Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET

From	Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.lang.vb, alt.comp.lang.visualbasic, comp.lang.basic.misc, comp.lang.basic.visual.misc, microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb, microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.upgrade
Subject	Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET
Date	2012-01-12 09:34 -0700
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Schmidt expressed precisely :
> Am 10.01.2012 18:14, schrieb Tom Shelton:
>
>> ...  but, .net is not dead.
>
> It's now in the same way "not dead", as VB6 is...
> Welcome to the club!
>

VB6 has been deprecated - .NET has not.  It is still being actively 
developed.  New capabilities, new technologies being added, and new 
versions being produced.  So, I fail to see how .NET is anything like 
VB6.  Sure, there will be some changes comming.  It's 10 year old tech 
- of course it's going to change, and I expect at some point it will be 
deprecated...

> Really funny, that we are back now, to the combination
> of 'C++ and COM' as the only recommended way to develop
> serious and new "native Desktop-Apps" (because any other
> (MS-)tools cannot be considered "future-proof" or
> "safe with regards to line-of-code-investments").
>

What I want to know is where you got that C++ and COM is the only 
recommended way to develop metro apps.  Have you even loaded VS11?  I 
guarentee you that VB and C# are there.

> IIRC we had this C++/COM combination already some 15 years ago,
> followed up by VB5/6-RAD to "develop COM-Apps even faster".
> So VB6 is yet a good tool, working "directly on top" of
> the current "state of the art tech".

I think it's more like C++/WinRT - COM is part of winrt, but asfict 
it's not out in the forefront.  Just like COM is part of .NET - but, 
it's pretty much invisible for the most part.

> That much to selling us .NET as "technologic innovation"
> and urging us "to move on".
> Seems that the serious code-bases will always be C/C++ (as the
> best compromise, to abstract a language from the hardware).
>
> All the rest on top of it is (at least in MS' Book)
> apparently considered "throw-away software".
>
> The invention of COM, as a kind of objectoriented,
> (class-hosting and selfdescribing) library-format
> seems at least a well-surviving idea. As was VB-classic,
> as a glue-language for COMponents as well. It does
> its job even today, and will do so also on Win8.
>
> Aside from, that the new RAD-kid on the "blog" is now
> apparently the HTML/JS combination (and accompanying new
> IDEs, to "glue stuff together this way", including
> automatic uploads into the great new world of App-Stores).
>
> Let's see, how this works out - and what VB6/COM-based
> Apps on the Win8-Desktop are good for in the long run.
>
> Olaf

You are living in some sort of dream world, where all tech is good 
forever.  Doesn't happen.  And, I seriously don't see how my .net code 
base is in anyway threatend going forward at this time.  Might have to 
do some new UI's - but, since all of my real code is in libraries, I 
really don't see this as a huge deal.

-- 
Tom Shelton

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  Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-01-09 20:29 -0700
    Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-01-10 09:22 -0500
      Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-10 10:14 -0700
        Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-01-10 17:04 -0500
        Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Schmidt <sss@online.de> - 2012-01-11 21:02 +0100
          Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-12 15:33 +0100
          Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-12 09:34 -0700
            Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Schmidt <sss@online.de> - 2012-01-13 20:17 +0100
              Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-13 13:22 -0700
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-01-13 16:07 -0500
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tom Shelton <tom_shelton@comcast.invalid> - 2012-01-13 14:14 -0700
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2012-01-13 20:58 -0500
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Tony Toews <ttoews@telusplanet.net> - 2012-01-19 19:10 -0700
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Schmidt <sss@online.de> - 2012-01-14 00:12 +0100
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET "Henning" <computer_hero@coldmail.com> - 2012-01-14 00:24 +0100
                Re: Upgrading older VB programs (sans Project Files) to VB.NET Schmidt <sss@online.de> - 2012-01-14 00:58 +0100

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