Re: Fibre

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Fibre
Date	2016-12-30 05:48 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5fc96cd24r22uevepkp41mvlmn8rq58hu5@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:09:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:p7v86cdjukhvkeobvt0mk559j8irfuc6jb@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 11:23:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>news:eciud7FhmsrU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 12/28/2016 3:00 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
>>>>>> your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
>>>>>> Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
>>>>>> into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
>>>>>> the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
>>>>>> to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
>>>>>> frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first point in our house is in my office, then there are points in
>>>>> the
>>>>> kitchen and main bedroom. I wanted the base station for the cordless
>>>>> phone
>>>>> system in the kitchen as that is the most convenient place for the
>>>>> answering machine, but the modem simply did not work on that point. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> solution was to split the wiring in the office and install a dual
>>>>> socket.
>>>>> So the modem is the only thing on the external line, and the modems 
>>>>> VOIP
>>>>> output connects to the other sockets.
>>>>
>>>>Yeah, that's what I meant. His low numbers may be because he isnt doing
>>>>that.
>>>
>>> only have one point in house
>>
>>Then you must be quite a distance from the node
>>to get such a low speed, bit less than a kilometer.
>
> I'm thinking Telecom have it limited
> When I first connected I chose the 25Mb/s plan
> Then they advertised their $99 a month deal which I upgraded to which
> is supposed to be 50Mb/s down speed
> They started charging $110 which was changed to $99 seemed to have to
> ring them up each month after around 2 hours a time I  were credited
> the $10, then it was 2 months before they sent me their TestraTV and
> were told they wouldn't or didn't send it till I got the 50Mb/s down
> speed?
>
> A kilometre is not that far but I estimate it is 500 metres

You should be getting better than that at that distance.

> but the wire may be longer I suppose?

Yeah, it isnt easy to work out where the street cable actually
goes, or even the pillar you are actually wired to either.

> Just get worn down talking to incompetent clowns who don't deliver.

They are only required to provide 12/1 in this coexistence
phase, before all the adsl is turned off. That phase lasts 18
months. And they only guarantee 25/1 after that too.

> Same I found in dealing with Telecome in  the 80's over 30 years and
> 1000's of them never fixing a problem till a service managers select
> team found it was wired wrong and fixed it in less than 10 minutes.

Its different now because they do know which pillar and node
you are connected to and that determines the speed you are
getting, the distance to that and the type of cable used etc.

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