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| Started by | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100 |
| Last post | 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100 |
| Articles | 10 on this page of 390 — 27 participants |
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SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 03:31 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 07:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 19:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 21:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-12 09:28 +0800
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 21:54 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +1300
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 19:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 03:12 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 05:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:25 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 09:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 15:01 -0800
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 19:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 04:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 09:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:09 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 13:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:08 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-13 18:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 18:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 19:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 20:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 21:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 22:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 23:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 06:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 11:54 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 12:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 14:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 14:15 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 16:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 16:11 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 19:33 +1000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 19:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-15 14:47 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies HD <herpem@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-14 20:01 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:18 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 22:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 06:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 13:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-15 14:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 08:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 15:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 04:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 08:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 12:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:23 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:43 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 15:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:03 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 20:30 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 09:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:54 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> - 2017-02-18 23:55 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 14:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 17:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-20 04:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-20 16:18 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 18:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:37 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-23 15:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-24 04:42 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 13:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 21:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 23:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 15:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 17:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 17:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 18:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:31 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:07 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 13:52 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 15:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:10 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 20:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:01 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-16 23:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-16 22:02 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 09:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 11:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 10:36 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-17 13:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 13:24 +1000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:29 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 05:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 11:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 12:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:03 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:20 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:21 +1100
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:20 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:53 +0000
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 23:47 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 00:07 +1100
Re: Cats Peter <noemail@pigpond.com> - 2017-02-19 10:23 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:09 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:37 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:05 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 08:46 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:25 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:52 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:02 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:49 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 09:58 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:20 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 14:16 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:39 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:16 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-20 02:21 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 14:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 14:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 17:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:03 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:38 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:03 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:45 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:26 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-19 14:32 +1000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:57 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:46 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:16 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:42 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:23 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 09:18 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:48 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 16:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:08 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:21 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:31 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:37 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 16:12 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 10:10 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:33 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 11:15 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:44 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:42 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100
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Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100
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Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:07 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:10 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:26 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 10:41 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:06 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 21:36 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 08:57 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-26 18:01 +1100
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Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:33 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:58 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:31 +1100
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Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:26 +1100
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Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:45 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 13:07 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 13:39 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 14:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 15:19 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 17:34 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 17:47 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:56 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 21:54 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:55 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:17 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:32 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 15:00 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:29 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:14 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:30 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 15:43 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:23 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:35 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:36 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:49 +1100
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Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 14:26 +1100
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Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-03 10:35 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-03-02 14:22 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:03 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:12 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 09:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:57 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:40 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:39 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 16:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:28 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:06 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-27 18:52 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:14 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 17:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:46 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:57 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:46 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 18:10 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 01:00 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:33 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:28 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:08 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:30 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:18 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 10:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:07 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-13 10:54 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 00:34 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 14:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-13 15:36 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 11:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:19 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-15 10:37 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-11 07:08 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 08:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 10:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-10 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-10 08:46 +0800
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Re: SA Greenies FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2019-03-16 17:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-23 12:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-10 12:42 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 16:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 22:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 18:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 22:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:01 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-12 08:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:03 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 15:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 21:07 +0000
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <9clt9cl88roa15p36t9o53t73f4cj234jn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32586 |
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:24:17 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: > >> >> No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? > >Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot >houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming >appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun >went down. > >Sylvia > In Sydney wasn't a problem. Now at 8pm it's still hot but cooler so Solar is not helping but air-con will be less taxing on Grid -- Petzl -- Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years, and his last year was AD 37. wrote: "The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received the religion of Christ."
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 22:44 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eg8bpcF56hU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32591 |
On 11/02/2017 8:15 PM, Petzl wrote: > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:24:17 +1100, Sylvia Else > <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: > >> On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: >> >>> >>> No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? >> >> Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot >> houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming >> appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun >> went down. >> >> Sylvia >> > In Sydney wasn't a problem. As it turned out, because the load was moderately lower than AEMO predicted, possibly because people took the trouble to reduce their load a bit. Sylvia.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-12 10:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <2s5v9cp6uhmqlmi1aernvlh29kmirio3tj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32593 |
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:44:44 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 11/02/2017 8:15 PM, Petzl wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:24:17 +1100, Sylvia Else >> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >> >>> On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? >>> >>> Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot >>> houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming >>> appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun >>> went down. >>> >>> Sylvia >>> >> In Sydney wasn't a problem. > >As it turned out, because the load was moderately lower than AEMO >predicted, possibly because people took the trouble to reduce their load >a bit. > Or happened at a time when Solar kicked in -- Petzl We are advised to NOT judge ALL Moslems by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-12 08:16 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7nusr$kc7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32586 |
On 11/02/2017 6:24 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: > >> >> No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? > > Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot > houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming > appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun > went down. Yep. And that should be obvious to anyone, but then it was Petz commenting.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-12 10:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <0u5v9ch3o1ek91ugb7tufbdab6ta2ufras@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32598 |
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:16:55 +1100, Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> wrote: >On 11/02/2017 6:24 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: >> >>> >>> No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? >> >> Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot >> houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming >> appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun >> went down. > >Yep. And that should be obvious to anyone, but then it was Petz commenting. When people got home it was AFTER peak demand and cooler but still hot weather around. Meaning air-con was more efficient using les power. -- Petzl Says a Liberal card carrying *SHILL*! "FRAN" the Shill" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill#Marketing To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7m8ab$4sf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32560 |
On 11/02/2017 11:58 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 10/02/2017 10:06 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote: >> On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>> Fran Snortilus wrote: >>>> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>> >>>>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts >>>>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air >>>>> conditioners >>>>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going >>>>> down. >>>> >>>> And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con >>>> and other than >>>> reliance on such a fragile thing. >>> >>> Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because >>> they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat >> >> READ the thread! People coming home from work and turning on their air >> con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit! >> >> The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on >> their aircon in the current situation. >> > > The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. Yep. Alhthough possibly not the ONLY reason but certainly hugely exacerbated by running air con. > If only the old and infirm ran them then we'd have plenty of generation > capacity. Yep. > > Except that if that were the practice in the past, the generation > capacity to cope wouldn't have been built, and we'd simply have the same > problem but with less comfort. You've got that arse about. If using air con had been the practice in the past, we'd have built the capacity and we wouldn't have the current problem as we'd have built the capacity way back then when we were turning on air con. > > There's no reason we, as consumers, should have to manage with less > power than we want to consume. Say how precious we are and it's our right to have access to air con, won't work. Most of our States have sold most of it off and private enterprise is a law unto itself and even with supposed guarantees of service levels extracted before sale, it's amazing how many and varied are the excuses to be found after sale. The best we can probably do is to buy shares in the power companies. It is the responsibility of the > government to ensure that enough capacity exists, either by adjusting > the market parameters to encourage the construction of sufficient > capacity, or, as a last resort, constructing that capacity themselves. Except that to do that from scratch is the very reason given for why the infrastructure was sold in the first place (old and too expensive to replace/upgrade). States do not have that sort of money any more. > The alternative is that those who can afford to do so will install > backup power systems, and those who cannot will suffer outages. That's > hardly an equitable result. No, but you are right in saying that is what will most likely happen. > > I'm a bit sceptical as to whether the market can really handle this on > its own, because having enough capacity for the extreme events implies > having capacity that's very rarely used. People build generators to earn > a profit, and it's hard to determine whether a profit can be made when > the requirement for the capacity is so rare. Yep. > It maybe that the only way is for the government to build generators > that it guarantees will sit idle except for the occasions when the spot > electricity price reaches its maximum allowed value (currently $14 per > kWh) and there is still insufficient capacity. The cost of that would, > of course, ultimately have to be born by consumers. And tax payers. IMO, not gunna happen in my lifetime. The good old days of government thinking it was there to provide services is now gone. > > Sylvia. > > > >
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| From | felix <me@nothere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-13 15:06 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <egcpnsFrk8tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32578 |
On Saturday, 11 Feb 2017 4:45 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote: > On 11/02/2017 11:58 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 10/02/2017 10:06 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote: >>> On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>> Fran Snortilus wrote: >>>>> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>>> >>>>>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling >>>>>> blackouts >>>>>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air >>>>>> conditioners >>>>>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going >>>>>> down. >>>>> >>>>> And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without >>>>> air con >>>>> and other than >>>>> reliance on such a fragile thing. >>>> >>>> Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because >>>> they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat >>> >>> READ the thread! People coming home from work and turning on their air >>> con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit! >>> >>> The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on >>> their aircon in the current situation. >>> >> >> The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. why shouldn't ppl be able to run air conditioners? it's up to government to provide as much electricity at affordable cost as the community needs > > Yep. Alhthough possibly not the ONLY reason but certainly hugely > exacerbated by running air con. > >> If only the old and infirm ran them then we'd have plenty of generation >> capacity. > > Yep. and if they all died we would have far less health care cost. stupid argument > >> >> Except that if that were the practice in the past, the generation >> capacity to cope wouldn't have been built, and we'd simply have the same >> problem but with less comfort. > > You've got that arse about. If using air con had been the practice in > the past, we'd have built the capacity and we wouldn't have the > current problem as we'd have built the capacity way back then when we > were turning on air con. >> >> There's no reason we, as consumers, should have to manage with less >> power than we want to consume. > > Say how precious we are and it's our right to have access to air con, > won't work. Most of our States have sold most of it off and private > enterprise is a law unto itself and even with supposed guarantees of > service levels extracted before sale, it's amazing how many and varied > are the excuses to be found after sale. The best we can probably do > is to buy shares in the power companies. the reason governments have to sell assets is because stupid voters keep voting in Labor governments who run up massive debt > > It is the responsibility of the >> government to ensure that enough capacity exists, either by adjusting >> the market parameters to encourage the construction of sufficient >> capacity, or, as a last resort, constructing that capacity themselves. > > Except that to do that from scratch is the very reason given for why > the infrastructure was sold in the first place (old and too expensive > to replace/upgrade). States do not have that sort of money any more. > >> The alternative is that those who can afford to do so will install >> backup power systems, and those who cannot will suffer outages. That's >> hardly an equitable result. > > No, but you are right in saying that is what will most likely happen. >> >> I'm a bit sceptical as to whether the market can really handle this on >> its own, because having enough capacity for the extreme events implies >> having capacity that's very rarely used. People build generators to earn >> a profit, and it's hard to determine whether a profit can be made when >> the requirement for the capacity is so rare. > > Yep. > >> It maybe that the only way is for the government to build generators >> that it guarantees will sit idle except for the occasions when the spot >> electricity price reaches its maximum allowed value (currently $14 per >> kWh) and there is still insufficient capacity. The cost of that would, >> of course, ultimately have to be born by consumers. > > And tax payers. IMO, not gunna happen in my lifetime. The good old > days of government thinking it was there to provide services is now gone. >> >> Sylvia. >> >> >> >> > -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-13 17:28 +1100 |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:06:57 +1100, felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote: >>> The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. > >why shouldn't ppl be able to run air conditioners? it's up to government >to provide as much electricity at affordable cost as the community needs Power Plants are sort of State operations but funded by Federal. The only funding seems to be for wind mills and solar and jumping the gun in shutting down coal. A gas fired one near me was stopped being built because of "NOx" emissions (sort of nonsense they can easily be lowered/removed, often by simply adding controlled water/steam injection to the gas turbine) http://www.smh.com.au/environment/power-plant-will-put-lives-at-risk-experts-warn-20090821-etsl.html This is just gutlessness by Governments who would easily know this and where or who are these political appointed experts? I'm one and don't agree concerns should be raised and stacks monitored and latest Tech allows Everything to be monitored cheaply.results recorded by computer. These scanners have what not is asked for not recorded because of "expert ""Don Quixote's". Wind Mills though are improving in leaps and bounds costing less and churning out more energy with less maintenance. So shouldn't be totally disregarded. http://reneweconomy.com.au/super-conductor-turbines-could-slash-australian-wind-energy-costs-84828/ In this case it's the generators are smaller putting out higher capacity fo less "fuel" sun/wind/fossil. -- Petzl "To Be A Politician You Need Three Things. Be a Good Liar, A Great Cheat and a Brilliant Thief." Malcolm Turnbull Its time for Malcolm to kick some arse....his own!!! Australian MPs now among the highest paid in the world http://www.news.com.au/national/australian-mps-now-among-the-highest-paid-in-the-world/story-fncynjr2-1226681596923 https://is.gd/nOyfr9 Turnbull draing the swamp! http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/cc61ccd180d35f931bae6ced5e4febaf?width=1024 ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" *LAST*, Federal State and Council! Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia. For Turnbull, ‘multi-faith’ only means Islam https://is.gd/bunwYB
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| From | Ördög <devil@hell.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-13 21:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a3psnl.5gr.19.1@news.alt.net> |
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felix <me@nothere.invalid> live on stage: > the reason governments have to sell assets is because stupid voters keep > voting in Labor governments who run up massive debt I guess you don't share the LNP's ideological free marketeering privatisation mania. Yet your voting preferences help keep returning them to power. Oh, well. I would not expect from your ilk any deeper kind of understanding of left politics, nor possessing an intact logical reasoning ability. -- Ördög (Your scary shadow that says "Booo" in the dark)
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| From | felix <me@nothere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eghks3Frg5sU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32658 |
On Tuesday, 14 Feb 2017 8:07 AM, Ördög wrote: > felix <me@nothere.invalid> live on stage: > >> the reason governments have to sell assets is because stupid voters keep >> voting in Labor governments who run up massive debt > I guess you don't share the LNP's ideological free marketeering > privatisation mania. > Yet your voting preferences help keep returning them to power. because elections are never about a single issue. and we needed to put the ppl smugglers out of business, and Abbott did just that. but in fact you don't know who I vote for > > Oh, well. I would not expect from your ilk any deeper kind of > understanding of left politics, nor possessing an intact logical > reasoning ability. > 'we' are all well aware of the extent of your 'logical reasoning ability' -- http://thereligionofpeace.com http://www.barenakedislam.com/ http://www.siotw.org
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