Re: Fibre

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Fibre
Date	2016-12-28 16:00 +1100
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:o9566cpc1s4lgdpff6tl6oo6h7ros8eip5@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 02:59:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:saa46c1k7qb1fmekalvhrmfoc9etarl1iv@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2016 19:28:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>I have just signed up for timed non local calls,
>>>>>>>because I call using voip which is untimed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does that include mobile calls nationally?
>>>>>>Most I call use mobile phones not landline so it was an advantage to
>>>>>>get mobile calls included in package.
>>>>>>Plus I wanted the 1000 gig data and the Telstra video (which does not
>>>>>>come off my data count/use).
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 1000 gig data plus all local national and mobiles plus
>>>>> Telstra TV for $99 a month. My connect speed is 12 Mbs.
>>>>> Does that sound reasonable?
>>>>
>>>>Nope, I will have unlimited data, no included calls, for $60
>>>>I should get a connect speed of around 80Mbs, maybe higher.
>>>
>>> Would like to see what speed you do end up with.
>>
>>So will I.
>>
>>> Basically all one is getting is a working ASDL connection
>>
>>I already have that, 8/1
>>
>>> as your copperwire is nearer house.
>>
>>VDSL2 is very different to ADSL2+
>
> I meant  ADSL2+ should be the same as FttN
> depending on copper wire to house connection.

Nope, VDSL2 is completely different to ADSL2+
ADSL2+ only goes to 2.2MHz on the copper,
VDSL2 goes to 30MHz.

> I think I'm supposed to be on
> 50Mbs but only getting half that.

You likely have quite a long way between your house and the pillar.

How did you decide which pillar you are connected to ?
It can be different to the closest one, particularly if the
you are between the pillar and the exchange.

You can see which pillar you are on using
https://nationalmap.gov.au/#share=s-rmpw5abWbMHqO7gLqIzQhy9dC6p
That is one fucking weird web page. It crashes all of firefox, waterfox and 
pale
moon. Weird on chrome. Surprisingly enough works fine on IE11 but whines
about not being able to run in 3D mode and runs in 2D mode.

You can enter your address in the search box and it auto fills in the 
address,
but clicking on that autofilled address does nothing. You have to manually
drag the map to your location and zoom in to your place. Then you click
on the box that surrounds your place to see the DA number. That number
is painted on your pillar cover.

Ignore what it has to say about FTTN, mine is completely wrong and
wildly out of date. Its essentially just a map of where the DAs are.
DA is distribution area, what street cables come off what pillars.
The pillar is usually close to one corner of the DA in the direction
of the exchange, but not always and isnt marked on that map.
Easy to find by driving around the streets in the DA tho or using
Google Street view to do that.

If you can't make it work, email me you street address and I'll do
it for you. The email address is valid. It looks munged but isnt.

https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=
gives you the ADA of your node and that number is on
the front door of your node engraved into a plastic label.

What did you do about the wiring in your house ?

VDSL2 is very sensitive to the house wiring and you can see
your speeds halved by radial wiring of phone extensions.
Ideally you should plug the incoming phone line directly
into your modem/router and not have any extensions for
the best internet speed. That effect is due to the spurs
to the phone extensions resonating at the much higher
frequencys used by VDSL2 and producing nulls.

In theory you can get a complete printout of the full
detail of the cabling between your house and the
pillar but I'd still reading thru the whirlpool thread
on that and that is from a Jun-16 comment and may
be obsolete now.

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