 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 18:55 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 21:27 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 20:46 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 22:29 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 22:19 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-03 13:56 +0100
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-03 16:05 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 03:17 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 10:34 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 03:07 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 11:43 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 04:21 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 17:16 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 18:33 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-05 01:33 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-04 15:27 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 17:18 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-04 16:26 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 19:33 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-04 19:17 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 20:48 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 21:25 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-04 21:56 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-05 01:34 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 21:06 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 13:09 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 16:04 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-05 00:52 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 17:16 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-05 15:33 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-05 14:55 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bobby Moore <bobbymoore018@gmail.com> - 2023-09-05 08:30 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-05 17:31 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-05 18:06 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-05 17:54 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-05 20:10 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-05 13:24 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 15:46 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-02 17:44 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-02 01:14 +0100
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-02 17:58 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-02 23:28 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 20:09 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-03 07:15 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 03:03 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-03 18:53 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 16:24 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 12:22 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 02:01 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 18:02 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 10:39 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-09-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 16:26 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-09-02 09:03 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 19:22 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2023-09-05 01:38 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2023-09-04 20:05 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-05 06:49 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-05 05:30 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-05 17:16 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-05 12:51 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 12:58 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-02 16:29 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 20:00 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 00:08 +0100
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-02 18:02 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-03 15:54 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 19:50 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-03 21:25 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 16:44 -0700
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 18:49 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 21:33 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 21:09 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 22:41 +0100
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                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 14:06 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-02 17:27 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 16:02 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 01:50 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-02 01:12 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 19:13 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 11:57 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-02 18:19 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 19:53 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-03 06:32 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 16:02 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-03 18:11 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 11:31 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 20:07 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-03 22:08 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 03:16 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-04 10:54 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 11:06 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-04 14:54 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-04 22:02 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-05 01:31 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-05 02:24 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 18:30 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-04 14:14 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-04 16:59 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 15:41 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-04 18:15 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-04 18:57 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-02 17:10 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 13:13 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-02 22:50 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 14:54 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 19:02 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-02 22:42 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 15:08 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 02:00 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 23:18 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 02:28 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-03 06:58 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 15:52 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-03 11:02 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 16:25 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2023-09-03 16:49 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 16:16 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-02 18:11 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-02 22:08 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 16:48 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-02 14:52 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 02:23 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 03:47 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-03 18:44 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2023-09-03 18:01 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-03 16:59 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-03 17:50 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 10:43 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 02:17 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 13:26 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 11:35 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 13:39 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 14:09 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 15:33 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 05:14 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 17:41 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2023-09-01 18:21 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-09-01 14:31 -0700
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-01 22:39 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-09-02 07:07 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-31 19:17 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-31 19:28 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 21:03 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2023-09-01 11:23 +0200
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-31 20:50 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Kaz Kylheku <864-117-4973@kylheku.com> - 2023-08-31 23:12 +0000
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-09-01 02:25 +0100
                Re: bart again (UCX64) Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2023-08-31 20:37 -0700
        Re: bart again (UCX64) Paul Edwards <mutazilah@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 07:51 -0700
          Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-30 16:09 +0100
            Re: bart again (UCX64) Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2023-08-30 20:17 +0100

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