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Re: SA Greenies

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups aus.electronics, aus.politics
Subject Re: SA Greenies
Date 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100
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On 10/02/2017 10:06 PM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
> On 10/02/2017 5:26 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>> Fran Snortilus wrote:
>>> On 10/02/2017 12:42 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 9/02/2017 9:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
>>>>> This SA green power supply works well does not it?
>>>>
>>>> It's not helping us in NSW, with the AEMO warning of rolling blackouts
>>>> later today as people return home from work and turn on air
>>>> conditioners
>>>> just as the solar panel output is dropping because the sun is going
>>>> down.
>>>
>>> And that is part of the problem.  People who can't cope without air con
>>> and  other than
>>> reliance on such a fragile thing.
>>
>> Let us go back to the old days where the old and infirm died because
>> they don't have any other strategy for coping with heat
>
> READ the thread!  People coming home from work and turning on their air
> con WILL NOT BE THE OLD OR THE INFIRM you twit!
>
> The old and infirm are the only ones who should be allowed to turn on
> their aircon in the current situation.
>

The only reason we have a problem is that people run air-conditioners. 
If only the old and infirm ran them then we'd have plenty of generation 
capacity.

Except that if that were the practice in the past, the generation 
capacity to cope wouldn't have been built, and we'd simply have the same 
problem but with less comfort.

There's no reason we, as consumers, should have to manage with less 
power than we want to consume. It is the responsibility of the 
government to ensure that enough capacity exists, either by adjusting 
the market parameters to encourage the construction of sufficient 
capacity, or, as a last resort, constructing that capacity themselves.

The alternative is that those who can afford to do so will install 
backup power systems, and those who cannot will suffer outages. That's 
hardly an equitable result.

I'm a bit sceptical as to whether the market can really handle this on 
its own, because having enough capacity for the extreme events implies 
having capacity that's very rarely used. People build generators to earn 
a profit, and it's hard to determine whether a profit can be made when 
the requirement for the capacity is so rare.

It maybe that the only way is for the government to build generators 
that it guarantees will sit idle except for the occasions when the spot 
electricity price reaches its maximum allowed value (currently $14 per 
kWh) and there is still insufficient capacity. The cost of that would, 
of course, ultimately have to be born by consumers.

Sylvia.



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SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-09 21:52 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 03:31 -0800
  Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 07:15 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:57 +1100
      Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 15:31 +1100
        Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:15 +1100
          Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 19:53 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 20:02 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:39 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 21:20 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 21:33 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 22:17 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies pedro <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-12 09:28 +0800
              Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 21:54 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:34 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies "~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 23:49 +1300
      Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:00 +1100
        Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:23 +1100
          Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 17:40 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 19:44 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 20:13 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 03:12 -0800
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 05:59 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 14:25 -0800
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 09:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> - 2017-02-10 15:01 -0800
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 12:49 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 14:53 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 16:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-11 19:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:12 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:56 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 04:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 09:38 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:00 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 12:09 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 13:44 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 14:55 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:08 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-13 18:27 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 18:34 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 19:41 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 20:00 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 21:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-13 22:05 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 23:25 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 06:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:46 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:58 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 11:54 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:55 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 12:27 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 14:27 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 14:15 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 16:02 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:27 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:05 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 16:11 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:21 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 17:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-14 19:33 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:34 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:59 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:58 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-14 16:57 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 17:23 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 19:39 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-15 14:47 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 11:53 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 11:59 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-14 12:39 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-14 20:50 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies HD <herpem@bigpond.com> - 2017-02-14 20:01 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-14 21:18 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-14 22:43 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 06:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 12:35 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 13:58 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-15 14:58 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-15 23:36 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 08:44 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 15:17 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 15:56 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-16 17:55 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 04:49 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 08:57 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 10:04 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 12:48 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:32 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:13 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 14:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:21 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:31 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 19:14 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:00 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:23 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:43 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 15:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:26 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:03 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 20:30 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 10:16 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 09:22 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-18 11:54 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@your.scary.shadow.edu> - 2017-02-18 23:55 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 11:32 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 11:58 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:53 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 14:15 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:31 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:33 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 17:02 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:35 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:52 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-20 04:16 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-20 16:18 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 18:50 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:37 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-23 15:27 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-24 04:42 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 15:36 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 13:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 13:55 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 16:21 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 16:56 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 17:26 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 21:32 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-19 23:55 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 13:31 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 15:21 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:50 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 17:41 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 17:36 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 16:25 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 16:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-17 18:14 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 08:31 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:12 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 10:33 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:22 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:07 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 13:52 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 14:37 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:36 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:38 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 15:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 15:56 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 16:35 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 17:10 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 20:40 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 21:01 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-16 23:34 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 08:50 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2017-02-16 22:02 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 09:17 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-17 11:12 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 10:36 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2017-02-17 13:59 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-17 13:24 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-17 17:29 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-16 11:49 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 05:23 +1100
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                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-16 11:52 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-17 11:48 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 12:04 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-17 13:03 +1100
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                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-17 19:36 +1100
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                Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-18 11:14 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:13 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-18 12:21 +1100
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                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:09 +0000
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                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-19 14:32 +1000
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-19 15:57 +1100
                Re: Cats Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-19 10:04 +0000
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-19 18:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:16 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:37 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 10:42 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 08:23 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 09:18 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:48 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-20 16:25 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 17:08 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-20 16:21 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:31 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 12:37 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:04 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 16:12 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 10:10 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:33 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-21 11:15 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:44 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:42 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:54 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:21 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:53 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:17 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-19 10:20 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-19 12:06 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 09:27 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 11:28 +1100
                Re: Cats Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-20 11:29 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 19:43 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 19:53 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-20 20:26 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-20 20:42 +1100
                Re: Cats Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-23 09:56 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-20 23:59 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-21 00:39 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 01:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:30 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 18:07 +1100
                Re: Cats Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2017-02-23 04:10 +0000
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-23 16:26 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 10:41 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-25 16:06 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-25 21:36 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-26 08:57 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-26 18:01 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-21 10:41 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:50 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:33 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 00:58 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:31 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-22 09:29 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:26 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:44 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:55 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:45 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 13:07 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 13:39 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 14:55 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 15:19 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 17:34 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 17:47 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 18:04 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:56 +1100
                Re: Cats Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-22 21:54 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 18:55 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:17 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 14:32 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 15:00 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:19 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:29 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:14 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-23 00:30 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 15:43 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:23 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:35 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 16:36 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:38 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-01 15:49 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 16:11 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:05 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-01 23:06 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 00:16 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-02 08:13 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-02 12:49 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-03-02 14:26 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 08:15 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 10:48 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-03-03 11:16 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-03-03 10:35 +1000
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-03 14:52 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-03-02 14:22 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:03 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 18:12 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 09:46 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:57 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:40 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 09:56 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-03-01 14:39 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 16:38 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-27 17:28 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-27 18:06 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-27 18:52 +1000
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-28 06:14 +1100
                Re: Cats Fran Snortilus <nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> - 2017-02-28 17:43 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-22 10:25 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:52 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 11:47 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:46 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-23 00:23 +1100
                Re: Cats Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-21 10:19 +1100
                Re: Cats felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> - 2017-02-22 10:57 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:46 +1100
                Re: Cats "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-21 12:14 +1000
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 18:10 +1100
                Re: Cats F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 01:00 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-22 07:33 +1100
                Re: Cats de chucka <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-21 11:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-17 09:28 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-18 09:46 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:08 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-18 21:30 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2017-02-18 15:18 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-16 13:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-12 10:20 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-12 11:22 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-12 16:07 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-13 10:54 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 00:34 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 14:45 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-13 15:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-13 15:36 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-13 15:52 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-15 11:05 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:19 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-15 10:37 +1000
              Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 07:32 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2017-02-11 07:08 +1000
                Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-11 08:13 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-09 22:17 +0000
  Re: SA Greenies Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> - 2017-02-10 10:05 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2017-02-10 10:36 +1100
      Re: SA Greenies Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2017-02-10 14:37 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Tony <nomail@nospam.com> - 2017-02-10 08:46 +0800
      Re: SA Greenies ellefranqq@gmail.com - 2019-03-15 19:06 -0700
        Re: SA Greenies FMurtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2019-03-16 17:21 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:28 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-23 12:52 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 12:24 +1100
  Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-10 12:42 +1100
    Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 16:00 +1100
      Re: SA Greenies F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2017-02-10 17:26 +1100
        Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-10 22:06 +1100
          Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 11:58 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 15:36 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 18:24 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 20:15 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-11 22:44 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:01 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-12 08:16 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-12 10:03 +1100
            Re: SA Greenies Fran Snortilus <ask@itsahoot.com> - 2017-02-11 16:45 +1100
              Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-13 15:06 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2017-02-13 17:28 +1100
                Re: SA Greenies Ördög <devil@hell.net> - 2017-02-13 21:07 +0000
                Re: SA Greenies felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2017-02-15 11:14 +1100

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