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| Started by | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100 |
| Last post | 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 390 — 27 participants |
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SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 03:31 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 07:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 19:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 21:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-12 09:28 +0800
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 21:54 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +1300
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 19:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 03:12 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 05:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:25 -0800
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 09:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 15:01 -0800
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 19:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 04:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 09:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:09 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 13:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:08 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-13 18:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 18:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 19:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 20:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 21:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 22:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 23:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 06:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 11:54 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 12:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 14:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 14:15 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 16:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:27 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 16:11 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 19:33 +1000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 19:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-15 14:47 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:39 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies HD <herpem@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-14 20:01 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:18 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 22:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 06:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 13:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-15 14:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 08:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 15:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 04:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 08:57 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 12:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:23 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:43 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 15:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:03 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 20:30 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 09:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:54 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> - 2017-02-18 23:55 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 14:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 17:02 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-20 04:16 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-20 16:18 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 18:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:37 +0000
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-23 15:27 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-24 04:42 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 13:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 21:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 23:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:31 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 15:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 17:41 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 17:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:25 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 18:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:31 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:33 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:07 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 13:52 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:38 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 15:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:56 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:35 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:10 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 20:40 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:01 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-16 23:34 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +1100
Re: SA Greenies not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-16 22:02 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 09:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 11:12 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 10:36 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-17 13:59 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 13:24 +1000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:29 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:49 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 05:23 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 11:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:48 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 12:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:03 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:04 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:20 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:43 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:55 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:14 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:21 +1100
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:20 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:53 +0000
Re: Cats felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 23:47 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 00:07 +1100
Re: Cats Peter <noemail@pigpond.com> - 2017-02-19 10:23 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:09 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:37 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:05 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 08:46 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-19 09:25 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:52 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 14:02 +0000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 11:49 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 09:58 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:20 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 14:16 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:39 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:16 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-20 02:21 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 14:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 14:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 17:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:03 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:38 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:03 +0000
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:45 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:26 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-19 14:32 +1000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:57 +1100
Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:04 +0000
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:46 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:16 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:42 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:23 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 09:18 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:48 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 16:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:08 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:21 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:31 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:37 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 16:12 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 10:10 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:33 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 11:15 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:44 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:42 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100
Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100
Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:56 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-21 00:39 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:07 +1100
Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:10 +0000
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:26 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 10:41 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:06 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 21:36 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 08:57 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-26 18:01 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:41 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:33 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:58 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:31 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-22 09:29 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:26 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:44 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:45 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 13:07 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 13:39 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 14:55 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 15:19 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 17:34 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 17:47 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 18:04 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:56 +1100
Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 21:54 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:55 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:17 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:32 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 15:00 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:29 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:14 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:30 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 15:43 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:23 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:35 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:36 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:49 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 16:11 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:05 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 23:06 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:16 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-02 08:13 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 14:26 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 08:15 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 10:48 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 11:16 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-03 10:35 +1000
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:52 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-03-02 14:22 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:03 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:12 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 09:46 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:57 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:40 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:39 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 16:38 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:28 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:06 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-27 18:52 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:14 +1100
Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 17:43 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:25 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:47 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:46 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:23 +1100
Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:19 +1100
Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:57 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:46 +1100
Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 +1000
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 18:10 +1100
Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 01:00 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:33 +1100
Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:28 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:46 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:08 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:30 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:18 +0000
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 10:20 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:22 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:07 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-13 10:54 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 00:34 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 14:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-13 15:36 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 11:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:19 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-15 10:37 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:32 +1100
Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-11 07:08 +1000
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 08:13 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000
Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 10:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-10 14:37 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-10 08:46 +0800
Re: SA Greenies ellefranqq@gmail.com - 2019-03-15 19:06 -0700
Re: SA Greenies FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2019-03-16 17:21 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-23 12:52 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-10 12:42 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 16:00 +1100
Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 22:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:36 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 18:24 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 22:44 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:01 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-12 08:16 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:03 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 15:06 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:28 +1100
Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 21:07 +0000
Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 07:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <tj8s9cli7juhrpp4lkrtbfn1flgthf2gpt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32533 |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:44:31 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote: >Je?us wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:23:24 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Je?us wrote: >>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:57:51 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Je?us wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:52:04 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>>> >>>>>> Where does the 'SA Greenies' or 'green' fit into the picture? >>>>>> >>>>> The greenies have made a system that relies on wind power etc, have shut >>>>> down a coal fired generator and rely on other states for backup and if >>>>> the wind does not blow or they have a storm that damages things their >>>>> setup does not work well. >>>> >>>> So, who are these 'greenies' you speak of? >>>> >>> The south Australian government is inclined to greenie views and is >>> attempting to run their power supply along green lines and it is not >>> working so far. >> >> You sure they're not commies too? >> >No, just inclined to green views,so far it has cost SA the most >expensive and unreliable power system in Aus . >All this renewable energy is a good idea if worked up to slowly. It's a great idea, I generate all my own power from solar and have done for years, so I know it is viable. >In the interim things like much cleaner coal fired would fill the gap >till we work out renewables that work and are cost effective. >Modern reactors are probably the best at the moment but we are not >likely to go that way. I'll be all for nuclear power once we can both safely harness/control the energy and dispose of the waste. We still can't do any of those things, so it's not an option IMO.
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| From | "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 07:08 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <589e2bdd$0$43857$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #32548 |
"Jeßus" <j@j.net> wrote in message news:tj8s9cli7juhrpp4lkrtbfn1flgthf2gpt@4ax.com... > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:44:31 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>Je?us wrote: >>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:23:24 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Je?us wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:57:51 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Je?us wrote: >>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:52:04 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where does the 'SA Greenies' or 'green' fit into the picture? >>>>>>> >>>>>> The greenies have made a system that relies on wind power etc, have >>>>>> shut >>>>>> down a coal fired generator and rely on other states for backup and >>>>>> if >>>>>> the wind does not blow or they have a storm that damages things their >>>>>> setup does not work well. >>>>> >>>>> So, who are these 'greenies' you speak of? >>>>> >>>> The south Australian government is inclined to greenie views and is >>>> attempting to run their power supply along green lines and it is not >>>> working so far. >>> >>> You sure they're not commies too? >>> >>No, just inclined to green views,so far it has cost SA the most >>expensive and unreliable power system in Aus . >>All this renewable energy is a good idea if worked up to slowly. > > It's a great idea, I generate all my own power from solar and have > done for years, so I know it is viable. > >>In the interim things like much cleaner coal fired would fill the gap >>till we work out renewables that work and are cost effective. >>Modern reactors are probably the best at the moment but we are not >>likely to go that way. > > I'll be all for nuclear power once we can both safely harness/control > the energy and dispose of the waste. We still can't do any of those > things, so it's not an option IMO. I was thinking that "Van Dieman's Land" would make make a wonderful repository for the waste. It has all the essentials, small population, lots of scenic wonders and is not part of the mainland.
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 08:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <k6bs9cp24jcacttf1lc2e0tvvg4f8q1ng1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32551 |
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 07:08:36 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote: > >"Jeßus" <j@j.net> wrote in message >news:tj8s9cli7juhrpp4lkrtbfn1flgthf2gpt@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:44:31 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>Je?us wrote: >>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:23:24 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Je?us wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 14:57:51 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Je?us wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 21:52:04 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where does the 'SA Greenies' or 'green' fit into the picture? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> The greenies have made a system that relies on wind power etc, have >>>>>>> shut >>>>>>> down a coal fired generator and rely on other states for backup and >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> the wind does not blow or they have a storm that damages things their >>>>>>> setup does not work well. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, who are these 'greenies' you speak of? >>>>>> >>>>> The south Australian government is inclined to greenie views and is >>>>> attempting to run their power supply along green lines and it is not >>>>> working so far. >>>> >>>> You sure they're not commies too? >>>> >>>No, just inclined to green views,so far it has cost SA the most >>>expensive and unreliable power system in Aus . >>>All this renewable energy is a good idea if worked up to slowly. >> >> It's a great idea, I generate all my own power from solar and have >> done for years, so I know it is viable. >> >>>In the interim things like much cleaner coal fired would fill the gap >>>till we work out renewables that work and are cost effective. >>>Modern reactors are probably the best at the moment but we are not >>>likely to go that way. >> >> I'll be all for nuclear power once we can both safely harness/control >> the energy and dispose of the waste. We still can't do any of those >> things, so it's not an option IMO. > >I was thinking that "Van Dieman's Land" would make make a wonderful >repository for the waste. It has all the essentials, small population, lots >of >scenic wonders and is not part of the mainland. Yes, I agree. Would be a perfect place for it.
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| From | Ördög <devil@hell.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <a3ffbk.duo.17.22@news.alt.net> |
| In reply to | #32511 |
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> live on stage: > This SA green power supply works well does not it? It will do in the not too distant future! All that needed is a nationalisation of all power generation capacity, and speeding up the building of all types of renewable energy generation plants coupled with increased research efforts to resolve the issue of access storage. Better batteries are already on the way! Fossil fuel reliant generation is now a dead end industry. Clean coal technology is a pie in the sky! -- Ördög (A Devil in service of aus.politics and Usenet)
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| From | Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eg4b6iF6ivqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32511 |
On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: > This SA green power supply works well does not it? **The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. It will get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. The latest problem occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it was not profitable enough. It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned ones. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| From | Jeßus <j@j.net> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 10:36 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <h0vp9ctqlh5l2ion0149s07qv35oohm9jb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32516 |
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:05:37 +1100, Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: >On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> This SA green power supply works well does not it? > > >**The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began >privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. It will >get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will >increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more >people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. The latest problem >occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested >more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it >was not profitable enough. > >It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed >to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned >ones. Agree with all that, essential services should *not* be privatised in any form. What other outcome can there be when such services are in private hands? Having said that, I would add that there are many people in a position to generate their own power and won't do it... meanwhile, they'll keep on bitching about the cost (and reliability) of grid electricity.
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| From | Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 14:37 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7jcfk$6ji$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32517 |
On 10/02/2017 10:36 AM, Je�us wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:05:37 +1100, Trevor Wilson > <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote: > >> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >> >> >> **The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began >> privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. It will >> get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will >> increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more >> people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. The latest problem >> occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested >> more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it >> was not profitable enough. >> >> It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed >> to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned >> ones. > > Agree with all that, essential services should *not* be privatised in > any form. What other outcome can there be when such services are in > private hands? > > Having said that, I would add that there are many people in a position > to generate their own power and won't do it... meanwhile, they'll keep > on bitching about the cost (and reliability) of grid electricity. > When the governments held control of the electricity supplies, they kept sufficient in reserve capacity to allow for such situations as we now experience. Private operators, on the other hand, run lean and mean and *that* is where the problem lies. -- Xeno First they ignore you, Then they ridicule you, Then they fight you, Then you win. Mahatma Ghandi
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| From | Tony <nomail@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 08:46 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <o7j2ds$lb3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32516 |
On 10-Feb-17 7:05 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> This SA green power supply works well does not it? > > > **The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began > privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. It will > get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will > increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more > people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. The latest problem > occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested > more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it > was not profitable enough. > > It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed > to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned > ones. > Spot on. Good article here: https://www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/blackouts-sa-generators-stand-idle-politicians-bicker/ It's a scandal, really.
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| Date | 2019-03-15 19:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <97364d33-a121-46e1-a3b3-6a18a8643e9f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #32520 |
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| From | FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-03-16 17:21 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <2C0jE.11912$N14.4097@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #34119 |
ellefranqq@gmail.com wrote: > yduw©© > ??
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 12:28 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7j4t5$rhr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32516 |
On 10/02/2017 10:05 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> This SA green power supply works well does not it? > > > **The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began > privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. Yep. It will > get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will > increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more > people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. Yep. The latest problem > occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested > more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it > was not profitable enough. Yep. > > It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed > to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned > ones. Yep.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-02-23 12:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eh6tjiF5arrU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32516 |
On 10/02/2017 10:05 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: > On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> This SA green power supply works well does not it? > > > **The fault lies in several places. The big one, is when states began > privatising parts of the electricity and distribution system. It will > get worse, as the industry heads down it's 'death spiral'. Prices will > increase and more people will fit PV panels and batteries. As more > people go off-grid, suppliers will increase prices. The latest problem > occured with the French owned gas-fired power station. When SA requested > more power, the owner refused to start up the power station, because it > was not profitable enough. > > It is insane. Electricity is a vital resource and must NEVER be allowed > to fall into the hands of private industry. Particularly foreign owned > ones. > The report into the load shedding incident in SA is here. <http://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Files/Electricity/NEM/Market_Notices_and_Events/Power_System_Incident_Reports/2017/System-Event-Report-South-Australia-8-February-2017.pdf> It appears that the reason Pelican Point didn't bid to supply extra power is that it is prohibited from doing so because it could not guarantee supply, which in turn was because it didn't have a contract in place for the gas required to run the additional generator. The AEMO has the power to direct a power station to run, and the station must comply if it's technically possible, so lack of profitability would not be involved. In any case, given the high spot prices during period of extreme demand, it's not likely that it would actually be unprofitable. There may be a defect in the market, here. Clearly the AEMO needs to be able to direct generators to run sufficiently in advance of need so that contractual arrangements can be made. Yet the gas supplier must not be given the impression that they have the generator operator over a barrel on pricing. Also, if costs are incurred, but the generator is not in the end needed, there needs to be a way of compensating the operator for the loss - they shouldn't have to bear it themselves. Either way, I don't see this as having anything to do with the nationality of the operator. The situation would have been the same if the operator had been Australian. Sylvia.
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 12:24 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7j4l7$qp2$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32511 |
On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: > This SA green power supply works well does not it? Probably better than your trolling attempt.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 12:42 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eg4k4cF863pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32511 |
On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: > This SA green power supply works well does not it? It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts later today as people return home from work and turn on air conditioners just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going down. The existence of those panels means that there is less incentive to invest in peak load power generation capacity, since it will always be undercut by solar when the sun is shining. But had that capacity existed, we could have used it into the evening when it's needed. If you had such a generator, it could earn you $14 per kWh at times today. The grid should shed those with solar panels first once the sun goes down - but of course, it can't. Sylvia.
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 16:00 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7jhar$hg8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32523 |
On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: > On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> This SA green power supply works well does not it? > > It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts > later today as people return home from work and turn on air conditioners > just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going down. And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con and don't have any other strategy for coping with heat other than reliance on such a fragile thing. > > The existence of those panels means that there is less incentive to > invest in peak load power generation capacity, since it will always be > undercut by solar when the sun is shining. But had that capacity > existed, we could have used it into the evening when it's needed. > > If you had such a generator, it could earn you $14 per kWh at times today. > > The grid should shed those with solar panels first once the sun goes > down - but of course, it can't. Shedding those solar panel owners would be grossly unfair anyway. The power companies are onselling the power generated by those solar panel owners for far more than the power companies are paying (or have ever paid out for that power going into their grid).
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| From | F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <589d5cfc$0$10824$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #32527 |
Fran Snortilus wrote: > On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >> >> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts >> later today as people return home from work and turn on air conditioners >> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going down. > > And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con > and other than > reliance on such a fragile thing. Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat >> >> The existence of those panels means that there is less incentive to >> invest in peak load power generation capacity, since it will always be >> undercut by solar when the sun is shining. But had that capacity >> existed, we could have used it into the evening when it's needed. >> >> If you had such a generator, it could earn you $14 per kWh at times >> today. >> >> The grid should shed those with solar panels first once the sun goes >> down - but of course, it can't. > > Shedding those solar panel owners would be grossly unfair anyway. The > power companies are onselling the power generated by those solar panel > owners for far more than the power companies are paying (or have ever > paid out for that power going into their grid). >
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| From | Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-10 22:06 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <o7k6p4$flc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32531 |
On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote: > Fran Snortilus wrote: >> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>> >>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts >>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air conditioners >>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going >>> down. >> >> And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con >> and other than >> reliance on such a fragile thing. > > Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because > they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat READ the thread! People coming home from work and turning on their air con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit! The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on their aircon in the current situation.
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eg75u0Fnt1bU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32542 |
On 10/02/2017 10:06 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote: > On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote: >> Fran Snortilus wrote: >>> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>> >>>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts >>>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air >>>> conditioners >>>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going >>>> down. >>> >>> And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con >>> and other than >>> reliance on such a fragile thing. >> >> Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because >> they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat > > READ the thread! People coming home from work and turning on their air > con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit! > > The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on > their aircon in the current situation. > The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. If only the old and infirm ran them then we'd have plenty of generation capacity. Except that if that were the practice in the past, the generation capacity to cope wouldn't have been built, and we'd simply have the same problem but with less comfort. There's no reason we, as consumers, should have to manage with less power than we want to consume. It is the responsibility of the government to ensure that enough capacity exists, either by adjusting the market parameters to encourage the construction of sufficient capacity, or, as a last resort, constructing that capacity themselves. The alternative is that those who can afford to do so will install backup power systems, and those who cannot will suffer outages. That's hardly an equitable result. I'm a bit sceptical as to whether the market can really handle this on its own, because having enough capacity for the extreme events implies having capacity that's very rarely used. People build generators to earn a profit, and it's hard to determine whether a profit can be made when the requirement for the capacity is so rare. It maybe that the only way is for the government to build generators that it guarantees will sit idle except for the occasions when the spot electricity price reaches its maximum allowed value (currently $14 per kWh) and there is still insufficient capacity. The cost of that would, of course, ultimately have to be born by consumers. Sylvia.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 15:36 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <lo4t9c1n6881qvet401conf2445192tcta@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32560 |
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:58:38 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote: >On 10/02/2017 10:06 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote: >> On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>> Fran Snortilus wrote: >>>> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote: >>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it? >>>>> >>>>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts >>>>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air >>>>> conditioners >>>>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going >>>>> down. >>>> >>>> And that is part of the problem. People who can't cope without air con >>>> and other than >>>> reliance on such a fragile thing. >>> >>> Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because >>> they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat >> >> READ the thread! People coming home from work and turning on their air >> con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit! >> >> The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on >> their aircon in the current situation. >> > >The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. >If only the old and infirm ran them then we'd have plenty of generation >capacity. > >Except that if that were the practice in the past, the generation >capacity to cope wouldn't have been built, and we'd simply have the same >problem but with less comfort. > >There's no reason we, as consumers, should have to manage with less >power than we want to consume. It is the responsibility of the >government to ensure that enough capacity exists, either by adjusting >the market parameters to encourage the construction of sufficient >capacity, or, as a last resort, constructing that capacity themselves. > >The alternative is that those who can afford to do so will install >backup power systems, and those who cannot will suffer outages. That's >hardly an equitable result. > >I'm a bit sceptical as to whether the market can really handle this on >its own, because having enough capacity for the extreme events implies >having capacity that's very rarely used. People build generators to earn >a profit, and it's hard to determine whether a profit can be made when >the requirement for the capacity is so rare. > >It maybe that the only way is for the government to build generators >that it guarantees will sit idle except for the occasions when the spot >electricity price reaches its maximum allowed value (currently $14 per >kWh) and there is still insufficient capacity. The cost of that would, >of course, ultimately have to be born by consumers. > >Sylvia. No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? Seem a lot of homes have solar panels many in my street mine supplies 13 Kw nieghbours about the same. Couldn't go without air-conditioning, my Jacuzzi, super wide TV and sound system and cappuccino maker -- Petzl What perfect set of circumstances placed our Sun a Celestial ball of fire at just the correct distance from our little blue planet for life to evolve? All simply conicidence? The very fact we exist is nothing but the result of a complex yet inevitable string of chemical accidents and biological mutations? There is no Grand meaning; There is no purpose?
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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Date | 2017-02-11 18:24 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <eg7sh1FrlltU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32573 |
On 11/02/2017 3:36 PM, Petzl wrote: > > No mention of those providing Solar power during peak demand times? Part of the problem yesterday was that people were coming home to hot houses, and turning on the air-conditioning and other power consuming appliances, just at the time solar panels were ceasing output as the sun went down. Sylvia
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