Re: OT Thunderbird

From	keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers
Subject	Re: OT Thunderbird
Date	2016-11-07 19:33 +1000
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On 11/7/2016 7:51 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/5/2016 8:59 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I like vintage machinery, thats why I play with old aircraft, but old
>>>> computers seem rather pointless to me.
>>>
>>> But I could say that you should stop messing with old aircraft and
>>> spend your valuable time working out improvements to new designs,
>>> to further the good of all humanity. (actually I've got things
>>> to look into in that department myself too, but not with great
>>> expectations)
>>
>> Were I qualified to do so and had the resources, I would do so. Since I
>> I am not so qualified, and am deficient on the resource side I do the
>> next best thing.
>>
>>> The point is that sometimes people like myself enjoy working on
>>> projects that don't have the pressures introduced by trying to
>>> design something that serves the masses and competes with the
>>> latest existing solutions (which in computing today will often
>>> have been developed by numerous individuals, often with
>>> financial support or incentive). There are examples of people
>>> trying to do that with software, and few use their works anyway
>>> because they simply can't independently develop them to the
>>> standards of the "competition".
>>
>> I used to write software in the commercial field, now I do it for my own
>> pleasure, and utility, I may make it available for others if that seems
>> appropriate.
>
> So you're not writing it for the good of the general population
> in the first place, you're writing it for your own purposes. You
> might as well be developing it for a Commodore 64 if that was what
> would give you most pleasure.
>
>>> At least my newsreader (which in reality will probably never
>>> be made) would be used by some people, who would enjoy the
>>> expenience, and Perhaps, unlike if I'd tried to work with
>>> all the technicalities of developing cutting-edge modern
>>> software, I would have enjoyed myself too.
>>
>> No more technicalities these days than in the past, in fact, in some
>> ways, it is easier than it was, modern software has capabilities that
>> the old stuff didn't.
>
> But the level of overall complexity in commonly used software (which
> one would be aiming to replace if one actually wanted to "advance
> things") has also vastly increased. What I'm saying is that if you
> actually wanted to make software that truely contributed to the
> noticeable advancement of computing, or society, (I'm assuming
> something like a new video compression system, new web browser,
> new operating system) it would be outside the bounds of a normal
> personal hobby project. You could try - but you wouldn't get it
> up to the existing standards.
>
> If you want to write software that's just useful, or enjoyable, for
> you then no problem, and sure it's easier than it was. But you might
> just as well be doing it for a Commodore 64, for all the good it might
> do overall.

The Commodore 64 is a dead system, writing software for it is like 
writing a novel in latin.

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Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-27 16:13 +1100
  Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-27 17:24 +1100
    Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-27 16:14 +0800
      Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:57 +1100
        Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-28 13:23 +0800
          Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-29 01:25 +0000
            Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 12:43 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-29 13:58 +1100
            Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:31 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-30 00:01 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 09:07 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-30 21:53 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-31 08:51 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-31 15:38 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-31 19:32 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-01 14:07 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 13:54 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-01 17:52 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 19:30 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-01 22:26 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-02 06:57 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:38 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-02 20:03 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-02 00:39 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-02 00:33 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:25 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-04 13:52 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2016-11-04 07:46 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:27 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:11 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 13:31 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-04 13:56 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 19:28 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-06 20:24 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-06 21:51 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:33 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-07 21:28 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-06 22:27 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:29 +1000
          Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-29 14:09 +1100
            Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 16:33 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-29 17:15 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 18:19 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-29 18:55 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 23:52 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 09:07 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 07:19 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 07:44 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:36 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 11:29 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 13:21 +0800
            Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 07:18 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 07:45 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-29 23:37 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 11:32 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 10:18 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:47 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-30 10:56 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 11:32 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 11:40 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 09:09 +0800

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