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Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed

From cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed
Date 2026-05-22 14:57 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <10upivp$1fkbh$1@dont-email.me>, Bart  <bc@freeuk.com> wrote:
>This is the same difference between:
>
>     a = cond ? x : y;
>
>and:
>
>     if (cond) {
>         a = x;
>     } else {
>         a = y;
>     }
>
>If ?: is considered a convenient, clearer short-cut for the latter,

First, it's not, for reasons that have been explained to you but
that you are ignoring because you don't like them.

But beyond that, I don't think that's what it is "considered" to
be, at all. `?:` can be used in an expression; `if` cannot.

In fact, I find the ternary operator to be used rather
sparingly, even in the kind of code you posted above.

>then the same applies to the goto.

You have made it clear that you think that _should_ be true.
However, it is _not_ true.  A brief perusal of the standard
would show _how_ it is not true.  You may ask _why_ it is not
true, but I don't know that anyone here can answer that
definitively.  Your argument that C is somehow bad because of
_this_ does not follow.

> [snip]
>>  C is mostly a structured programming 
>> language - unstructured constructs like "goto" should be minimal, not 
>> encouraged.
>
>But when you do need to conditionally jump to L1 or L2, then ?: lets you 
>do that with only one 'goto', not two.

Actually it doesn't let you do that, because it's not allowed by
the language.  ;-}

>(I can do it with zero: (cond | L1 | L2); the 'goto' can be implied.)

Yikes.

>We all know you don't use it yourself, but I can list half a dozen 
>use-cases for 'goto'. Here are two:
>
>(1) For generated C code when transpiling from a higher level language. 
>Without 'goto' this would be near-impossible. (Not impossible, but hard 
>enough that it is easier to use another language.)
>
>(2) For porting code to C that already uses 'goto'.

Strawman.  No one said `goto` in C should be disallowed.

The above quote said it should be _discouraged_ and its use
_minimal_.  That doesn't mean it's not useful in some cases.

However, that's not support for standardizing the use of labels
you are advocating for so passionately.

	- Dan C.

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  Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-17 01:08 +0100
    Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-16 18:21 -0700
      Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-17 12:16 +0100
        Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 15:04 +0200
          Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 15:08 +0200
        Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-17 06:48 -0700
          Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2026-05-17 14:43 +0000
            Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-17 16:53 +0100
            Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 18:24 +0200
              Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-17 17:56 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 21:07 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 08:56 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-18 09:22 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 10:35 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-18 10:41 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-05-18 16:47 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 18:58 +0200
                Using "extra" blocks to declare local variables (Was: switch/extension for see below strongly needed) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-19 05:48 +0000
                Re: Using "extra" blocks to declare local variables (Was: switch/extension for see below strongly needed) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 08:18 +0200
                Re: Using "extra" blocks to declare local variables (Was: switch/extension for see below strongly needed) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-19 14:04 +0000
                Re: Using "extra" blocks to declare local variables (Was: switch/extension for see below strongly needed) Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-22 23:44 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-18 18:13 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-18 18:37 +0000
                You are not allowed to use "the S word" in this ng. (Was: switch/extension for see below strongly needed) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-19 05:49 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 18:35 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 21:24 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 21:48 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 14:23 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-19 06:58 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 11:55 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-05-19 12:15 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 12:48 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 14:23 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 14:08 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 15:40 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 16:41 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 17:07 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 17:23 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 17:58 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 18:31 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 18:38 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 18:54 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 17:44 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 18:59 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 17:31 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 18:48 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 18:47 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 21:58 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-19 22:16 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-20 08:59 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-20 14:20 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-20 16:22 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-20 16:41 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-20 19:51 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-20 21:14 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-21 08:45 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 12:56 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-21 14:55 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 18:26 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-21 21:23 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 20:59 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-21 21:35 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 09:31 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 06:52 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 09:34 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 11:43 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-22 12:13 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 14:16 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-22 17:32 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 20:27 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-23 15:30 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 17:59 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 07:56 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 11:41 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 13:31 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 13:42 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 15:11 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-22 14:57 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-22 16:16 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-22 17:43 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-22 21:03 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-22 22:02 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-25 07:39 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 17:53 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 07:51 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 10:58 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 07:33 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-24 02:48 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-24 10:13 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-24 12:30 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-24 13:39 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed tTh <tth@none.invalid> - 2026-05-24 22:09 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-24 21:48 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-24 22:04 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-25 10:34 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 11:45 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 15:08 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 14:31 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-21 19:37 +0300
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 18:38 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-21 13:54 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 20:09 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:31 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-21 19:41 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 05:23 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-22 21:38 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-22 23:17 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-23 00:04 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 09:35 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 03:59 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-21 13:48 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:23 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 23:47 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 17:24 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 01:51 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-22 14:04 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 16:16 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 17:47 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-22 17:35 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-22 20:57 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 00:24 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-23 11:46 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 11:31 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-23 13:51 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 13:07 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 14:35 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 14:38 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-23 20:46 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-23 13:55 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 05:58 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 21:21 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-22 07:17 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-22 10:49 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-23 05:49 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-22 18:37 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-21 19:49 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-21 17:27 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-23 14:21 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-23 20:32 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-23 14:19 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-23 14:03 -0700
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                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-24 11:00 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-05-24 04:15 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-20 10:40 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 16:52 -0700
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                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 06:38 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 02:45 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 02:31 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-21 10:16 +0200
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                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-20 11:55 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 02:30 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 02:21 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 18:51 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-05-21 11:46 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 14:56 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-21 15:12 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 16:47 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-05-21 19:27 +0300
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 20:03 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 19:42 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-21 19:46 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-21 20:08 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 14:34 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 15:01 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 15:15 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-20 09:24 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-20 03:26 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 13:29 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 16:46 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-05-19 13:56 +0000
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 14:27 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-19 12:35 -0400
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 11:57 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 13:57 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 14:18 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 16:07 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 14:12 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-18 07:17 +0000
            Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-17 23:30 +0000
              Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 09:02 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-18 09:38 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 10:50 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 10:00 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 16:31 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 09:18 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-19 10:00 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-19 10:34 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-05-19 14:19 -0700
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2026-05-20 04:09 +0200
            Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2026-05-19 11:43 -0400
        Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-18 01:22 +0000
          Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 11:23 +0100
            Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-05-18 11:07 +0000
              Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 14:10 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 15:01 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 14:33 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 16:39 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 16:12 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 17:35 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 16:59 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 16:25 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 17:50 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 18:21 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 17:29 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 17:04 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-18 16:31 +0100
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 18:12 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 18:24 +0200
                Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-18 14:40 -0700
    Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 14:57 +0200
      Re: switch/extension for see below strongly needed fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 16:06 +0200
  Re: multipass Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-05-17 05:50 +0000
    Re: multipass Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2026-05-17 11:26 +0100
      Re: multipass David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-05-18 09:08 +0200
    Re: multipass Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2026-05-17 17:31 +0200
    Re: multipass makendo <makendo@makendo.invalid> - 2026-05-24 01:14 +0800

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