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Tonights Tradeoff

Started byRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
First post2024-09-06 22:27 -0400
Last post2025-11-13 07:24 +0000
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  Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-06 22:27 -0400
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-07 14:41 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-07 23:22 -0400
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-08 18:06 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-09 23:59 -0400
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 02:00 -0500
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 10:58 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-10 16:07 -0500
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 09:54 -0400
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2024-09-11 08:48 -0700
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:32 +0000
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 23:37 -0400
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-12 16:46 +0000
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 15:28 -0400
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-12 20:46 +0000
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2024-09-13 11:08 -0400
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-13 17:09 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-11 18:44 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:30 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:28 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2024-09-12 05:37 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 03:21 -0500
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-12 06:21 -0400
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-11 21:27 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-15 03:13 -0400
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-16 01:45 -0400
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-24 16:03 -0400
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-24 20:38 +0000
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-26 04:13 -0400
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-09-26 14:11 +0000
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-09-27 08:58 -0400
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 00:04 -0400
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-04 06:19 +0000
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 11:54 -0400
                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-05 09:43 +0000
                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-09 06:44 -0400
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-10-09 14:43 +0000
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-09 16:19 +0000
                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-09 15:37 -0400
                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 14:10 -0500
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 05:38 -0400
                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-12 18:50 +0000
                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 15:14 -0500
                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 18:20 -0400
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-12 23:28 +0000
                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-13 02:46 -0400
                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - ATOM mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-13 18:19 +0000
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-12 20:36 -0500
                                              Page fetching cache controller Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-10-31 05:18 -0400
                                                Re: Page fetching cache controller mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-31 19:11 +0000
                                                Re: Q+ Fibonacci Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2024-11-05 23:30 -0500
                                                  Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 23:42 -0400
                                                    Re: register sets Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-04-16 23:26 -0700
                                                      Re: register sets scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-04-17 13:35 +0000
                                                        Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 14:24 -0400
                                                        Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-17 18:26 +0000
                                                          Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 21:56 -0400
                                                            Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-18 17:12 +0000
                                                              Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 02:44 -0400
                                                                Re: auto predicating branches Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 21:26 -0400
                                                                  Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-21 06:05 +0000
                                                                    Is an instruction on the critical path? (was: auto predicating branches) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-21 13:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-21 17:29 +0000
                                                                      Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-22 05:10 +0000
                                                                        Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-22 11:23 -0400
                                                                          Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-22 17:31 +0000
                                                                            Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-22 22:32 +0000
                                                                              Re: auto predicating branches Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-04-22 22:59 -0400
                                                                                Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-23 18:09 +0000
                                                                                  Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 10:10 -0400
                                                                                    Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-25 20:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 09:47 -0400
                                                                              Re: auto predicating branches anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-04-23 17:44 +0000
                                                                                Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-23 21:34 +0000
                                                                                  Re: asynch register rename Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 23:31 -0400
                                                                                    Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 07:36 -0400
                                                                                      Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-27 20:53 +0000
                                                                                        Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 22:32 -0400
                                                                                          Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-28 10:06 -0400
                                                                                            Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-28 10:50 -0400
                                                                                            Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 22:35 -0400
                                                                                              Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-29 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 01:21 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: fractional PCs Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-04-30 18:09 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 19:00 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-02 11:18 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 17:03 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: fractional PCs EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-02 13:22 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 20:01 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: millicode, extracode, fractional PCs John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-05-02 17:26 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: millicode, extracode, fractional PCs moi <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 20:00 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-30 19:04 +0000
                                                                                          Re: fractional PCs mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-28 22:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: fractional PCs Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 22:00 -0400
                                                                                              Re: control co-processor Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 00:40 -0400
                                                                                                Re: control co-processor Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-05 03:01 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: control co-processor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 13:46 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: control co-processor Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-05 10:02 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: control co-processor scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-05-05 16:19 +0000
                                                                                                        Scan chains (was: control co-processor) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-06 23:12 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Scan chains (was: control co-processor) Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2025-05-06 21:08 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Scan chains Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-07 10:58 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-07 16:57 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Scan chains Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-05-07 15:03 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-08 01:04 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Scan chains mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:21 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-06 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: control co-processor EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-05-06 19:58 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-05-07 16:44 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: control co-processor mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:09 +0000
                                                                                Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-25 13:19 -0400
                                                                            Re: auto predicating branches EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-04-24 08:54 -0400
                                                                        Re: auto predicating branches mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-04-22 16:45 +0000
                                                        Re: register sets John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-15 04:56 +0000
                                                          Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:16 +0000
                                                            Re: register sets Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-07-19 08:18 -0400
                                                              Re: register sets anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-07-19 16:37 +0000
                                                                Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-19 20:02 +0000
                                                    Re: register sets John Savard <quadibloc@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-15 04:49 +0000
                                                      Re: register sets scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-07-15 14:10 +0000
                                                      Re: register sets mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2025-07-15 17:14 +0000
                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Carry and Overflow EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2024-10-15 09:49 -0400
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2024-10-13 16:43 +0000
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2024-10-04 12:28 -0500
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Background Execution Buffers mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) - 2024-10-05 23:02 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 23:52 -0400
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 00:14 -0700
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:41 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:50 -0400
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 13:04 -0500
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-29 17:44 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 11:29 -0700
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-29 22:31 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:10 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 12:29 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-30 16:46 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-30 23:39 +0200
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-30 22:19 +0000
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-31 00:57 +0200
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-10-31 14:48 +0000
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 13:21 -0500
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-31 14:32 -0500
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 02:21 -0600
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 10:06 -0500
                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 14:58 -0600
                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 16:56 -0500
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 17:21 -0600
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-10-31 21:12 +0100
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:00 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-01 19:18 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 04:29 -0500
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-10-29 13:05 -0700
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 21:52 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 15:58 -0500
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:26 -0400
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:48 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-29 18:15 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 14:02 -0500
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:01 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-30 07:13 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-10-30 13:53 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-10-30 17:58 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 22:06 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:33 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 18:20 -0400
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:09 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-10-31 21:09 +0100
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-01 18:19 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-01 21:08 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 11:36 +0100
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-02 15:56 +0200
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 16:09 +0100
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-02 18:14 +0200
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-02 20:19 +0100
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-03 15:22 +0000
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-03 11:53 -0600
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-03 23:04 +0200
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 15:19 +0000
                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 17:41 +0200
                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-04 17:12 +0000
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:16 +0100
                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-04 07:47 -0800
                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 16:52 +0100
                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-04 18:54 +0200
                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 20:13 +0100
                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-04 21:07 +0000
                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 22:52 +0100
                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:18 +0200
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-05 15:42 +0100
                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-04 22:51 +0000
                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-04 23:43 -0600
                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-05 07:13 +0000
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 09:25 -0500
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:53 +0000
                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 17:44 +0000
                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-05 11:21 +0200
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 10:15 -0600
                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:06 +0000
                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-06 11:24 +0200
                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-06 13:11 -0600
                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 14:28 -0600
                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-07 22:57 +0000
                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 20:23 -0600
                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 22:18 -0500
                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 00:34 -0500
                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - PI as decimal float BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-08 01:30 -0600
                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 11:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-09 17:22 -0600
                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-10 02:12 +0000
                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 03:40 -0600
                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-10 06:30 +0000
                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-10 08:16 +0100
                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 13:54 -0600
                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 00:08 +0200
                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 21:25 -0600
                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 12:02 +0200
                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 04:44 -0600
                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-11 14:03 +0200
                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 21:34 -0600
                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-12 11:47 +0200
                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 09:24 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-13 12:18 +0200
                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 18:09 +0000
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 20:40 +0000
                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:50 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 22:13 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-01-26 20:00 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-28 02:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 17:51 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-28 04:47 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Interruptible instructions, was Tonights Tradeoff Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-01-28 07:34 -0800
                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-01-28 15:34 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-04 22:31 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-05 19:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-02-05 14:35 -0800
                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 18:22 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-09 19:33 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-09 21:18 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 15:51 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-10 17:53 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-10 14:13 -0500
                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-02-11 15:05 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-02-12 10:27 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-06 15:54 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 20:05 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 08:02 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 05:53 -0600
                                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-19 19:59 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-19 17:04 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-20 15:14 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-19 23:10 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 00:06 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-19 22:35 -0500
                                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 18:41 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:38 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:37 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 03:00 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 09:16 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: IA64 and VLIW, Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-22 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-02-22 11:51 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-22 20:14 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 23:08 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-02-23 01:32 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 06:55 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-23 21:22 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 and trace scheduling, Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-24 10:41 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-01 21:12 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-03 11:22 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-03 20:19 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-20 15:29 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-20 23:49 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 01:00 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 14:59 -0600
                                                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 22:56 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-24 17:32 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-02-22 21:52 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:27 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-27 19:57 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 16:14 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-27 17:01 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:57 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-02-28 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 12:18 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-01 19:19 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-01 20:24 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-01 07:55 -0800
                                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:41 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 05:38 -0500
                                                                                                    IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-21 16:18 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-21 20:28 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-22 13:17 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-22 17:05 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-23 08:06 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:03 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 10:46 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-24 12:30 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 18:26 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 08:17 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-23 13:44 +0200
                                                                                                                large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 09:50 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 17:23 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 17:30 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-24 22:22 +0200
                                                                                                                      Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-02-25 15:07 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: large binary array searches (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 18:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-23 21:33 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-23 10:14 -0800
                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-24 11:25 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-24 07:51 -0800
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-25 07:33 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-26 09:08 -0800
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-02-27 09:52 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-02-28 10:08 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-01 21:13 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:15 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 17:37 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 09:53 -0800
                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 19:01 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-03 11:35 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-03 21:55 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:44 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 15:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-04 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-06 14:06 -0600
                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 01:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-07 15:03 -0600
                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 00:28 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 05:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: Page size in root pointer MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Page size in root pointer BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:37 -0500
                                                                                                                                            Re: Page size in root pointer Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-09 04:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Page size in root pointer Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-09 03:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 12:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:37 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 15:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 18:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 21:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-08 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:34 -0500
                                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-15 16:09 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 01:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-17 21:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-17 23:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 20:38 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 21:00 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-18 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:51 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-18 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 19:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 15:48 -0400
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 21:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-17 18:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 15:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 04:49 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-20 14:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:04 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-20 17:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 18:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-20 16:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 14:39 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:31 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 13:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:05 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-20 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-20 15:09 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-21 15:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-21 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 02:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-22 15:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 16:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-22 13:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-22 16:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-23 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-20 21:19 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-21 18:52 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-21 18:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-22 00:54 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-08 10:56 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 12:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-08 19:43 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 17:06 -0500
                                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-08 17:18 -0400
                                                                                                                                                  multi-bit per cell RAM (was: IA-64) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-09 08:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 14:19 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 18:51 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2026-03-05 12:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-02-28 21:49 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-02 17:12 -0800
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-03 02:34 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-04 09:22 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 07:19 -0800
                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:03 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 20:25 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-04 19:38 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 21:17 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2026-03-04 11:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 23:48 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:21 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 08:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-08 13:15 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-08 12:36 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-04 21:07 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-04 23:35 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 17:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 12:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-07 13:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 19:19 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-07 19:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-07 21:21 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 11:07 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-05 14:47 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-06 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-05 08:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 12:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-05 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-05 14:18 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-05 19:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-05 18:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2026-03-06 19:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-07 15:53 -0800
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Andy Valencia <vandys@vsta.org> - 2026-03-06 11:34 -0800
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2026-03-07 16:03 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-09 22:42 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-12 21:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-14 16:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: GPU books? Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-15 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: GPU books? EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-16 12:06 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: GPU books? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 12:34 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: GPU books? MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-15 14:14 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-16 15:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-18 01:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-18 17:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-18 20:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 21:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2026-03-23 21:01 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-24 09:24 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-03-05 02:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-26 14:54 -0600
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-27 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-02-27 19:31 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-28 16:48 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 05:39 -0600
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-01 19:02 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-01 18:05 -0600
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-02 02:03 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-03 04:24 -0600
                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2026-03-08 17:53 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-08 21:15 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-08 16:43 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-09 13:14 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-09 19:30 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-10 13:04 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-10 18:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-11 12:14 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-11 21:37 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2026-03-12 10:56 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: IA-64 (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-12 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-21 23:51 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-01-28 19:19 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-01-29 07:13 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-01-29 12:30 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-02-01 18:01 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-14 14:18 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:32 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 14:34 -0600
                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 21:58 +0000
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 00:43 +0000
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-13 19:17 -0600
                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 03:59 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-19 12:53 -0600
                                                                                Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 07:18 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-14 18:48 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-14 22:38 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:22 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 01:28 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress (was: Tonights ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:45 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-15 15:36 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 18:04 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 14:34 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:41 +0000
                                                                                      Multi-precision multiplication (was: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-15 18:01 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-14 15:00 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-15 10:46 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-15 07:48 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-15 18:07 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-16 08:22 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-16 18:36 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 02:49 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-17 08:33 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 08:17 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-17 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-17 18:54 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-17 20:58 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-17 23:35 +0200
                                                                                                        SPARC and register renaming (was: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-18 15:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: SPARC and register renaming Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 17:24 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-18 08:58 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-17 18:45 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-17 16:58 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-17 18:41 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 13:22 -0600
                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 13:15 -0600
                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-18 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-18 22:25 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-20 07:33 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-25 00:40 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-26 07:53 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-26 12:17 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-26 18:08 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-26 21:00 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-18 20:26 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-19 01:47 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-19 07:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-20 08:05 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-23 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-23 16:51 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-23 17:25 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-23 20:46 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-23 22:40 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-28 20:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-28 23:06 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 09:29 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: Interrupt enable down-count Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-29 07:37 -0800
                                                                                                                          Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 13:28 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Interrupt enable down-count MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 19:23 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Interrupt enable down-count MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 19:05 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 15:42 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Interrupt enable down-count MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Interrupt enable down-count EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-29 16:10 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Interrupt enable down-count MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 22:26 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-29 17:45 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Interrupt enable down-count MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 23:14 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 02:17 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Interrupt enable down-count Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-30 10:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 06:29 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Interrupt enable down-count Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 06:41 -0500
                                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-29 23:37 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-30 14:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-30 15:47 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-30 16:39 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-30 18:59 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-30 22:11 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-06 00:40 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-06 07:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-06 05:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 17:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 17:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-06 18:33 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-06 18:55 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-07 03:29 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-24 18:03 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-30 15:18 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:33 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-30 22:38 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-30 22:17 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-01 00:12 +0000
                                                                                                                        Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-01 07:56 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-01 13:23 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-12-04 16:54 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-04 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-05 11:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-05 14:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-05 18:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2025-12-15 12:30 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-05 17:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-05 20:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-05 20:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 14:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 17:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 15:09 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-06 14:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-08 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 20:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 15:17 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-08 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 04:32 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 20:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-08 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 14:37 -0800
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 14:39 -0800
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-13 09:31 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-13 19:12 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 11:46 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-13 21:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 14:47 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 17:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 18:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-06 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-06 21:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 16:08 -0800
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-06 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 16:13 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 07:25 -0500
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:23 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-08 17:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 20:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 16:31 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 15:56 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-13 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 11:49 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-13 22:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: double alias register renaming Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-14 05:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: double alias register renaming MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-16 20:43 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-17 13:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-09 09:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-09 20:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-10 10:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-12-10 08:51 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-10 20:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-11 10:05 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-11 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 01:41 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 18:27 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-12 19:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-12 21:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-12 22:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                    Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 14:19 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 14:22 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-12 08:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-12-12 13:05 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-12 15:28 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2025-12-12 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: instruction ordering, was Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-12 21:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-11 23:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2025-12-12 08:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 15:02 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 15:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-11 15:00 -0800
                                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-12-09 13:55 -0800
                                                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-09 22:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-08 20:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-07 09:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-07 16:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-07 16:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 16:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-12-07 12:19 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 15:52 -0800
                                                                                                                                              Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 16:36 -0800
                                                                                                                                        Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-05 15:03 -0800
                                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-12-07 14:51 -0800
                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-07 17:48 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-12-01 14:07 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-01 23:03 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Memory ordering (Re: Multi-precision addition ...) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-01 22:50 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Unaligned Memory Access Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 07:10 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-12-02 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-12-02 19:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Unaligned Memory Access Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 21:20 -0500
                                                                                                                                Re: Unaligned Memory Access Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 18:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Hardware hardware interrupt Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 01:04 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Unaligned Memory Access quadi <quadibloc@ca.invalid> - 2026-03-09 03:36 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: Unaligned Memory Access Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2026-03-09 11:05 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Unaligned Memory Access John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-10 06:07 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Unaligned Memory Access "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 17:20 -0700
                                                                                                                                        Re: Unaligned Memory Access Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-13 07:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:14 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Unaligned Memory Access Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-03-14 14:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-03-14 19:35 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Unaligned Memory Access Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-14 16:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-18 23:02 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:20 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Float multiplies Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-21 16:58 -0400
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Float multiplies MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-22 16:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Float multiplies Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 01:31 -0400
                                                                                                                                                      Re: Float multiplies BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-23 04:44 -0500
                                                                                                                                          Re: Unaligned Memory Access anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-14 16:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Unaligned Memory Access Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-15 14:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-15 17:36 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Unaligned stores (was: Unaligned Memory Access) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2026-03-15 17:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: Unaligned Memory Access Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-16 15:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: Unaligned Memory Access Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2026-03-16 18:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-17 17:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Unaligned Memory Access BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-03-10 16:41 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-11 00:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: Unaligned Memory Access Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-11 16:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: Unaligned Memory Access "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-11 12:40 -0700
                                                                                                                                          Re: Unaligned Memory Access MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-11 21:40 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: Unaligned Memory Access scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-03-11 21:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2026-03-14 16:23 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: Unaligned Memory Access "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2026-03-16 12:38 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:16 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:15 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-20 07:55 +0000
                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-14 15:57 +0100
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-14 14:39 -0600
                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-13 19:04 +0000
                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-21 15:31 +0200
                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 13:36 -0600
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 22:09 -0500
                                                                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-22 04:54 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-22 12:45 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-22 14:29 -0600
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-22 18:50 +0200
                                                                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-16 19:47 +0200
                                                                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +0000
                                                                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-17 12:02 +0200
                                                                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - write port history Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-12-18 21:33 -0500
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 08:50 +0100
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-03 19:03 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 01:41 -0500
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:30 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-02 09:39 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-03 18:47 +0000
        branch splitting (was: Tonights Tradeoff) anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-04 07:50 +0000
          Re: branch splitting (was: Tonights Tradeoff) MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-04 19:15 +0000
            Re: branch splitting Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-04 22:44 +0100
              Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 00:44 +0000
              Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 01:00 -0600
                Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 01:38 -0600
                Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:43 +0000
                  Re: branch splitting Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-08 10:24 -0500
                    Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-09 19:20 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-05 06:49 +0000
                        Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-05 20:35 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-04-06 05:11 +0000
                            Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-04-06 16:24 +0000
                              Re: round mode register Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2026-04-07 22:53 -0400
                Re: branch splitting Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-16 16:14 -0500
                  Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-18 14:45 -0600
                    Re: branch splitting Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-23 17:17 -0500
                      Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2026-02-25 17:40 -0600
            Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-04 15:46 -0800
              Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 02:51 +0000
                Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-05 05:17 +0000
                  Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-05 06:44 +0000
                    Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-05 06:55 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-05 10:49 -0500
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-06 18:14 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 20:04 +0000
                            Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 10:32 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-06 16:24 -0500
                            Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 22:53 +0000
                              Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-06 20:10 -0500
                      Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-05 18:03 +0000
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-06 18:17 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 20:07 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 20:24 +0000
                            Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-07 06:55 +0000
                  Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-04 22:53 -0800
                    Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-06 08:46 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:37 +0200
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 08:08 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-06 07:57 -0800
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 10:09 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-07 08:26 -0800
                            Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 17:15 +0000
                              Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-07 10:45 -0800
                              Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-08 10:31 -0500
                                Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-08 18:13 +0000
                                  Re: branch splitting Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-08 21:47 +0200
                                  Re: branch splitting scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-09 17:06 +0000
                                    Re: PDP-8 history, branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-09 20:00 +0000
                                      Re: PDP-8 history, branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-09 21:14 +0000
                                      Re: PDP-8 history, branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-10 07:46 +0000
                                      Re: PDP-8 history, branch splitting scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-10 14:52 +0000
                                        Re: PDP-8 history, branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-10 18:53 +0000
                                  Re: branch splitting Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-10 08:27 +0100
                                Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-08 18:25 +0000
                                  Re: branch splitting Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-08 20:56 +0200
                                    Re: jumping around, branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-08 21:08 +0000
                                      Re: jumping around, branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-09 13:01 -0500
                                        Re: jumping around, branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-09 20:18 +0000
                                      Re: jumping around, branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-09 21:11 +0000
                                      Re: jumping around, branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-11 19:58 +0200
                                        Re: jumping around, branch splitting scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-11 18:48 +0000
                                        Re: indirect chains, jumping around, branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-11 21:10 +0000
                                          Re: indirect chains, jumping around, branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-11 16:06 -0800
                                  Re: branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-08 21:07 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:45 +0000
                        Re: label variables, was branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-06 22:09 +0000
                          Re: label variables, was branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 15:26 +0000
                            Re: label variables, was branch splitting Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-11-07 17:54 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 10:02 +0000
                        Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-08 18:04 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 19:32 +0000
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-08 18:37 +0000
                        Re: goto, was branch splitting John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-08 21:14 +0000
                  Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 02:01 -0600
                    Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:04 +0000
                  Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-05 17:26 +0200
                    Re: branch splitting BGB <cr88192@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 10:23 -0600
                      Re: branch splitting scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-05 17:22 +0000
                      Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:30 +0200
                        Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:28 +0000
                          Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-06 00:45 +0200
                            Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:28 +0000
                              Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-11 18:50 +0200
                                Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-11 14:23 -0500
                                  Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-11 20:44 +0000
                                    Re: branch splitting EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-11 21:16 -0500
                                      Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 08:42 +0000
                                        Re: branch splitting Bernd Linsel <bl1-thispartdoesnotbelonghere@gmx.com> - 2025-11-13 19:32 +0100
                                  Re: branch splitting antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-13 01:35 +0000
                                    Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-13 09:45 +0000
                                      Re: branch splitting antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-13 17:35 +0000
                                Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-11 19:46 +0000
                                  Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-11 15:55 -0800
                                    Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-12 00:31 +0000
                                      Re: branch splitting Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-11 17:18 -0800
                                        Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-12 21:56 +0200
                                          Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:25 +0000
                            Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-06 22:21 +0000
                    Re: branch splitting MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:24 +0000
                    Re: branch splitting Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-06 11:43 +0200
                      Re: branch splitting Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:11 +0200
                        Re: branch splitting Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-06 13:14 +0200
                        Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-07 08:06 +0000
                    Re: branch splitting anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-06 17:52 +0000
                Re: branch splitting Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-05 15:27 +0100
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 01:47 -0500
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 02:06 -0500
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 20:52 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 20:41 -0500
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff Paul Clayton <paaronclayton@gmail.com> - 2026-02-07 21:49 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-02-09 19:09 +0000
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-03 19:13 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 09:56 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-05 21:21 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 21:49 -0500
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:36 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-05 19:20 -0800
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:39 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-08 14:11 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-08 18:08 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-06 19:38 +0000
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-06 12:14 -0800
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-07 17:29 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-09 14:54 -0800
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-10 02:00 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> - 2025-11-09 20:03 -0800
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-06 21:59 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-11-12 06:20 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-12 08:01 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - constants / routing MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-12 19:22 +0000
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff / Fusing branch ops Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-06 07:44 -0500
    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - Cache-line constants Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 22:30 -0500
      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-10 21:56 -0500
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-11 19:30 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 21:42 -0500
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-23 03:20 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-22 23:16 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-22 23:36 -0500
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 07:04 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-23 20:13 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 23:58 -0500
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-24 20:00 +0000
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-25 21:08 -0500
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-26 20:57 +0000
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-26 22:16 +0000
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions "Brian G. Lucas" <bagel99@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 17:20 -0500
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-26 22:29 +0000
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-26 23:53 +0000
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-26 23:46 +0000
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2025-11-28 07:21 +0000
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:05 +0000
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-28 06:45 +0000
                          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-26 18:19 -0500
                            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-27 00:08 +0000
                              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-27 00:36 -0500
                                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:35 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions George Neuner <gneuner2@comcast.net> - 2025-11-27 00:44 -0500
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> - 2025-11-26 22:26 +0100
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-26 21:58 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-11-27 15:50 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-11-27 19:16 +0200
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-28 07:17 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-28 02:59 -0500
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-28 12:56 -0500
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:41 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-28 20:09 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-28 19:49 +0000
                  Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions kegs@provalid.com (Kent Dickey) - 2025-11-29 15:48 +0000
                    Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-29 19:11 +0000
                      Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> - 2025-11-29 15:08 -0500
                        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-29 22:07 +0000
        Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-11 21:18 +0000
          Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-11 21:46 -0500
            Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-12 07:19 +0000
              Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions MitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2025-11-12 20:27 +0000
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> - 2025-11-12 23:59 -0500
                Re: Tonights Tradeoff - NaN boxed precisions Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-11-13 07:24 +0000

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#114212 — Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2025-11-28 23:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress
Message-ID<2025Nov29.000645@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#114209
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>(Looking at your
>code, it also does not seem to be self-sufficient, at least the
>numerous SKIP4 statements require something else).

If you want to assemble the resulting .S file, it's assembled once
with

-DSKIP4= -Dgforth_engine2=gforth_engine

and once with

-DSKIP4=".skip 4"

(on Linux-GNU AMD64, the .skip assembler directive is autoconfigured
and may be different on other platforms).

>My assumption is that the control flow is confusing gcc.

My guess is the same.

>For this
>to be fixed, somebody with knowledge of the code would need to
>cut this down to something that still exhibits the behavior, and
>that can be reduced further with cvise (or delta, but cvise is
>usually much better).

Everything from

H_<name1>:

to the next

H_<name2>:

is one implementation of a VM instruction.  You can remove a machine
instructions and the references to the labels in the tables at the
start of gforth_engine(), and the thing should still compile, and
ideally the code for all the other VM instructions should be
unchanged.

In the extreme, you could remove everything but H_ten_u_slash_mod and
the code up to the next H_..., but my guess is that you need more VM
instruction implementations to produce the not-so-great code.

- anton
-- 
'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
  Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

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#114213 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-29 09:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gevvd$3eavl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114212
I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
are disabled then enabled again.

The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.

I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.

It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.

Tradeoffs…

I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.

Complex…

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#114214 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromStephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 07:37 -0800
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gf3vi$3g046$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114213
On 11/29/2025 6:29 AM, Robert Finch wrote:
> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
> delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
> because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
> guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
> are disabled then enabled again.
> 
> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
> committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
> allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
> flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
> progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> 
> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> 
> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
> would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
> instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
> larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> 
> Tradeoffs…
> 
> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
> around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
> minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> 
> Complex…

A simple alternative that I have seen is to have an instruction that 
enables interrupts and jumps to somewhere, probably either the 
interrupted code or the dispatcher that might do a full context switch. 
  The ISR would issue this instruction when it has saved everything that 
is necessary to handle the interrupt and thus could be interrupted 
again.  This minimized the time interrupts are locked out without the 
need for an arbitrary timer, etc.



-- 
  - Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

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#114216 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-29 13:28 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gfe1c$3k2t1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114214
On 2025-11-29 10:37 a.m., Stephen Fuld wrote:
> On 11/29/2025 6:29 AM, Robert Finch wrote:
>> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down- 
>> count delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
>> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being 
>> deferred because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the 
>> pipeline. I guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many 
>> cases where IRQs are disabled then enabled again.
>>
>> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not 
>> be committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU 
>> were allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a 
>> loop flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code 
>> instead of progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
>>
>> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
>> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
>>
>> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the 
>> CPU would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between 
>> fetching ISR instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the 
>> other hand, a larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
>>
>> Tradeoffs…
>>
>> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is 
>> looping around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be 
>> reset to the minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is 
>> executed.
>>
>> Complex…
> 
> A simple alternative that I have seen is to have an instruction that 
> enables interrupts and jumps to somewhere, probably either the 
> interrupted code or the dispatcher that might do a full context switch. 
>   The ISR would issue this instruction when it has saved everything that 
> is necessary to handle the interrupt and thus could be interrupted 
> again.  This minimized the time interrupts are locked out without the 
> need for an arbitrary timer, etc.
> 
> 
> 
That is a decent idea. A special jump and disable interrupts instruction 
to the next instruction might do it. The pipeline needs to be cleared of 
the external interrupt when interrupts are disabled, and the address 
reset. The issue then is that the interrupt gets lost, so it needs to be 
cached somewhere so that once interrupts are enabled again it can be 
processed. There could be multiple interrupts in the pipeline that need 
to be cached.

Seeing as the address needs to be reset, an explicit jump instruction 
may not be necessary. The IP of the interrupted instruction could be used.

I see now that a stack might be better than a FIFO as only a higher 
priority interrupt would be able to interrupt the lower one. Should they 
be processed in order of occurrence? Order of occurrence = FIFO, 
otherwise stack = FILO. Leave it to the user to decide? Out of order 
asynchronous interrupts probably are not a big deal. Hardware likely 
does not know what the order is, or care about it.

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#114219 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromMitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 19:23 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<1764444183-5857@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#114214
Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> posted:

> On 11/29/2025 6:29 AM, Robert Finch wrote:
> > I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
> > delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> > instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
> > because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
> > guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
> > are disabled then enabled again.
> > 
> > The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
> > committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
> > allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
> > flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
> > progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> > 
> > I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> > programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> > 
> > It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
> > would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
> > instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
> > larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> > 
> > Tradeoffs…
> > 
> > I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
> > around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
> > minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> > 
> > Complex…
> 
> A simple alternative that I have seen is to have an instruction that 
> enables interrupts and jumps to somewhere, probably either the 
> interrupted code or the dispatcher that might do a full context switch. 
>   The ISR would issue this instruction when it has saved everything that 
> is necessary to handle the interrupt and thus could be interrupted 
> again.  This minimized the time interrupts are locked out without the 
> need for an arbitrary timer, etc.

Another alternative is to allow ISRs to be interrupted by ISRs of higher
priority. All you need here is a clean and precise definition of priority
and when said priority gets associated with any given interrupt.

My 66000 goes so far as to never need to disable interrupts because all
interrupts of the same or lower priority are automatically disabled by
the priority of the current ISR/running-thread. That is, one arrives
at the ISR with interrupts enabled and in a reentrant state with the
priority given by the I/O MMU when device sent ISR message to MSI-X
queue.

If/when an ISR needs to be sure it is not interrupted, it can change
priority in 1 instruction to "highest" and have the system not allow
the I/O MMU to associate said "exclusive" priority with any device
interrupt. When ISR returns, priority reverts to priority at the time
the interrupt was taken. {No need to back down on priority} This only
requires that there are enough priorities to spare one exclusively to
the system.

EricP has argued that 8-I/O priority levels are enough. I argue that
64 priority levels are enough for {Guest OS, Host OS, HyperVisor}
to each have their own somewhat-coordinated structure of priorities.
AND further I argue that given one is designing a 64-bit machine,
that 64 priority levels are dé rigueur.
> 
>

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#114217 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromMitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 19:05 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<1764443100-5857@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#114213
Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:

> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
> delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
> because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
> guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
> are disabled then enabled again.
> 
> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
> committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
> allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
> flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
> progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.

The above is one of the reasons EricP supports the pipeline notion that
interrupts do NOT flush the pipe. Instead, the instruction in the pipe 
are allowed to retire (apace) and new instructions are inserted from
the interrupt service point. As long as the instructions "IN" the pipe
can deliver their results to their registers, and update µArchitectural
state they "own", there is no reason to flush--AND--no corresponding
reason to delay "taking" the interrupt.

At the µArchitectural level, you, the designer, see both the front
and the end of the pipeline, you can change what goes in the front
and allow what was already in the pipe to come out the back. This
requires dragging a small amount of information down the pipe, much
like multi-threaded CPUs. 
 
> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> 
> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
> would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
> instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
> larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> 
> Tradeoffs…
> 
> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
> around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
> minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> 
> Complex…
> 
Make the problem "go away". You will be happier in the end.

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#114221 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-29 15:42 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gflr5$3mmun$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114217
On 2025-11-29 2:05 p.m., MitchAlsup wrote:
> 
> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:
> 
>> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count
>> delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40
>> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred
>> because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I
>> guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs
>> are disabled then enabled again.
>>
>> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be
>> committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were
>> allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop
>> flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of
>> progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> 
> The above is one of the reasons EricP supports the pipeline notion that
> interrupts do NOT flush the pipe. Instead, the instruction in the pipe
> are allowed to retire (apace) and new instructions are inserted from
> the interrupt service point. 

That is how Qupls is working too. The issue is what happens when the 
instruction in the pipe before the ISR disables the interrupt. Then the 
ISR instructions need to be flushed.

As long as the instructions "IN" the pipe
> can deliver their results to their registers, and update µArchitectural
> state they "own", there is no reason to flush--AND--no corresponding
> reason to delay "taking" the interrupt.

That is the usual case for Qupls too when there is an interrupt.
> 
> At the µArchitectural level, you, the designer, see both the front
> and the end of the pipeline, you can change what goes in the front
> and allow what was already in the pipe to come out the back. This
> requires dragging a small amount of information down the pipe, much
> like multi-threaded CPUs.
> 
Yes, the IRQ info is being dragged down the pipe.

>> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be
>> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
>>
>> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU
>> would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR
>> instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a
>> larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
>>
>> Tradeoffs…
>>
>> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping
>> around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the
>> minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
>>
>> Complex…
>>
> Make the problem "go away". You will be happier in the end.

The interrupt mask is set at fetch time to disable lower priority 
interrupts. I suppose disabling of interrupts by the OS could simply be 
ignored. The interrupt could only be taken if it is a higher priority 
than the current level.

I had thought the OS might have good reason to disable interrupts. But 
maybe I am making things too complex.

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#114224 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromMitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 22:17 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<1764454656-5857@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#114221
Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:

> On 2025-11-29 2:05 p.m., MitchAlsup wrote:
> > 
> > Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:
> > 
> >> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count
> >> delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40
> >> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred
> >> because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I
> >> guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs
> >> are disabled then enabled again.
> >>
> >> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be
> >> committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were
> >> allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop
> >> flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of
> >> progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> > 
> > The above is one of the reasons EricP supports the pipeline notion that
> > interrupts do NOT flush the pipe. Instead, the instruction in the pipe
> > are allowed to retire (apace) and new instructions are inserted from
> > the interrupt service point. 
> 
> That is how Qupls is working too. The issue is what happens when the 
> instruction in the pipe before the ISR disables the interrupt. Then the 
> ISR instructions need to be flushed.

As a general rule of thumb:: an instruction is not "performed" until 
after it retires. {when you cannot undo its deeds}

Consider the case where you redirect the front of the pipe to an ISR and
an instruction already in the pipe raises an exception. Here, what I do
{and have done in the past} is to not retire instructions after the
exception, so the ISR is not delayed and IP ends up pointing at the 
excepting instruction.

Since you started ISR before you retired DI, you can treat DI as an
exception. {DI after ISR control transfer}. If, on the other hand,
you perform DI at the front of the pipe, you don't "accept" the ISR
until EI.
 
> > As long as the instructions "IN" the pipe
> > can deliver their results to their registers, and update µArchitectural
> > state they "own", there is no reason to flush--AND--no corresponding
> > reason to delay "taking" the interrupt.
> 
> That is the usual case for Qupls too when there is an interrupt.
> > 
> > At the µArchitectural level, you, the designer, see both the front
> > and the end of the pipeline, you can change what goes in the front
> > and allow what was already in the pipe to come out the back. This
> > requires dragging a small amount of information down the pipe, much
> > like multi-threaded CPUs.
> > 
> Yes, the IRQ info is being dragged down the pipe.
> 
> >> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be
> >> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> >>
> >> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU
> >> would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR
> >> instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a
> >> larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> >>
> >> Tradeoffs…
> >>
> >> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping
> >> around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the
> >> minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> >>
> >> Complex…
> >>
> > Make the problem "go away". You will be happier in the end.
> 
> The interrupt mask is set at fetch time to disable lower priority 
> interrupts. I suppose disabling of interrupts by the OS could simply be 
> ignored. The interrupt could only be taken if it is a higher priority 
> than the current level.
> 
> I had thought the OS might have good reason to disable interrupts. But 
> maybe I am making things too complex.
> 

The OS DOES have good reasons to DI "every once in a while", IIRC my
conversations with EricP, these are short sequences the OS needs
to be ATOMIC across all OS threads--and almost always without the 
possibility that the ATOMIC event fails {which can happen in user code}.

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#114222 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromEricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com>
Date2025-11-29 16:10 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<0kJWQ.81865$liu8.10473@fx17.iad>
In reply to#114213
Robert Finch wrote:
> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
> delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
> because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
> guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
> are disabled then enabled again.
> 
> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
> committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
> allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
> flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
> progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> 
> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> 
> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
> would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
> instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
> larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> 
> Tradeoffs…
> 
> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
> around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
> minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> 
> Complex…
> 

You are using this timer to predict the delay for draining the pipeline.
It would only take a read of a slow IO device register to exceed it.

I was thinking a simple and cheap way would be to use a variation of the
single-step mechanism. An interrupt request would cause Decode to emit a
special uOp with the single-step flag set and then stall, to allow the
pipeline to drain the old stream before accepting the interrupt and
redirecting Fetch to its handler. That way if there are and interrupt
enable or disable instructions, or branch mispredicts, or pending exceptions
in-flight they all are allowed to finish and the state to settle down.

Pipelining interrupt delivery looks possible but gets complicated and
expensive real quick.


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#114225 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromMitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 22:26 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<1764455181-5857@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#114222
EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> posted:

> Robert Finch wrote:
> > I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-count 
> > delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> > instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being deferred 
> > because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the pipeline. I 
> > guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many cases where IRQs 
> > are disabled then enabled again.
> > 
> > The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not be 
> > committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU were 
> > allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a loop 
> > flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code instead of 
> > progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> > 
> > I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> > programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> > 
> > It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the CPU 
> > would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between fetching ISR 
> > instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the other hand, a 
> > larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> > 
> > Tradeoffs…
> > 
> > I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is looping 
> > around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be reset to the 
> > minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is executed.
> > 
> > Complex…
> > 
> 
> You are using this timer to predict the delay for draining the pipeline.
> It would only take a read of a slow IO device register to exceed it.

Yes, exactly::

Consider a GBOoO processor that performs a LD R9,[deviceCR].

a) all earlier memory references have to be seen globally
...before this LD can be seen globally. {dozens of cycles}
b) this LD has to arrive at HostBridge. {dozens of cycles}
c) HostBrdge sends request down PCIe    {hundreds of cycles}
d) device responds to LD                {handful of cycles}
e) PCIe transports response to HB       {hundreds of cycles}
f) HB transfers response to requestor   {dozens of cycles}
g) CPU is allowed to re-enter OoO       {handful of cycles}

Accesses to devices need to have most of the properties of
"Sequential Consistency" as defined by Lamport.

Now, several LDs [DeviceCRs] can be seen globally and in order
before the first (or all responses) but you are going to see all 
that latency in the pipeline; but OoO memory requests are not one 
of them.

> I was thinking a simple and cheap way would be to use a variation of the
> single-step mechanism. An interrupt request would cause Decode to emit a
> special uOp with the single-step flag set and then stall, to allow the
> pipeline to drain the old stream before accepting the interrupt and
> redirecting Fetch to its handler. That way if there are and interrupt
> enable or disable instructions, or branch mispredicts, or pending exceptions
> in-flight they all are allowed to finish and the state to settle down.
> 
> Pipelining interrupt delivery looks possible but gets complicated and
> expensive real quick.
> 
> 
>

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#114226 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-29 17:45 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gft1t$3po6e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114222
On 2025-11-29 4:10 p.m., EricP wrote:
> Robert Finch wrote:
>> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down- 
>> count delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
>> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being 
>> deferred because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the 
>> pipeline. I guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many 
>> cases where IRQs are disabled then enabled again.
>>
>> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not 
>> be committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU 
>> were allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a 
>> loop flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code 
>> instead of progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
>>
>> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
>> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
>>
>> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the 
>> CPU would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between 
>> fetching ISR instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the 
>> other hand, a larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
>>
>> Tradeoffs…
>>
>> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is 
>> looping around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be 
>> reset to the minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is 
>> executed.
>>
>> Complex…
>>
> 
> You are using this timer to predict the delay for draining the pipeline.
> It would only take a read of a slow IO device register to exceed it.
> 
The down count is counting down only when the front-end of the pipeline 
advances, instructions are sure to be loaded.

> I was thinking a simple and cheap way would be to use a variation of the
> single-step mechanism. An interrupt request would cause Decode to emit a
> special uOp with the single-step flag set and then stall, to allow the
> pipeline to drain the old stream before accepting the interrupt and
> redirecting Fetch to its handler. That way if there are and interrupt
> enable or disable instructions, or branch mispredicts, or pending 
> exceptions
> in-flight they all are allowed to finish and the state to settle down.
> 
> Pipelining interrupt delivery looks possible but gets complicated and
> expensive real quick.
> 
> 
> 
The base down count increases every time the IRQ is found at the commit 
stage. If the base down count is too large (stuck interrupt) then an 
exception is processed. For instance if interrupts were disabled for 
1000 clocks.

I think the mechanism could work, complicated though.

Treating the DI as an exception, as mentioned in another post would also 
work. It is a matter then of flushing the instructions between the DI 
and ISR.


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#114227 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromMitchAlsup <user5857@newsgrouper.org.invalid>
Date2025-11-29 23:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<1764458063-5857@newsgrouper.org>
In reply to#114226
Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:

> On 2025-11-29 4:10 p.m., EricP wrote:
> > Robert Finch wrote:
> >> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down- 
> >> count delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40 
> >> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being 
> >> deferred because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the 
> >> pipeline. I guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many 
> >> cases where IRQs are disabled then enabled again.
> >>
> >> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not 
> >> be committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU 
> >> were allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a 
> >> loop flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code 
> >> instead of progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
> >>
> >> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be 
> >> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
> >>
> >> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the 
> >> CPU would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between 
> >> fetching ISR instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the 
> >> other hand, a larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
> >>
> >> Tradeoffs…
> >>
> >> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is 
> >> looping around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be 
> >> reset to the minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is 
> >> executed.
> >>
> >> Complex…
> >>
> > 
> > You are using this timer to predict the delay for draining the pipeline.
> > It would only take a read of a slow IO device register to exceed it.
> > 
> The down count is counting down only when the front-end of the pipeline 
> advances, instructions are sure to be loaded.
> 
> > I was thinking a simple and cheap way would be to use a variation of the
> > single-step mechanism. An interrupt request would cause Decode to emit a
> > special uOp with the single-step flag set and then stall, to allow the
> > pipeline to drain the old stream before accepting the interrupt and
> > redirecting Fetch to its handler. That way if there are and interrupt
> > enable or disable instructions, or branch mispredicts, or pending 
> > exceptions
> > in-flight they all are allowed to finish and the state to settle down.
> > 
> > Pipelining interrupt delivery looks possible but gets complicated and
> > expensive real quick.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> The base down count increases every time the IRQ is found at the commit 
> stage. If the base down count is too large (stuck interrupt) then an 
> exception is processed. For instance if interrupts were disabled for 
> 1000 clocks.
> 
> I think the mechanism could work, complicated though.
> 
> Treating the DI as an exception, as mentioned in another post would also 
> work. It is a matter then of flushing the instructions between the DI 
> and ISR.

Which is no different than flushing instructions after a mispredicted branch.

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#114229 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-30 02:17 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10ggr1n$44th$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114227
On 2025-11-29 6:14 p.m., MitchAlsup wrote:
> 
> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> posted:
> 
>> On 2025-11-29 4:10 p.m., EricP wrote:
>>> Robert Finch wrote:
>>>> I hard-coded an IRQ delay down-count in the Qupls4 core. The down-
>>>> count delays accepting interrupts for ten clock cycles or about 40
>>>> instructions if an interrupt got deferred. The interrupt being
>>>> deferred because interrupts got disabled by an instruction in the
>>>> pipeline. I guessed 40 instructions would likely be enough for many
>>>> cases where IRQs are disabled then enabled again.
>>>>
>>>> The issue is the pipeline is full of ISR instructions that should not
>>>> be committed because the IRQs got disabled in the meantime. If the CPU
>>>> were allowed to accept another IRQ right away, it could get stuck in a
>>>> loop flushing the pipeline and reloading with the ISR routine code
>>>> instead of progressing through the code where IRQs were disabled.
>>>>
>>>> I could create a control register for this count and allow it to be
>>>> programmable. But I think that may not be necessary.
>>>>
>>>> It is possible that 40 instructions is not enough. In that case the
>>>> CPU would advance in 40 instruction burps. Alternating between
>>>> fetching ISR instructions and the desired instruction stream. On the
>>>> other hand, a larger down-count starts to impact the IRQ latency.
>>>>
>>>> Tradeoffs…
>>>>
>>>> I suppose I could have the CPU increase the down-count if it is
>>>> looping around fetching ISR instructions. The down-count would be
>>>> reset to the minimum again once an interrupt enable instruction is
>>>> executed.
>>>>
>>>> Complex…
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are using this timer to predict the delay for draining the pipeline.
>>> It would only take a read of a slow IO device register to exceed it.
>>>
>> The down count is counting down only when the front-end of the pipeline
>> advances, instructions are sure to be loaded.
>>
>>> I was thinking a simple and cheap way would be to use a variation of the
>>> single-step mechanism. An interrupt request would cause Decode to emit a
>>> special uOp with the single-step flag set and then stall, to allow the
>>> pipeline to drain the old stream before accepting the interrupt and
>>> redirecting Fetch to its handler. That way if there are and interrupt
>>> enable or disable instructions, or branch mispredicts, or pending
>>> exceptions
>>> in-flight they all are allowed to finish and the state to settle down.
>>>
>>> Pipelining interrupt delivery looks possible but gets complicated and
>>> expensive real quick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> The base down count increases every time the IRQ is found at the commit
>> stage. If the base down count is too large (stuck interrupt) then an
>> exception is processed. For instance if interrupts were disabled for
>> 1000 clocks.
>>
>> I think the mechanism could work, complicated though.
>>
>> Treating the DI as an exception, as mentioned in another post would also
>> work. It is a matter then of flushing the instructions between the DI
>> and ISR.
> 
> Which is no different than flushing instructions after a mispredicted branch.

Got fed up with trying to work out how get interrupts working. It turns 
out to be more challenging than I expected, no matter which way it is 
done. So, I decided to just poll for interrupts, getting rid of most of 
the IRQ logic. I added a branch-on-interrupt BOI instruction that works 
almost the same way as every other branch. Then the micro-op translator 
has been adapted to insert a polling branch periodically. It looks a lot 
simpler.

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#114230 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2025-11-30 10:10 +0000
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gh55o$81k0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114229
Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> schrieb:

> Got fed up with trying to work out how get interrupts working. It turns 
> out to be more challenging than I expected, no matter which way it is 
> done. So, I decided to just poll for interrupts, getting rid of most of 
> the IRQ logic. I added a branch-on-interrupt BOI instruction that works 
> almost the same way as every other branch. Then the micro-op translator 
> has been adapted to insert a polling branch periodically. It looks a lot 
> simpler.

What is the expected delay until an interrupt is delivered?
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#114231 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-30 06:29 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10gh9rk$9jp7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114230
On 2025-11-30 5:10 a.m., Thomas Koenig wrote:
> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> schrieb:
> 
>> Got fed up with trying to work out how get interrupts working. It turns
>> out to be more challenging than I expected, no matter which way it is
>> done. So, I decided to just poll for interrupts, getting rid of most of
>> the IRQ logic. I added a branch-on-interrupt BOI instruction that works
>> almost the same way as every other branch. Then the micro-op translator
>> has been adapted to insert a polling branch periodically. It looks a lot
>> simpler.
> 
> What is the expected delay until an interrupt is delivered?

I set the timing to 16 clocks which is about 64 (or more) instructions. 
Did not want to go much over 1% the number of instructions executed.
Not every instruction inserts a poll, so sometimes a poll is lacking.
IDK how well it will work. Making it an instruction means it might also 
be used by software.

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#114232 — Re: Interrupt enable down-count

FromRobert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-30 06:41 -0500
SubjectRe: Interrupt enable down-count
Message-ID<10ghai0$a0ho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114231
On 2025-11-30 6:29 a.m., Robert Finch wrote:
> On 2025-11-30 5:10 a.m., Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> Robert Finch <robfi680@gmail.com> schrieb:
>>
>>> Got fed up with trying to work out how get interrupts working. It turns
>>> out to be more challenging than I expected, no matter which way it is
>>> done. So, I decided to just poll for interrupts, getting rid of most of
>>> the IRQ logic. I added a branch-on-interrupt BOI instruction that works
>>> almost the same way as every other branch. Then the micro-op translator
>>> has been adapted to insert a polling branch periodically. It looks a lot
>>> simpler.
>>
>> What is the expected delay until an interrupt is delivered?
> 
> I set the timing to 16 clocks which is about 64 (or more) instructions. 
> Did not want to go much over 1% the number of instructions executed.
> Not every instruction inserts a poll, so sometimes a poll is lacking.
> IDK how well it will work. Making it an instruction means it might also 
> be used by software.

Might be able to modify the branch predictor to predict the interrupt.

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#114228 — Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2025-11-29 23:37 +0000
SubjectRe: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress
Message-ID<10gg03h$3rahf$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114212
Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb:
> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>>(Looking at your
>>code, it also does not seem to be self-sufficient, at least the
>>numerous SKIP4 statements require something else).
>
> If you want to assemble the resulting .S file, it's assembled once
> with
>
> -DSKIP4= -Dgforth_engine2=gforth_engine
>
> and once with
>
> -DSKIP4=".skip 4"
>
> (on Linux-GNU AMD64, the .skip assembler directive is autoconfigured
> and may be different on other platforms).
>
>>My assumption is that the control flow is confusing gcc.
>
> My guess is the same.

Both our guesses were wrong, and Scott (I think) was on the right
track - this is a signed / unsigned issue.  A reduced test case is

void bar(unsigned long, long);

void foo(unsigned long u1)
{
  long u3;
  u1 = u1 / 10;
  u3 = u1 % 10;
  bar(u1,u3);
}

This is now https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122911 .

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#114233 — Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2025-11-30 14:14 +0000
SubjectRe: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress
Message-ID<2025Nov30.151416@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#114228
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb:
>Both our guesses were wrong, and Scott (I think) was on the right
>track - this is a signed / unsigned issue.  A reduced test case is
>
>void bar(unsigned long, long);
>
>void foo(unsigned long u1)
>{
>  long u3;
>  u1 = u1 / 10;
>  u3 = u1 % 10;
>  bar(u1,u3);
>}

Assigning to u1 changed the meaning, as Andrew Pinski noted; so the
jury is still out on what the actual problem is.

>This is now https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122911 .

and a revised one at
<https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122919>

(The announced attachment is not there yet.)

The latter case is interesting, because real_ca and spc became global,
and symbols[] is still local, and no assignment to real_ca happens
inside foo().

So one way the compiler could interpret this code might be that
real_ca gets one of the labels whose address is taken in some way
unknown to the compiler; the it has to preserve all the code reachable
through the labels.

Another way to interpret this code would be that symbols is not used,
so it is dead and can be optimized away.  Consequently, none of the
addresses of any of the labels is ever taken, and the labels are not
used by direct jumps, either, so all the code reachable only by
jumping to the labels is unreachable and can be optimized away.

Apparently gcc takes the latter attitude if there are <=100 labels in
symbols, but maybe something like the former attitude if there are
>100 labels in symbols.  This may appear strange, but gcc generally
tends to produce good code in relatively short time for Gforth (while
clang generates horribly slow code and takes extremely long in doing
so), and my guess is that having such a cutoff on doing the usual
analysis has something to do with gcc's superior performance.

I guess that if you treat symbols like in the original code (i.e.,
return it in one case), you can reduce the labels more without the
compiler optimizing everything away.  I don't dare to predict when the
compiler will stop generating the inefficient variant.  Maybe it has
to do with the cutoff.

- anton
-- 
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  Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

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#114234 — Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2025-11-30 15:47 +0000
SubjectRe: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress
Message-ID<10ghotn$fhed$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#114233
Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb:
> Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>>Anton Ertl <anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> schrieb:
>>Both our guesses were wrong, and Scott (I think) was on the right
>>track - this is a signed / unsigned issue.  A reduced test case is
>>
>>void bar(unsigned long, long);
>>
>>void foo(unsigned long u1)
>>{
>>  long u3;
>>  u1 = u1 / 10;
>>  u3 = u1 % 10;
>>  bar(u1,u3);
>>}
>
> Assigning to u1 changed the meaning, as Andrew Pinski noted;

An example which could be tested at run-time to verify correct
operation was not provided, so I had to do without.

In reducing compiler bugs, automated tools such as delta or
(much better) cvise are essential.  Your test case was so
large that cvise failed, so a lot of manual work was required.

cvise uses a user-supplied "interestingness script" which returns
0 if the feature in question is there, or non-zero if it is
not there.   For relatively simple cases like an ICE, it
can have two steps: a) check that compilation fails, and b)
check that the error messages is output.

Looking for a missed optimization is more difficult, especially
in the absence of a run-time test.  It is then necessary to

a) check the source code that the interesting code is still there

b) compile the code (exiting if this fails)

c) verify the generated assembly that it still does the same

a) and c) are very easy to get wrong, and there were numerous
false reductions where cvise came up with something that the
scripts didn't catch.


>so the
> jury is still out on what the actual problem is.
>
>>This is now https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122911 .
>
> and a revised one at
><https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=122919>
>
> (The announced attachment is not there yet.)
>
> The latter case is interesting, because real_ca and spc became global,
> and symbols[] is still local, and no assignment to real_ca happens
> inside foo().

That is what cvise does.  It sometimes reduces code more than a
human would.
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#114236 — Re: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress

Fromanton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Date2025-11-30 16:39 +0000
SubjectRe: Multi-precision addition and architectural progress
Message-ID<2025Nov30.173941@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at>
In reply to#114234
Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes:
>In reducing compiler bugs, automated tools such as delta or
>(much better) cvise are essential.  Your test case was so
>large that cvise failed, so a lot of manual work was required.

I have now done a manual reduction myself; essentially I left only the
3 variants of the VM instruction that performs 10/, plus all the
surroundings, and I added code to ensure that spTOS, spb, and spc are
not dead.  You find the result at

http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/tmp/engine-fast-red.i

The result of compiling this with

gcc  -I./../arch/amd64 -I. -Wall -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pthread -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DFORCE_LL -DFORCE_REG -DDEFAULTPATH='".:/usr/local/lib/gforth/site-forth:/usr/local/lib/gforth/0.7.9_20251119:/usr/local/share/gforth/0.7.9_20251119:/usr/share/gforth/site-forth:/usr/local/share/gforth/site-forth"'   -c  -fno-gcse -fcaller-saves -fno-defer-pop -fno-inline -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-cse-follow-jumps -fno-reorder-blocks -fno-reorder-blocks-and-partition -fno-toplevel-reorder -falign-labels=1 -falign-loops=1 -falign-jumps=1 -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -fcf-protection=none -fno-tree-vectorize -fno-lto -pthread -DENGINE=2 -fPIC -DPIC -o  libengine-fast2-ll-reg-red.S -S engine-fast-red.i

can be found at

http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/tmp/libengine-fast2-ll-reg-red.S

Now the multiplier is permanently allocated to %r11, so searching for
it won't help.  However, if you search for "mulq", you will find the
code generated for the three instances of the VM instruction.  The
first is optimized well, the second exhibits two mulqs and two shrqs,
the third exhibits just one mulq, but two shrqs.

- anton
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