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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.electronics, aus.cars, alt.home.repair, uk.d-i-y |
| Subject | Re: DIY Electronic Vehicle Rust Prevention |
| Date | 2024-02-27 19:38 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2jskyef4byq249@pvr2.lan> (permalink) |
| References | (5 earlier) <65db345a@news.ausics.net> <op.2jpnut1nnuhhzz@pvr2.lan> <DHZCN.61731$mMj7.23640@fx01.iad> <65dd0b36@news.ausics.net> <l45kn9Fek82U1@mid.individual.net> |
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alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote > Computer Nerd Kev wrote >> Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote >>> chop <chop654@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote >>>> I sure wouldn't pay hundreds >>>>> for one, but if the root of the thing is just applying simple >>>>> electrical signals to the paint surface, it's an easy thing to test >>>>> a DIY equivalent on some bits of scrap. Some of the patents contain >>>>> useful details. >>>>> >>>>> But if there are actual records of people doing such tests and >>>>> showing that it's all lies, which I can see myself (not just hear >>>>> rumor of), then I wouldn't. >>> >>> A friend of mine tested this in the lab when I was in college. The >>> devices don't work. They've been around for decades and they've never >>> worked. >>> >>> He wrote a paper on it for the class he was in, but I don't think it >>> was >>> ever published since it just debunked some junk science and didn't >>> actually represent any new and valuable research in terms of chemistry. >> That's a shame, it would have been interesting to compare his >> device and test rig with the successful Canadian lab tests: >> https://www.autosaverobd.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/ITS-REPORT-015-05015-4-_3-15-2007_.pdf >> https://www.finalcoat.com/assets/lab_tests/CC_Tech.pdf >> And "Final Coat" have had their device's experimental results >> published in scientific papers (the same testing that the Canadian >> regulator also accepted): >> https://www.finalcoat.com/news.html >> But details of a test done without any financial motivation for its >> success would be very interesting. > It seems strange that I've owed a car for 17 years and when scrapped > because of mechanical problems that were uneconomic to fix there wasn't > a trace of rust on any of the body panels. Nope, nothing strange about that. > My car wasn't fitted with one of these anti-rust wonder products. > Perhaps European car manufactures take a lot morecare with the paint > technology and build quality? Clearly not true of Jags and the BMC crap. > In general, from what I see on certain Youtube videos cars that spend > most of their life in somewhere like Florida have little underbody rust > whereas the same car model that has spent its life in a state where the > roads need to be salted for most of the winter have a significant amount > of rust. Even on fairly young cars the effort required to remove fixings > (bolts etc.) to replace components is higher on cars that have spent > their life further North. > How representative of rust problems on cars is the test detailed above > performed on two body panels? The main problem is not necessarilybody > panels but rust destroying chassis parts etc. beneath the car.
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Re: DIY Electronic Vehicle Rust Prevention Noddy <me@home.com> - 2024-02-26 07:33 +1100
Re: DIY Electronic Vehicle Rust Prevention Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2024-02-26 06:00 +0800
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Re: DIY Electronic Vehicle Rust Prevention Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-02-27 11:45 +1000
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