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  Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 05:41 +1100
    Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 08:45 +1100
      Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 10:47 +1100
        Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 19:11 +1100
          Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 20:26 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 20:32 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:47 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:53 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 06:48 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-23 21:40 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 06:37 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 10:05 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:08 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:16 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 23:27 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 06:56 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 10:12 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:42 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:07 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:13 +1100
                      Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:42 +1100
                        Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 15:30 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging Fred Smith <fred@smith.com> - 2015-12-24 03:29 +0000
                      Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 14:58 +1100
          Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 23:22 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 06:52 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:48 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 09:38 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 10:46 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:55 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:15 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:32 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 13:35 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 14:51 +1100
                      Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 14:55 +1100
                        Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 16:13 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:02 +1100
                      Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:27 +1100
                        Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 16:14 +1100
                          Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 16:34 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:44 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 16:35 +1100
                Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:39 +1100
                  Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 22:33 +1100
                    Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 05:25 +1100
                      Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 10:01 +1100
                        Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 10:34 +1100
                          Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-25 11:25 +1100
                          Re: Opal fare dodging F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-26 13:58 +1100
                            Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 15:30 +1100
                              Re: Opal fare dodging "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-12-26 15:43 +1100
          Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 11:07 +1100
            Re: Opal fare dodging Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:08 +1100
              Re: Opal fare dodging "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-24 12:51 +1100

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#49512

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:91lm7blri2tiqk6ik24rvie66qp6qbklsm@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 12:55:32 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for feet
>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>
>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether you
>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>
>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were told
>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>
>>You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>$2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>
> Mines connected to credit card $20 top-ups.
>
> Bus for me to Macarthur Square is $1.05 return if I'm back in the hour
> enough for shopping, get off BigW end and walk though Sq catch it back
> with shopping done!
>
> I may go to city once a week, for a day out.
>
> Decided on Bondi Beach yesterday, best fish for ages (Barramundi),
> deep fried with Chips salad and salad ($12 Mon-Thurs) at Bondi Beach
> pub, weather was spitting a bit, off and on, but enjoyed it, the bus
> stops near the pub, and cross the road, Beach side to catch it back to
> Bondi Junction, although you could ride it to Museum station, but bus
> always full, standing room only (not full Campbell Parade Bondi, but
> full's going back.
>
> At Bondi Junction station (to Beach 380, there are others) try to get
> on first, bus is standing room only when it leaves.
>
> Bondi Junction is amazing in itself, all high rise now with more going
> up, very cosmopolitan, LOTS of people.

Didn't think to do that.

>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>
>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>
>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>
>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>
>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are always
>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>
>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked
>>> service.
>>>
> --
> Petzl
> The Christmas tradition and its message of peace and joy is more relevant 
> today than ever before.
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%202 

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#49519

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 15:44:30 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> At Bondi Junction station (to Beach 380, there are others) try to get
>> on first, bus is standing room only when it leaves.
>>
>> Bondi Junction is amazing in itself, all high rise now with more going
>> up, very cosmopolitan, LOTS of people.
>
>Didn't think to do that.

Best to go to Townhall station from Central then cath lift to top and
another lift down for Platform 5 which will take you to  Bondi
Junction

Otherwise at Central Station head for Platform 25 (a long walk)
-- 
Petzl

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#49510

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
> Petzl wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for feet
>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>
>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether you
>>> do or don't there after,
>>
>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were told
>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>
> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only 
> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct debits,I 
> top up with cash at paper shop

Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?

>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>
>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>
>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>
>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>
>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are always
>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>
>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked service.
 

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#49523

Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>> Petzl wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for feet
>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>
>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether you
>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>
>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were told
>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>
>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>
> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>
>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>
>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>
>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>
>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>
>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are always
>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>
>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked service.
>
>
It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.I have had my 
opal card for months now and it still has my original $5.00 in it.
Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government 
made me.Used to just get ticket from machine.

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#49526

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:567bd7f9$0$32554$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>
>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for feet
>>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether 
>>>>> you
>>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>>
>>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were told
>>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>>
>>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>
>> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>>
>>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>>
>>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>>
>>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>>
>>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>>
>>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are always
>>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>>
>>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked 
>>>> service.

> It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.

They don't have your account details if you top up manually electronically.

> I have had my opal card for months now and it still has my original $5.00 
> in it.

Certainly in that situation it doesn't make much difference.

> Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government made 
> me.Used to just get ticket from machine.

That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with. 

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#49528

On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:25:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:567bd7f9$0$32554$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com...
>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for feet
>>>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>>>
>>>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were told
>>>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>>>
>>>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>>
>>> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>>>
>>>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>>>
>>>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>>>
>>>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are always
>>>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked 
>>>>> service.
>
>> It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.
>
>They don't have your account details if you top up manually electronically.
>
>> I have had my opal card for months now and it still has my original $5.00 
>> in it.
>
>Certainly in that situation it doesn't make much difference.
>
>> Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government made 
>> me.Used to just get ticket from machine.
>
>That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with. 

I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.

Fact is if you don't, as example, with power supply mines "Origin"
they charge you for not "doing it" online 33% more, as well as charge
"$" (not sure, with Testra it's $10) to post a bill!

My bills are mainly emailed to me and paid for with/by online bank,

Merry Christmas ALL
-- 
Petzl

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#49530

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:0mto7bd2m0pe8javm02fi00makl888nnqt@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:25:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:567bd7f9$0$32554$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for 
>>>>>>>> feet
>>>>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>>>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>>>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were 
>>>>>> told
>>>>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>>>>
>>>>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>>>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>>>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>>>
>>>> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>>>>
>>>>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>>>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>>>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are 
>>>>>> always
>>>>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>>>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>>>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>>>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>>>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked
>>>>>> service.
>>
>>> It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.
>>
>>They don't have your account details if you top up manually 
>>electronically.
>>
>>> I have had my opal card for months now and it still has my original 
>>> $5.00
>>> in it.
>>
>>Certainly in that situation it doesn't make much difference.
>>
>>> Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government 
>>> made
>>> me.Used to just get ticket from machine.
>>
>>That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with.
>
> I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
> I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.

I have never cared and if I did plan to murder someone
etc would just get an anonymous Opal card to travel with
to do the deed or get away from the scene of the crime.

Be interesting to see what the cops would do
if the Cronulla riots happened again today tho
with the Opal records. Hopefully the most stupid
of the terrorists are being tracked as we type.

> Fact is if you don't, as example, with power supply mines
> "Origin" they charge you for not "doing it" online 33% more,

Didn't notice that because I have always done it online
as soon as it was possible. In fact when Telecom started
to allow you to pay your phone bill on the phone with
an automated service which I automated at my end too,
the first day it went live, they were so swamped by people
using it that I ended up with a human and she was pretty
pissed off when I said I wanted to use the new machine.

> as well as charge "$" (not sure, with Testra it's $10) to post a bill!

Yeah, but that one does make sense because those who insist
on the dinosaur stuff should be paying the cost of posting them
a bill when it can be done much more cheaply electronically.

> My bills are mainly emailed to me and paid for with/by online bank,

Me too.

> Merry Christmas ALL

Even the muslims ?

Same to everyone from me, including the muslims and jews and heathens. 

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#49531

On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 10:34:35 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:0mto7bd2m0pe8javm02fi00makl888nnqt@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:25:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:567bd7f9$0$32554$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for 
>>>>>>>>> feet
>>>>>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down from
>>>>>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have CCTV.
>>>>>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for boots
>>>>>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>>>>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were 
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>>>>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>>>>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>>>>
>>>>> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>>>>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>>>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>>>>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are 
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>>>>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric wheel
>>>>>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>>>>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>>>>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked
>>>>>>> service.
>>>
>>>> It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.
>>>
>>>They don't have your account details if you top up manually 
>>>electronically.
>>>
>>>> I have had my opal card for months now and it still has my original 
>>>> $5.00
>>>> in it.
>>>
>>>Certainly in that situation it doesn't make much difference.
>>>
>>>> Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government 
>>>> made
>>>> me.Used to just get ticket from machine.
>>>
>>>That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with.
>>
>> I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
>> I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.
>
>I have never cared and if I did plan to murder someone
>etc would just get an anonymous Opal card to travel with
>to do the deed or get away from the scene of the crime.
>
>Be interesting to see what the cops would do
>if the Cronulla riots happened again today tho
>with the Opal records. Hopefully the most stupid
>of the terrorists are being tracked as we type.
>
More concerned about "Indian" scammers getting my records, Telstra
every now and them make them public worldwide.
Then there is Ielstra calling" scams 
http://bit.ly/1JyfVKt
None yet today the Hindus must be having Christmas?

>> Fact is if you don't, as example, with power supply mines
>> "Origin" they charge you for not "doing it" online 33% more,
>
>Didn't notice that because I have always done it online
>as soon as it was possible. 

With Power you have to check evey so often, and ask "I'm shopping
around" they will immediately cut your price (did for me). 
Just some mind game they play, penalizing loyalty I suppose?

>In fact when Telecom started
>to allow you to pay your phone bill on the phone with
>an automated service which I automated at my end too,
>the first day it went live, they were so swamped by people
>using it that I ended up with a human and she was pretty
>pissed off when I said I wanted to use the new machine.
>
Only had a less than "quarter pie" Murdoch Internet connection for
around two years, but yes I have no problem using Bpay and getting
bill by email.

>> as well as charge "$" (not sure, with Testra it's $10) to post a bill!
>
>Yeah, but that one does make sense because those who insist
>on the dinosaur stuff should be paying the cost of posting them
>a bill when it can be done much more cheaply electronically.
>
Wouldn't happen if Australia Post had someone on the ball, instead of
thinking people particularly businesses won't look at ways around post
cost hikes. 
It's easier too, instead of going to a queue to pay a bill

>> My bills are mainly emailed to me and paid for with/by online bank,
>
>Me too.
>
>> Merry Christmas ALL
>
>Even the muslims ?

They ban Christmas and have a "Fatwa" on everyone wishing it.
They are after you Rod
http://bit.ly/1JyeP1h 
GET OUT of the house NOW!!!!
<http://bit.ly/1Jyga8n>

Most of the shopping malls enforce it.
This Christmas Carol is now banned in all public schools because some
"religon" is uncomfortable with it.
https://youtu.be/EZe1ftUCIz0
Big hint it's not Christians, Atheists, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists or
Hindus!

>Same to everyone from me, including the muslims and jews and heathens. 

Again Merry Christmas to Christians, Atheists, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhist
and Hindus 

but not Moslems (as they go out of their way to be uncomfortable with,
well, everything).
-- 
Petzl

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#49534

Rod Speed wrote:
>
>
> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0mto7bd2m0pe8javm02fi00makl888nnqt@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Dec 2015 05:25:48 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:567bd7f9$0$32554$b1db1813$19ace300@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:567b5094$0$63769$c3e8da3$38634283@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>> Petzl wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 23:22:15 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Coming back on regular transit train saw a bloke fined $100 for
>>>>>>>>> feet
>>>>>>>>> on seat by HEAVILY armed female cop and Male partner came down
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> upstairs seats, I suspect he was dobbed in as all cabins have
>>>>>>>>> CCTV.
>>>>>>>>> They went straight for him not walk through.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just tap on with your pensioner card and wont make any diff whether
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> do or don't there after,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cops in this case were specifically targeting this loon for
>>>>>>> boots
>>>>>>> on seat in front of him. they didn't check anyone's ticket.
>>>>>>> But yes I have been checked for valid Opal card (Seniors), I were
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> that with this card it just looks if it has cash on it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You still have to have cash on it but pensioners can top up with only
>>>>>> $2.50 at a time.I do not have it tied to a bank account or direct
>>>>>> debits,I top up with cash at paper shop
>>>>>
>>>>> Wota dinosaur. Why do you do it so primitively ?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Does matter with full fare cards)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah I saw a Chinese lady get caught not tapping on tram (full fare
>>>>>>> Opal) she "got away with it" by "me no understand"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also if you tap on , change your mind and tap off without going any
>>>>>>>> where it gives your $2.50 back.Don't ask how I know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So cheap anyhow I wouldn't bother.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Public transport in Sydney is something I would not of believed 10
>>>>>>> years back. Extremely good, Bondi Beach & City buses though are
>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>> full, mine (Campbelltown) are mainly 50% full/empty off peak, air
>>>>>>> conditioned, front door lowers to curb to get on, even electric
>>>>>>> wheel
>>>>>>> chairs can drive on, with a place for them to park.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trains are double deck also air conditioned, talk and show their
>>>>>>> destination announce each stop. The Country train to Macarthur and
>>>>>>> beyond is also comfortable clean, but is pretty full well liked
>>>>>>> service.
>>>
>>>> It is very easy and one less mob with my account details.
>>>
>>> They don't have your account details if you top up manually
>>> electronically.
>>>
>>>> I have had my opal card for months now and it still has my original
>>>> $5.00
>>>> in it.
>>>
>>> Certainly in that situation it doesn't make much difference.
>>>
>>>> Don't use public transport often, only got it because the government
>>>> made
>>>> me.Used to just get ticket from machine.
>>>
>>> That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with.
>>
>> I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
>> I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.
>
> I have never cared and if I did plan to murder someone
> etc would just get an anonymous Opal card to travel with
> to do the deed or get away from the scene of the crime.


It take a special step not widely known to get an anonymous pensioner 
gold card and I still would not trust it.
When you apply they get all your details with centrelink.and stuff is 
linked to the card.
You can apply to remove your info but if you lose it they can not get it 
back to you.


>
> Be interesting to see what the cops would do
> if the Cronulla riots happened again today tho
> with the Opal records. Hopefully the most stupid
> of the terrorists are being tracked as we type.
>
>> Fact is if you don't, as example, with power supply mines
>> "Origin" they charge you for not "doing it" online 33% more,
>
> Didn't notice that because I have always done it online
> as soon as it was possible. In fact when Telecom started
> to allow you to pay your phone bill on the phone with
> an automated service which I automated at my end too,
> the first day it went live, they were so swamped by people
> using it that I ended up with a human and she was pretty
> pissed off when I said I wanted to use the new machine.
>
>> as well as charge "$" (not sure, with Testra it's $10) to post a bill!
>
> Yeah, but that one does make sense because those who insist
> on the dinosaur stuff should be paying the cost of posting them
> a bill when it can be done much more cheaply electronically.
>
>> My bills are mainly emailed to me and paid for with/by online bank,
>
> Me too.
>
>> Merry Christmas ALL
>
> Even the muslims ?
>
> Same to everyone from me, including the muslims and jews and heathens.

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#49536

On Sat, 26 Dec 2015 13:58:59 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with.
>>>
>>> I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
>>> I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.
>>
>> I have never cared and if I did plan to murder someone
>> etc would just get an anonymous Opal card to travel with
>> to do the deed or get away from the scene of the crime.
>
>
>It take a special step not widely known to get an anonymous pensioner 
>gold card and I still would not trust it.
>When you apply they get all your details with centrelink.and stuff is 
>linked to the card.
>You can apply to remove your info but if you lose it they can not get it 
>back to you.

As a self funded pensioner don't have to "worry" abbout Centrelink
morons.
Although I still had to front them to see what consesions I "might" be
entitled to? They also have access to "your" Australian bank account
but insist on this time wasting "interview" where the answers are
known before you start.

Really have to consider drawing all my money out and taking it to
Saudi Arabia as only Moslems and Turnbull seem exempt from checking!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b14_1215782328
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jT6ldUu4-4
ALL non-Moslems need to buy a gun a civil war is comming!
Vote Coalition, Labor, "Greens" last Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.
-- 
Petzl

"We" are advised to NOT judge ALL Moslems by the actions of a few
lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions
of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
YOU CANNOT STRENGTHEN THE WEAK BY WEAKENING THE STRONG.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons

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#49537

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote 
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote
 
>>>>> That does make sense, no more ticket machines to bother with.

>>>> I supose "they" call it a choice not to do online payments?
>>>> I "assimilated" but have the same concerns "F Murtz" has.

>>> I have never cared and if I did plan to murder someone
>>> etc would just get an anonymous Opal card to travel with
>>> to do the deed or get away from the scene of the crime.

>> It take a special step not widely known to get an anonymous 
>> pensioner gold card and I still would not trust it.

>> When you apply they get all your details with 
>> centrelink.and stuff is linked to the card.

>> You can apply to remove your info but if 
>> you lose it they can not get it back to you.

If I was going to murder someone or do some terrorism,
I'd get another Opal card and use that for the murder in
case they keep track of who got the card in the first place
or can work out who it is by checking the other use of that
anonymous card and pin it on me by using the cameras etc. 
 
> As a self funded pensioner don't have 
> to "worry" abbout Centrelink morons.

You do to get the card that entitles you to 4 free trips a year. 

> Although I still had to front them to see 
> what consesions I "might" be entitled to? 

Basically 4 free trips a year, anywhere in the 
state for the full trip with stops for 12 hours fine. 

Free car rego, but not free CTP insurance, 
Free drivers license. 
Some discounts on power and rates. 
Much cheaper scripts. 

I should get off my arse and do the paperwork, 
its costing me about $1k a year, mostly on the
rego and license and scripts. 

> They also have access to "your" Australian bank 
> account but insist on this time wasting "interview" 
> where the answers are known before you start.

You appear to be able to do it all online now. 
 
> Really have to consider drawing all my money out and taking it to
> Saudi Arabia as only Moslems and Turnbull seem exempt from checking!
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b14_1215782328

Too much hassle in my case and they can see you've done that anyway. 
 

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#49489

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:d0jk7bd9n8ktbbc3u1l0fr4ruto377184s@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 10:47:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:uigj7bp3nrehdpgqif2e5pv2s60cqf3sa3@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 05:41:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>After watching the Opal system on public transport in Sydney
>>>>recently and getting my own geriatrics Opal card basically
>>>>because its free and I'll need one if I ever show up in Sydney
>>>>again any time soon, I did wonder what they do about those
>>>>who don't bother to tap their card before getting on one of
>>>>the things like the light rail trains which don't actually have
>>>>gates which force you to tap your card to get thru the gate.
>>>>
>>>>I did notice with the light rail that the conductor did get
>>>>a few people to wave something at his handheld thing.
>>>>Is that to check if they had tapped their Opal card on the
>>>>pole at the station before getting on the train and they
>>>>will be fined if they haven't done that ?
>>>>
>>>>Didn't notice the conductor doing that with many
>>>>people so the chance of catching fare dodgers isn't
>>>>that great.
>>>>
>>>>Couldn't find anything much with google, just some
>>>>discussion about schemes to trigger the daily and
>>>>weekly cap on what you get slugged.
>>>>
>>>>And presumably with the phasing out of tickets
>>>>completely which happens in days now, they
>>>>wont even have conductors on the stuff like
>>>>the light rail because they wont be selling
>>>>tickets to people like tourists anymore.
>>>>
>>>>Corse they can certainly have ticket inspectors
>>>>do spot checks any time they like.
>>
>>> With Light Rail the "tap on" is on a post
>>> behind where you wait for tram ("no "gate").
>>
>>Yes, that's what I meant.
>>
>>> The "gazzo" inspectors use show if you
>>> have tapped on and or money left on card.
>>
>>> On trains a "squad" of ticket inspectors
>>> randomly go through train checking tickets,
>>
>>Do they check everyone on the light rail train ?
>>
>>Presumably I didn't use it enough to see any of those.
>>
>>Was the conductor who I did see do something with a
>>few passengers instead of actually selling them a ticket
>>checking if they had tapped on at the light rail stop
>>or were those people actually tapping on with his
>>handheld device because they hadn't done that at
>>the post at the stop ?  I cant remember whether he
>>approached them or they approached him.
>>
> Yes,  the conductor sells and checks tickets Opal cards
>
>>> Not yet been checked on Bus but the driver can see
>>> if you tap on, will tell you if it didn't work (although
>>> it glows RED when it fails. My train Station doesn't
>>> have gates just "Tap on/off" posts.
>>
>>OK, I didn't use any of the smaller train stations, just Central
>>and the two airport stations. Didn't use any buses or ferries
>>either. I assumed from the online description that the bus
>>driver would notice if you didn't bother to tap on when
>>getting on the bus but didn't check if the bus bigger bus
>>stops had tap on and off posts like the light rail stops do.
>
> Macarthur had a recent face lift about 3 years ago, I expect this will
> be the "new" format.
> Went to Bondi Beach by Bus/train/bus ($2.50)

Your a bludger on society? LOL 

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#49493

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:07:09 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:d0jk7bd9n8ktbbc3u1l0fr4ruto377184s@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 10:47:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:uigj7bp3nrehdpgqif2e5pv2s60cqf3sa3@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 05:41:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>After watching the Opal system on public transport in Sydney
>>>>>recently and getting my own geriatrics Opal card basically
>>>>>because its free and I'll need one if I ever show up in Sydney
>>>>>again any time soon, I did wonder what they do about those
>>>>>who don't bother to tap their card before getting on one of
>>>>>the things like the light rail trains which don't actually have
>>>>>gates which force you to tap your card to get thru the gate.
>>>>>
>>>>>I did notice with the light rail that the conductor did get
>>>>>a few people to wave something at his handheld thing.
>>>>>Is that to check if they had tapped their Opal card on the
>>>>>pole at the station before getting on the train and they
>>>>>will be fined if they haven't done that ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Didn't notice the conductor doing that with many
>>>>>people so the chance of catching fare dodgers isn't
>>>>>that great.
>>>>>
>>>>>Couldn't find anything much with google, just some
>>>>>discussion about schemes to trigger the daily and
>>>>>weekly cap on what you get slugged.
>>>>>
>>>>>And presumably with the phasing out of tickets
>>>>>completely which happens in days now, they
>>>>>wont even have conductors on the stuff like
>>>>>the light rail because they wont be selling
>>>>>tickets to people like tourists anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>Corse they can certainly have ticket inspectors
>>>>>do spot checks any time they like.
>>>
>>>> With Light Rail the "tap on" is on a post
>>>> behind where you wait for tram ("no "gate").
>>>
>>>Yes, that's what I meant.
>>>
>>>> The "gazzo" inspectors use show if you
>>>> have tapped on and or money left on card.
>>>
>>>> On trains a "squad" of ticket inspectors
>>>> randomly go through train checking tickets,
>>>
>>>Do they check everyone on the light rail train ?
>>>
>>>Presumably I didn't use it enough to see any of those.
>>>
>>>Was the conductor who I did see do something with a
>>>few passengers instead of actually selling them a ticket
>>>checking if they had tapped on at the light rail stop
>>>or were those people actually tapping on with his
>>>handheld device because they hadn't done that at
>>>the post at the stop ?  I cant remember whether he
>>>approached them or they approached him.
>>>
>> Yes,  the conductor sells and checks tickets Opal cards
>>
>>>> Not yet been checked on Bus but the driver can see
>>>> if you tap on, will tell you if it didn't work (although
>>>> it glows RED when it fails. My train Station doesn't
>>>> have gates just "Tap on/off" posts.
>>>
>>>OK, I didn't use any of the smaller train stations, just Central
>>>and the two airport stations. Didn't use any buses or ferries
>>>either. I assumed from the online description that the bus
>>>driver would notice if you didn't bother to tap on when
>>>getting on the bus but didn't check if the bus bigger bus
>>>stops had tap on and off posts like the light rail stops do.
>>
>> Macarthur had a recent face lift about 3 years ago, I expect this will
>> be the "new" format.
>> Went to Bondi Beach by Bus/train/bus ($2.50)
>
>Your a bludger on society? LOL 

Been ripped off all my working life!
Unlike "our" Islamofascist oligarchies!

Vote Coalition, Labor, "Greens" last Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.

Tax office even helped themselves to $40,000 of my super under some
"retrospective" (Labor) tax law, my only notice was from my super
fund.
-- 
Petzl

"We" are advised to NOT judge ALL Moslems by the actions of a few
lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions
of a few lunatics. Funny how that works.
YOU CANNOT STRENGTHEN THE WEAK BY WEAKENING THE STRONG.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7088/germany-weapons

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#49496

"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:84hm7bdjhe289klirn3ddrgu1ii2j4fhas@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 11:07:09 +1100, "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:d0jk7bd9n8ktbbc3u1l0fr4ruto377184s@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 10:47:37 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:uigj7bp3nrehdpgqif2e5pv2s60cqf3sa3@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 05:41:36 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>After watching the Opal system on public transport in Sydney
>>>>>>recently and getting my own geriatrics Opal card basically
>>>>>>because its free and I'll need one if I ever show up in Sydney
>>>>>>again any time soon, I did wonder what they do about those
>>>>>>who don't bother to tap their card before getting on one of
>>>>>>the things like the light rail trains which don't actually have
>>>>>>gates which force you to tap your card to get thru the gate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I did notice with the light rail that the conductor did get
>>>>>>a few people to wave something at his handheld thing.
>>>>>>Is that to check if they had tapped their Opal card on the
>>>>>>pole at the station before getting on the train and they
>>>>>>will be fined if they haven't done that ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Didn't notice the conductor doing that with many
>>>>>>people so the chance of catching fare dodgers isn't
>>>>>>that great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Couldn't find anything much with google, just some
>>>>>>discussion about schemes to trigger the daily and
>>>>>>weekly cap on what you get slugged.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And presumably with the phasing out of tickets
>>>>>>completely which happens in days now, they
>>>>>>wont even have conductors on the stuff like
>>>>>>the light rail because they wont be selling
>>>>>>tickets to people like tourists anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Corse they can certainly have ticket inspectors
>>>>>>do spot checks any time they like.
>>>>
>>>>> With Light Rail the "tap on" is on a post
>>>>> behind where you wait for tram ("no "gate").
>>>>
>>>>Yes, that's what I meant.
>>>>
>>>>> The "gazzo" inspectors use show if you
>>>>> have tapped on and or money left on card.
>>>>
>>>>> On trains a "squad" of ticket inspectors
>>>>> randomly go through train checking tickets,
>>>>
>>>>Do they check everyone on the light rail train ?
>>>>
>>>>Presumably I didn't use it enough to see any of those.
>>>>
>>>>Was the conductor who I did see do something with a
>>>>few passengers instead of actually selling them a ticket
>>>>checking if they had tapped on at the light rail stop
>>>>or were those people actually tapping on with his
>>>>handheld device because they hadn't done that at
>>>>the post at the stop ?  I cant remember whether he
>>>>approached them or they approached him.
>>>>
>>> Yes,  the conductor sells and checks tickets Opal cards
>>>
>>>>> Not yet been checked on Bus but the driver can see
>>>>> if you tap on, will tell you if it didn't work (although
>>>>> it glows RED when it fails. My train Station doesn't
>>>>> have gates just "Tap on/off" posts.
>>>>
>>>>OK, I didn't use any of the smaller train stations, just Central
>>>>and the two airport stations. Didn't use any buses or ferries
>>>>either. I assumed from the online description that the bus
>>>>driver would notice if you didn't bother to tap on when
>>>>getting on the bus but didn't check if the bus bigger bus
>>>>stops had tap on and off posts like the light rail stops do.
>>>
>>> Macarthur had a recent face lift about 3 years ago, I expect this will
>>> be the "new" format.
>>> Went to Bondi Beach by Bus/train/bus ($2.50)
>>
>>Your a bludger on society? LOL
>
> Been ripped off all my working life!

no wonder you're such a twisted bitter westie loser 

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