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  Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
    Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 10:53 +1000
      Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 11:11 +1000
        Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 11:21 +1000
          Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:20 +1000
          Re: Mobile internet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 20:42 +0000
            Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-14 06:49 +1000
              Re: Mobile internet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-13 21:22 +0000
                Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:39 +1000
                  Re: Mobile internet Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-04-14 14:19 +0000
                    Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 04:49 +1000
            Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:19 +1000
        Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:55 +1000
          Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 13:10 +1000
            Re: Mobile internet "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 14:49 +1000
        Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:16 +1000
          Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:30 +1000
          Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 18:45 +1000
            Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 21:06 +1000
              Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 21:17 +1000
              Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 22:24 +1000
                Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 22:47 +1000
    Re: Mobile internet news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-04-13 04:46 +0000
      Re: Mobile internet Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:20 +1000
      Re: Mobile internet "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> - 2016-04-13 18:48 +1000
        Re: Mobile internet news16 <news16@woa.com.au> - 2016-04-14 14:44 +0000
      Re: Mobile internet SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> - 2016-04-13 22:48 +1000

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#51746 — Mobile internet

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-13 10:05 +1000
SubjectMobile internet
Message-ID<570d8d58$0$27653$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>
My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. Helstra 
will not hookup
ADSL as they say the distance is too far for reliable service.
Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but offer 
better value? I had
a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big T.

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#51757

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 10:53 +1000
Message-ID<dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51746
SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote

> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. Helstra 
> will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for reliable 
> service.

> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but offer 
> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big T.

That last is just plain wrong, look again.

Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim ? 

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#51762

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-13 11:11 +1000
Message-ID<570d9cb9$0$48771$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#51757
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>
>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>> reliable service.
>
>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but offer 
>> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big T.
>
> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>
> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim ?

400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba 
and
when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses the 
wifi.

> 

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#51775

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-13 11:21 +1000
Message-ID<570d9f22$0$43890$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#51762
"SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote in message 
news:570d9cb9$0$48771$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>
>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>> reliable service.
>>
>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>> offer better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the 
>>> big T.
>>
>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>
>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>> ?
>
> 400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba 
> and
> when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses 
> the wifi.
>
Aldi 6GB for $55
Helstra 10GB $50 or 16GB $105 The difference is that Aldi has a 90 day 
expiry and
Helstra is pm.

The 6GB is the largest Aldi has listed.

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#51803

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 14:20 +1000
Message-ID<dn5voeFgbofU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51775

"SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote in message 
news:570d9f22$0$43890$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote in message 
> news:570d9cb9$0$48771$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>> news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>>> reliable service.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>>> offer better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the 
>>>> big T.
>>>
>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>>
>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>>> ?
>>
>> 400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of 
>> Toowoomba and
>> when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses 
>> the wifi.
>>
> Aldi 6GB for $55
> Helstra 10GB $50 or 16GB $105 The difference is that Aldi has a 90 day 
> expiry and
> Helstra is pm.

Pity about the cost of the plan that allows you to use that.

> The 6GB is the largest Aldi has listed.

But you are free to buy as many of those as you need. 

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#51858

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2016-04-13 20:42 +0000
Message-ID<dn7p9jFa29U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51775
SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
[...]
> Aldi 6GB for $55
> Helstra 10GB $50 or 16GB $105 The difference is that Aldi has a 90 day 
> expiry and
> Helstra is pm.
> 
> The 6GB is the largest Aldi has listed.

  These are *post*-paid ('contract'), right?

  And it seems that you want a long(er) expiry time, right?

  If both are correct, then you may want to have a look at *pre*-paid
Telstra mobile broadband.

  For example 5GB at $50, i.e. a little more expensive than Aldi (which,
AFAICT, you can't use anyway) and  twice the price of Telstra post-paid,
BUT with *one year* expiry time.

  Anyway, have a look at Telstra Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband (for example):

<https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/telstra-pre-paid-4gx-wi-fi-plus>

  Main page at:

<https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/mobile-broadband/prepaid>

  You may also want to have a look at Telstra's data-bundles (BrowsePlus
Packs) for mobile *phones*. If you buy a SIM starter pack for that
service, you can use the SIM in a device which is/acts_like a WiFi
hotspot. Perhaps the speed of this service is lower, but the BrowsePlus
Packs (and Data top-up Packs) have different, often cheaper, price
points than Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband, BUT all with a 30 day expiry
time.

  Main page at:

<https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles>

[N.B. I see that you can now also use the 'Data Passes' with this, so
going this route seems more flexible than going with Telstra Pre-Paid
Mobile Broadband.)

  FYI, I use the latter on my trips in Oz, i.e. I use it as a 'data-SIM'
in a smart-phone, which is used as a WiFi hotspot. I can also use the
smartphone or a 'dumb'/'feature' phone USB-connected (USB tethering) to
my laptop, but normally I don't bother and just use the Wi-Fi hotspot.

  HTH.

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#51861

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-14 06:49 +1000
Message-ID<570eb10e$0$7207$c3e8da3$66d3cc2f@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#51858
"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dn7p9jFa29U1@mid.individual.net...
> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Aldi 6GB for $55
>> Helstra 10GB $50 or 16GB $105 The difference is that Aldi has a 90 day
>> expiry and
>> Helstra is pm.
>>
>> The 6GB is the largest Aldi has listed.
>
>  These are *post*-paid ('contract'), right?
>
>  And it seems that you want a long(er) expiry time, right?
>
>  If both are correct, then you may want to have a look at *pre*-paid
> Telstra mobile broadband.
>
>  For example 5GB at $50, i.e. a little more expensive than Aldi (which,
> AFAICT, you can't use anyway) and  twice the price of Telstra post-paid,
> BUT with *one year* expiry time.

Aldi is using the Telstra network and is/has gone to 4G. So it is usable.

>
>  Anyway, have a look at Telstra Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband (for example):
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/telstra-pre-paid-4gx-wi-fi-plus>
>
>  Main page at:
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/mobile-broadband/prepaid>
>
>  You may also want to have a look at Telstra's data-bundles (BrowsePlus
> Packs) for mobile *phones*. If you buy a SIM starter pack for that
> service, you can use the SIM in a device which is/acts_like a WiFi
> hotspot. Perhaps the speed of this service is lower, but the BrowsePlus
> Packs (and Data top-up Packs) have different, often cheaper, price
> points than Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband, BUT all with a 30 day expiry
> time.
>
>  Main page at:
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles>
>
> [N.B. I see that you can now also use the 'Data Passes' with this, so
> going this route seems more flexible than going with Telstra Pre-Paid
> Mobile Broadband.)
>
>  FYI, I use the latter on my trips in Oz, i.e. I use it as a 'data-SIM'
> in a smart-phone, which is used as a WiFi hotspot. I can also use the
> smartphone or a 'dumb'/'feature' phone USB-connected (USB tethering) to
> my laptop, but normally I don't bother and just use the Wi-Fi hotspot.
>
>  HTH. 

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#51871

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2016-04-13 21:22 +0000
Message-ID<dn7rk4Ft52U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51861
SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
[...]
> Aldi is using the Telstra network and is/has gone to 4G. So it is usable.

  You'd better *check* that, both in theory - i.e. with the coverage
maps on the *Aldi*, *not* Telstra, website - and in practice - i.e. by
buying a 'starter pack' and actually trying it on site.

  I say this, because last time (23DEC2015) I checked these 'cheap'
providers, I found that Aldi uses *part of* the Telstra network.

  Aldi also *says* so:

"Medion Australia Pty Ltd. trading as ALDImobile uses part of
 Telstra's 3G mobile network. The mobile product of ALDImobile
 provides a 3G coverage footprint of 98.5% of the Australian
 Population covering 1.3 million square kilometres. Outside the 3G
 coverage footprint, customers will revert to 2G coverage and
 speeds.  The combined 2G and 3G footprint covers 98.8% of the
 Australian population."

  Note the "part of" bit! :-(

  To see the differences, check:

<https://aldimobile.com.au/#/overlay/coverage-tw>

versus

<https://www.telstra.com.au/coverage-networks/our-coverage>

  I checked an outback town (Birdsville) which I knew had 'real-Telstra'
coverage and indeed Aldi's coverage map did *not* show that town.

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#51881

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-14 09:39 +1000
Message-ID<dn83l1F2p8eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51871

"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dn7rk4Ft52U1@mid.individual.net...
> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
> [...]
>> Aldi is using the Telstra network and is/has gone to 4G. So it is usable.
>
>  You'd better *check* that, both in theory - i.e. with the coverage
> maps on the *Aldi*, *not* Telstra, website - and in practice - i.e. by
> buying a 'starter pack' and actually trying it on site.
>
>  I say this, because last time (23DEC2015) I checked these 'cheap'
> providers, I found that Aldi uses *part of* the Telstra network.
>
>  Aldi also *says* so:
>
> "Medion Australia Pty Ltd. trading as ALDImobile uses part of
> Telstra's 3G mobile network.

That was before the most recent addition of 4G.

The mobile product of ALDImobile
> provides a 3G coverage footprint of 98.5% of the Australian
> Population covering 1.3 million square kilometres. Outside the 3G
> coverage footprint, customers will revert to 2G coverage and
> speeds.  The combined 2G and 3G footprint covers 98.8% of the
> Australian population."
>
>  Note the "part of" bit! :-(
>
>  To see the differences, check:
>
> <https://aldimobile.com.au/#/overlay/coverage-tw>

That's before the 4G coverage too.

> versus
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/coverage-networks/our-coverage>
>
>  I checked an outback town (Birdsville) which I knew had 'real-Telstra'
> coverage and indeed Aldi's coverage map did *not* show that town.

Again, before the 4G coverage. 

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#51909

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2016-04-14 14:19 +0000
Message-ID<dn9n7aFf04vU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51881
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:dn7rk4Ft52U1@mid.individual.net...
> > SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Aldi is using the Telstra network and is/has gone to 4G. So it is usable.
> >
> >  You'd better *check* that, both in theory - i.e. with the coverage
> > maps on the *Aldi*, *not* Telstra, website - and in practice - i.e. by
> > buying a 'starter pack' and actually trying it on site.
> >
> >  I say this, because last time (23DEC2015) I checked these 'cheap'
> > providers, I found that Aldi uses *part of* the Telstra network.
> >
> >  Aldi also *says* so:
> >
> > "Medion Australia Pty Ltd. trading as ALDImobile uses part of
> > Telstra's 3G mobile network.
> 
> That was before the most recent addition of 4G.

  The webpage *still* says that!

  Note that the site only says "4G is coming soon..." ... "We will be
gradually migrating customers over the next 4 weeks". The coverage map
does not mention 4G at all.
  
  So until *Aldi* says it uses the complete Telstra network and
  *changes* their coverage map, my advice to SG1 still holds:

  *Check* on site, especially because this is about a *fixed* location!

[More of the same deleted.]

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#51936

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-15 04:49 +1000
Message-ID<dna72oFj4ubU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51909

"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dn9n7aFf04vU1@mid.individual.net...
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:dn7rk4Ft52U1@mid.individual.net...
>> > SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>> > [...]
>> >> Aldi is using the Telstra network and is/has gone to 4G. So it is 
>> >> usable.
>> >
>> >  You'd better *check* that, both in theory - i.e. with the coverage
>> > maps on the *Aldi*, *not* Telstra, website - and in practice - i.e. by
>> > buying a 'starter pack' and actually trying it on site.
>> >
>> >  I say this, because last time (23DEC2015) I checked these 'cheap'
>> > providers, I found that Aldi uses *part of* the Telstra network.
>> >
>> >  Aldi also *says* so:
>> >
>> > "Medion Australia Pty Ltd. trading as ALDImobile uses part of
>> > Telstra's 3G mobile network.
>>
>> That was before the most recent addition of 4G.
>
>  The webpage *still* says that!

Because currently 4G isnt available yet.

>  Note that the site only says "4G is coming soon..." ... "We
> will be gradually migrating customers over the next 4 weeks".

So clearly 4G will be available.

> The coverage map does not mention 4G at all.

So clearly it has yet to be updated.

>  So until *Aldi* says it uses the complete Telstra network and
>  *changes* their coverage map, my advice to SG1 still holds:
>
>  *Check* on site, especially because this is about a *fixed* location!

Doesn’t alter the fact that Aldi may well be much better value
than Telstra and the most that may be required is to use Telstra
for a couple of weeks if the need is urgent. 

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#51870

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-14 07:19 +1000
Message-ID<dn7rfbFrduU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51858
Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote
> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote

>> Aldi 6GB for $55
>> Helstra 10GB $50 or 16GB $105 The difference is
>> that Aldi has a 90 day expiry and Helstra is pm.

>> The 6GB is the largest Aldi has listed.

>  These are *post*-paid ('contract'), right?

Nope, data packs aren't contract,
you buy what you find you need.

>  And it seems that you want a long(er) expiry time, right?

He's never said what her data usage is likely to be.

But the comment about 6GB being the most aldi has
which is just plain wrong in the sense that you can buy
as many of those as you need, implys its more than 6GB
per month.

> If both are correct, then you may want to have a
> look at *pre*-paid Telstra mobile broadband.

Aldi is MUCH better value on the plan needed to
be able to use those data packs if she doesn’t make
many phone calls or if they are only short ones.

> For example 5GB at $50, i.e. a little more expensive
> than Aldi (which, AFAICT, you can't use anyway)

Corse she can.

> and  twice the price of Telstra post-paid,
> BUT with *one year* expiry time.

>  Anyway, have a look at Telstra Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband (for example):
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles/telstra-pre-paid-4gx-wi-fi-plus>
>
>  Main page at:
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/broadband/mobile-broadband/prepaid>

Lousy value compared with aldi.

>  You may also want to have a look at Telstra's data-bundles (BrowsePlus
> Packs) for mobile *phones*. If you buy a SIM starter pack for that
> service, you can use the SIM in a device which is/acts_like a WiFi
> hotspot. Perhaps the speed of this service is lower, but the BrowsePlus
> Packs (and Data top-up Packs) have different, often cheaper, price
> points than Pre-Paid Mobile Broadband, BUT all with a 30 day expiry
> time.
>
>  Main page at:
>
> <https://www.telstra.com.au/mobile-phones/prepaid-mobiles>
>
> [N.B. I see that you can now also use the 'Data Passes' with this, so
> going this route seems more flexible than going with Telstra Pre-Paid
> Mobile Broadband.)
>
>  FYI, I use the latter on my trips in Oz, i.e. I use it as a 'data-SIM'
> in a smart-phone, which is used as a WiFi hotspot. I can also use the
> smartphone or a 'dumb'/'feature' phone USB-connected (USB tethering) to
> my laptop, but normally I don't bother and just use the Wi-Fi hotspot.
>
>  HTH. 

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#51780

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 12:55 +1000
Message-ID<dn5qpgFf9e4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51762
SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote

>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>> reliable service.

>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>> offer better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the 
>>> big T.

>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.

>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>> ?

> 400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba 
> and when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and 
> uses the wifi.

OK, but you're wrong about aldi not being any cheaper than Telstra.

And they do 4G now too. 

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#51781

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-13 13:10 +1000
Message-ID<570db899$0$28816$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#51780
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:dn5qpgFf9e4U1@mid.individual.net...
> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>
>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>>> reliable service.
>
>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>>> offer better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the 
>>>> big T.
>
>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>
>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>>> ?
>
>> 400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of 
>> Toowoomba and when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal 
>> (Optarse) and uses the wifi.
>
> OK, but you're wrong about aldi not being any cheaper than Telstra.
>
> And they do 4G now too.

Knew about the 4G see price comparisons on other reply
6GB $50 90 days to expire Aldi

10GB $50 pm Helstra

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#51808

From"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 14:49 +1000
Message-ID<dn61epFgnc8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#51781

"SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote in message 
news:570db899$0$28816$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com...
>
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:dn5qpgFf9e4U1@mid.individual.net...
>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>>>> reliable service.
>>
>>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>>>> offer better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that 
>>>>> the big T.
>>
>>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>
>>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like 
>>>> amaysim ?
>>
>>> 400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of 
>>> Toowoomba and when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal 
>>> (Optarse) and uses the wifi.
>>
>> OK, but you're wrong about aldi not being any cheaper than Telstra.
>>
>> And they do 4G now too.
>
> Knew about the 4G see price comparisons on other reply
> 6GB $50 90 days to expire Aldi
>
> 10GB $50 pm Helstra

So they are in fact nothing even remotely like the same price.

In spades when you consider the cost of the
plan you need to actually use the data pack.

In fact if she doesn't use it to make any phone
calls at all and sends no texts, it is MUCH cheaper
to use an Aldi Pay As You Go Plan than anything
the Telstra has to offer. And that is true if she only
makes short calls and sends texts too. That is the
way I do it and it doesn't even cost me $10 month
and I do in fact make lots of short calls every Saturday
during the garage sale run now that we coordinate
the opening times using our mobiles.
 

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#51821

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 17:16 +1000
Message-ID<e4srgbda2kfef4nsmndu1hvjbqkg4iu42i@4ax.com>
In reply to#51762
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:11 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:

>
>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>
>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>> reliable service.
>>
>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but offer 
>>> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big T.
>>
>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>
>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim ?
>
>400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba 
>and
>when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses the 
>wifi.
>
>> 
You have checked the NBN coverage the are supposed to cover the bush
by Satellite?
https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/ipstar/coverage.php
--  
Petzl
"We" are advised to NOT judge ALL Moslems by the actions of a few
lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions
of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
YOU CANNOT STRENGTHEN THE WEAK BY WEAKENING THE STRONG.

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#51823

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 17:30 +1000
Message-ID<4btrgb52oke8v17q9pm7iuapgi4cs6mror@4ax.com>
In reply to#51821
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:16:59 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:11 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange. 
>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for 
>>>> reliable service.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but offer 
>>>> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big T.
>>>
>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>>
>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim ?
>>
>>400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba 
>>and
>>when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses the 
>>wifi.
>>
>>> 
>You have checked the NBN coverage the are supposed to cover the bush
>by Satellite?
>https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/ipstar/coverage.php


http://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/features/Sky-Muster-Launch.html
-- 
Petzl

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#51828

From"SG1" <lost@the.races.com>
Date2016-04-13 18:45 +1000
Message-ID<570e0737$0$15615$c3e8da3$9deca2c3@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#51821
"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:e4srgbda2kfef4nsmndu1hvjbqkg4iu42i@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:11 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange.
>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for
>>>> reliable service.
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>>> offer
>>>> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big 
>>>> T.
>>>
>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>>
>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>>> ?
>>
>>400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba
>>and
>>when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses 
>>the
>>wifi.
>>
>>>
> You have checked the NBN coverage the are supposed to cover the bush
> by Satellite?
> https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/ipstar/coverage.php

Dearer and slower

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#51836

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 21:06 +1000
Message-ID<7v9sgbd6gvmjgp618jm8taotmb1sk9qd2c@4ax.com>
In reply to#51828
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:45:32 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:e4srgbda2kfef4nsmndu1hvjbqkg4iu42i@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:11 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:dn5jk6Fdo6jU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> SG1 <lost@the.races.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> My youngest daughter has gone bush and is 10+ks from the exchange.
>>>>> Helstra will not hookup ADSL as they say the distance is too far for
>>>>> reliable service.
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know of any providers that use the Telstra backbone but 
>>>>> offer
>>>>> better value? I had a look at Aldi but it was no cheaper that the big 
>>>>> T.
>>>>
>>>> That last is just plain wrong, look again.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure she can't get a service with an Optus reseller like amaysim 
>>>> ?
>>>
>>>400+ks west of Brissy only tower is Helstra. We are 15ks west of Toowoomba
>>>and
>>>when my daughter visits from Brissy she has no signal (Optarse) and uses 
>>>the
>>>wifi.
>>>
>>>>
>> You have checked the NBN coverage the are supposed to cover the bush
>> by Satellite?
>> https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/ipstar/coverage.php
>
>Dearer and slower

"NOPE"?

Critical Information Summary
NBN-SB-50-70
Information About the Service
Service Description
The NBN-SB-50-70 Plan is a 
nbn
™ Satellite service with
a Peak Information Rate of 25/5 Mbps.
This Plan has a Normal Data Allowance of 50 GB and a
Bonus Data Allowance of 70 GB.
Minimum Term
The minimum term is thirty days.
Bundling
The offer does not depend on bundling with other
services.
Mandatory Components
There are no mandatory components.
Inclusions, Exculsion And Any
Important Conditions, Limitations,
Restrictions Or Qualifications
nbn co retains ownership of any satellite equipment it
installs as part of the rollout of its network. For
example, the satellite dish, modem and cabling. The
satellite equipment will be serviced and maintained by
nbn co.
For all Plans except Night Owl Plans, Data Blocks can
be purchased at any time to to avoid being speed
limited by SkyMesh or to remove speed limiting that is
already in effect, subject to nbn co’s Fair Use Policy.
Service Reductions by nbn co cannot be removed by
purchasing one or more Data Blocks.
Data Usage is counted in both directions, so if you
download 20 GB and upload 10 GB, that’s counted as
30 GB.
Your Peak Data Allowance can only be used during
Peak Hours.
Your Off Peak Data Allowance may only be used during
Off Peak Hours. Off Peak Hours are defined by nbn co
as between 1:00 am and 7:00 am. The given times
apply to your local time zone.
If you exceed your Normal Data Allowance during a
Billing Period, your Peak Information Rate will be
reduced to 128/128 kbps for the remainder of that
Billing Period (except during Off Peak Hours if you
have remaining Bonus Data available). If you then
increase your Excess Data Usage by placing a
continuous load on the service, your Peak Information
Rate will be progressively reduced. We do not charge
for Excess Data Usage.
nbn co considers that 75 GB or more of Data Usage
during peak hours in any four week period constitutes
a breach of its Fair Use Policy. nbn co considers that
150 GB or more of Data Usage in any four week period
(Peak or Off Peak) constitutes a breach of its Fair Use
Policy.
Certain games and other highly interactive software
(e.g. share trading / live-streaming) which require low
network latency are known to perform poorly (or not
work at all) on satellite broadband services and so
SkyMesh deems the service as provided unsuitable for
those purposes.
Your maximum throughput will be lower than the given
Peak Information Rate for your Plan and can be
affected by: Overheads imposed by Ethernet and other
protocols you use such as TCP/IP, the Internet server
you are accessing, the network between SkyMesh and
the server you are accessing, the network between
SkyMesh and your service, and local factors such as the
performance of your computer equipment including
your network router and wireless network.
If you are not sure whether your equipment can keep
up, please consider a router from our list of 
recommended hardware
.
You may upgrade your Plan as often as you like during
each Billing Period, subject to nbn co’s Fair Use Policy.
Downgrades are effective on your next Billing Day. We
do not charge a Plan change fee.
Copyright © 2016 SkyMesh Pty Ltd — ABN 62 113 609 439
Information About the Pricing
Minimum Monthly Charge
The minimum monthly charge is $124.95.
The unit cost of 1 GB of data within your Total Data
Allowance is $1.04. Your Total Data Allowance is the
sum of your Normal and Bonus Data Allowances.
Please note that one gigabyte (1 GB) is equal to one
thousand megabytes (1,000 MB).
Maximum Monthly Charge
The maximum monthly charge payable is calculated as
the minimum monthly charge payable. There are no
Plan Change fees.
Please refer to the 
https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/nbn/satellite/lts.
php
 for data block information.
Maximum early termination charge
There is no special charge for termination. The
customer may request termination of the service at
any time, however SkyMesh requires 30 days' notice to
process the termination request. A pro-rata invoice
will be raised to cover any days in the 30 day period
which fall after the end of the current billing period.
Other Information
Call and Data Usage Information
Data Usage information can be obtained via 
My SkyMesh.
Dispute Resolution Process
Once purchased, if you're unhappy with the delivered
product or feel that SkyMesh hasn't performed to the
expected level set out in this document and relevant
customer agreements, you may raise a complaint via
the SkyMesh Customer Complaint Resolution Process.
This can be accessed by our complaints email (shown
above), or through our website at 
www.skymesh.net.au/complaints
. In the unlikely event
your complaint is not resolved, handled to your
statisfaction or got the outcome you would have liked,
you may wish to refer your complaint to the
Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman (TIO).
Customer Service Contact Details
Phone
Postal Address
1300 759 637
SkyMesh Pty Ltd
PO Box 255
Fortitude Valley
QLD 4006
Fax
SMS Only
1300 859 637
0458 759 637
Sales
Accounts
sales@skymesh.com.au
8am–6pm Monday to Friday
accounts@skymesh.com.au
8am–6pm Monday to Friday
Technical Support
Complaints
support@skymesh.net.au
8am–8pm Monday to Friday
8am–5pm Weekends & Public
Holidays
complaints@skymesh.net.au
9am–5pm Monday to Friday
All times apply to Australian Eastern Standard Time
TIO Contact Details
Phone
Postal Address
1800 062 058
Telecommunications Industry
Ombudsman Limited
PO Box 276
Collins Street West VIC 8007
Fax
Email
1800 630 614
tio@tio.com.au
TIO Office Hours
9am–5:30pm
Monday to Friday
All times apply to Australian Eastern Standard Time
(AEST) or Australian Eastern Daylight Time (AEDT)
when Daylight Savings Time is in effect.
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Copyright © 2016 SkyMesh Pty Ltd — ABN 62 113 609 439
-- 
Petzl

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#51837

FromPetzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Date2016-04-13 21:17 +1000
Message-ID<amasgbd0sfr14006na0tvg62hmogueh0bl@4ax.com>
In reply to#51836
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 21:06:44 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 18:45:32 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>news:e4srgbda2kfef4nsmndu1hvjbqkg4iu42i@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:11:11 +1000, "SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote:
>>>
full prices here
https://www.skymesh.net.au/services/nbn/satellite/lts
-- 
Petzl

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