Re: Fibre

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: Fibre
Date	2016-12-26 05:44 +1100
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"keithr0" <user@account.invalid> wrote in message 
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> On 12/24/2016 1:33 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:oqbr5cdbkpe2gnhvcd5srdas74r1d5cjtc@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 03:58:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:khvp5cpmp2v0mv50ln65322qovspm6bv1j@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 21:32:24 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dflp5ch316bdgl22r51r503bcs24lbc0m1@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 15:16:17 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It does appear to be available today at my place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was originally planning to stay with dodo until my contract
>>>>>>>>> ran out,
>>>>>>>>> 8 months @ $24/month break fee. Not attractive in the long term,
>>>>>>>>> myrepublic.net is much better value for 100/40 unlimited, $60, 
>>>>>>>>> dodo
>>>>>>>>> wants $100 for that. Dodo will allow you to change to the NBN with
>>>>>>>>> no contract penalty, but that involves a whole new 2 year 
>>>>>>>>> contract.

The whirlpool comments on myrepublic arent great, will be interesting to see
how they pan out in practice. Rather slower delivery of a service than some.
The local telstra shop manager I was talking to in the big van they had up
the main street on Friday and Saturday said that those who had ordered
a service on Friday were given a 3-Jan date for actually being able to use
it. Bit hard to believe given that they would have to be pretty lucky to
deliver the modem/router that quick given the sag between Xmas and
New Year with Aust Post.

No one has admitted to having ordered on on the local facebook
community noticeboard yet so it’s a bit hard to see if that will happen.

The general opinion on whirlpool is that Telstra's delivery is one of the 
best.

Pretty lousy value tho.

>>>>>>>>> Dodo's retention people could only offer me $95/month but were
>>>>>>>>> happy to halve the break fee to just $99.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I signed up with myreplublic.net, but that froze on the final
>>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>> Rang them, but have now been on hold for 25 mins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They did eventually answer the phone, had no record
>>>>>>>> of the online signup so I signed up on the phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I only found FttN was available by checking online
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mate of mine found a big Telstra van down the main street today
>>>>>> and asked them when it would be available. He said today in half
>>>>>> the town and a couple more weeks in the other half.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About a month later letters started arriving from ISP's of offers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've been having those for months now, mostly from iprimus and
>>>>>> someone else I can't remember. None from dodo or telstra tho even
>>>>>> tho I have used both in the past and currently use dodo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also had problems for Telstra to give me correct bill always over
>>>>>>> charged by around $10. Took them months to give me a TV modem
>>>>>>> which I use for programs I miss not paying for any Netflix etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Havent used them for more than a decade now. I did use them
>>>>>> when adsl first showed up, basically in case there were problems.
>>>>
>>>>> Well I hated Telecom to ring across the road was a toll cal (046) to
>>>>> (02)
>>>>
>>>> That's not true. When that was across the road, it was still a local
>>>> call.
>>
>>> Didn't aply to me in Campbelltown?
>>
>> Yes it did.
>>
>>>>> when we were allowed to use Optus I changed.
>>
>>>> I do use them for mobile, or more
>>>> strictly amaysim who resells them.
>>
>>> Now with NBN freecalls becoming a norm,
>>
>> That is not correct. You pay extra per month for that.
>>
>>> something must change even better?
>>
>> What ?
>>
>>>>> Problem here is like all bureaucracies they can't or won't
>>>>> fire dickheads instead they sent them to Sydney's furtherest
>>>>> outpost. A legacy of this was bodged copperwire instalation.
>>
>>>> The NBN is being done by contractors.
>>
>>> Who is doing Turnbulls FttN copper to home?
>>
>> Dunno, ours used largely unmarked Avis rental vans.
>>
>> The bigger trucks used to dig the holes that the nodes
>> are above, in the green metal boxes, were also unmarked,
>> presumably also rented.
>
> The original ones around our way were identifiable as Thiess Brothers. 
> There was another mob that had ID on their vans they were called 
> Visionstream, I think that they were the ones doing the fibre termination 
> which is the most skilled part of the job.
>
> http://www.visionstream.com.au/projects/nbn/

Come to think of it, never noticed anyone running any fiber.

But then I mostly did a bit of a wander in the car after
the garage sale run early on Saturday mornings to see
where they were up to so may well have missed that.

Turns out ours was usable rather quicker than yours,

Not clear if our pillars have been modified or not,
they do appear to be a bit taller than they were maybe
and certainly mostly have new covers on them with
handles down the full length of both sides. I thought
those were temporary covers but they now have
proper id lettering on them so are unlikely to be temps.

According to that Telstra shop manager, they do jumper
from your adsl service to your FTTN service in those pillars.

The poor bugger is out on the extreme edge of town
in the newest subdivision and they get a wireless NBN
service from the village a bit further out that isnt going
to get FTTN. Pathetic performance, very variable and
download speeds using speedtest can be 1Mb at times
and is never better than 25. I might get 80 myself.

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