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Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling

From vallor <vallor@vallor.earth>
Subject Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling
Newsgroups comp.ai.shells
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Date 2023-05-27 08:23 +0000

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On Fri, 19 May 2023 00:19:23 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

> Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:
> 
>> If a computer can fool 70% of judges in a five-minute conversation into
>> thinking it's a person, the computer passes the test. Would passing the
>> Turing test – something which now seems imminent – show that an AI has
>> achieved thought and understanding?
>> 
>> From
>> <https://theconversation.com/chatgpt-cant-think-consciousness-is-
something-entirely-different-to-todays-ai-204823>
>> 
>> I invite all serious posters to participate.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Nic <Nic@none.net>
> 
> Your .sig separator is broken.  It should comprise "dash, dash, space,
> return" all on a line by itself.
> This facilitates automatic stripping from quotation by standards
> compliant Newsreader programs.
> 
> Re: your question:
> Does consciousness imply independent self-awareness?
> If so then no, current AIs are not conscious, merely programmed.

Programmed *to "learn"*, then "taught".


> Are AIs capable of deception by way of passing the Turing test?
> I would say yes; IMO the Turing Test is insufficiently rigorous and not
> fit for purpose.

Would you be willing to suggest a better test?

-- 
-v

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For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling Nic <Nic@none.net> - 2023-05-18 18:26 -0400
  Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-19 00:19 +0100
    Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2023-05-19 06:54 +0100
      Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-19 10:59 +0100
        Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2023-05-27 09:25 +0000
          Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-27 10:57 +0100
      Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2023-05-19 07:34 -0500
        Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2023-05-27 08:16 +0000
          Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-27 09:46 +0100
    Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2023-05-19 08:17 +0200
      Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-19 10:59 +0100
    Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2023-05-27 08:23 +0000
      Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2023-05-27 08:38 +0000
        Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-27 10:01 +0100
          Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2023-05-27 10:05 +0000
            Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-27 11:34 +0100
      Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-27 09:45 +0100
  Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@gmail.com> - 2023-05-21 00:11 -0400
    Re: For openers I submit an article that can get the ball rolling snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2023-05-21 05:15 +0100

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