Re: OT Thunderbird

From	keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers
Subject	Re: OT Thunderbird
Date	2016-11-01 17:52 +1000
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On 11/1/2016 3:54 PM, Clocky wrote:
> On 1/11/2016 11:07 AM, Xeno wrote:
>> On 31/10/2016 10:32 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 31/10/2016 12:38 PM, Xeno wrote:
>>>> On 31/10/2016 11:51 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>> On 31/10/2016 5:53 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>> In aus.computers Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 30/10/2016 8:01 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>> In aus.cars Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was turned off Firefox after repeated updates didn't fix
>>>>>>>>> stability and
>>>>>>>>> speed issues. I tried Chrome and was blown away by the speed, in
>>>>>>>>> comparison so have used it since, occasionally trying latest
>>>>>>>>> versions of
>>>>>>>>> Firefox and Opera but still not liking them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use Dillo a lot, but I don't expect many people to join me in
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> camp
>>>>>>>> (Windows versions can be a little buggy too). It's pretty much a
>>>>>>>> protest
>>>>>>>> vote against the web that simply doesn't support scripts in the
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> place. It runs well on the Pentium I I'm on now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll have a look at Dillo, I was unaware of it. Pentium 1 btw...
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> keeping it real ;-)
>>>>>>> Once upon a long ago I set up an A500 hacked with a 40Mhz MC68000
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> 8mb RAM running Voyager and IBrowse over an SLIP connection... not
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> I would have the willpower and stamina to do that today ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice. I've had a 33MHz 486 laptop with 8MB RAM browsing the web over
>>>>>> WiFi
>>>>>> (text only though). The determination of sites to force HTTPS meant
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it wasn't completely usable last time I tried it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hah, beat me by 33Mhz! Yeah, it was hopeless.
>>>>
>>>> Did you mean 13MHz?    ;-)
>>>>
>>>> I can envisage a 0MHz computer as being hopeless however.
>>>>>
>>>>>  One of these days I
>>>>>> want to program a newsreader for the Commodore 64. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know when you are done :-)
>>>>
>>>> Even better, if you really want the *thrill* of running a C64, you can
>>>> get emulators that will run on your PC or most of the mainstream OSs
>>>> out
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> (Win)Vice is the one to look for and not just for the C64 but quite a
>>> number of C= systems.
>>>
>>>> You might have more success using this C64 OS
>>>>
>>>> https://www.c64-wiki.com/index.php/Contiki
>>>>
>>>
>>> Old news to both of us I should imagine ;-)
>>>
>> (Relatively) new to me. Never been a C64 fan, you see. A few mates had
>> them back in the days and I had one very briefly too. It didn't fit the
>> task required of it so I was forced, because of educational needs, to
>> get an Apple II, IIc actually, and that did the job but I didn't go much
>> on that either. Didn't go much on Apples at all until the iMac in the
>> early 2,000s. I knew of the emulators and other alternatives because a
>> mate was really into them. But then, he was a real geeky programmer, to
>> be expected really.
>>>
>>>> You might even be able to access usenet using a command line
>>>> alternative, same as when I first accessed Usenet though, for the life
>>>> of me, I cannot see why anyone would bother.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, through a shell account and I think there is a BBS that offers a
>>> access to Usenet and IRC using a C64.
>>>
>>> Why would you want to? Because you can!
>>
>> It's not what I would consider a 'challenge'.
>
> Using an iPhone isn't a challenge and neither is copying and pasting
> some code and programming it into an Arduino.
>
> Working with vintage hardware is often much more of a challenge exactly
> because of the limitations of the hardware.

More likely limitations of the software, compilers and assemblers in 
those days knew nothing about networking, adding the hardware isn't 
exactly challenging.

As hardware goes, using small low powered computers such as the Arduino 
or the ESP8266 are more limited in terms of hardware, especially memory.

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Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-27 16:13 +1100
  Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-27 17:24 +1100
    Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-27 16:14 +0800
      Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-28 07:57 +1100
        Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-28 13:23 +0800
          Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-29 01:25 +0000
            Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 12:43 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-29 13:58 +1100
            Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:31 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-30 00:01 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 09:07 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-30 21:53 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-31 08:51 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-10-31 15:38 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-31 19:32 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-01 14:07 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 13:54 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-01 17:52 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 19:30 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-01 22:26 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-02 06:57 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-02 15:38 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-02 20:03 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-02 00:39 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-11-02 00:33 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:25 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-04 13:52 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2016-11-04 07:46 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:27 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:11 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 13:31 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-04 13:56 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 19:28 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-04 22:59 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-06 20:24 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-06 21:51 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:33 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-07 21:28 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-06 22:27 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:29 +1000
          Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-29 14:09 +1100
            Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 16:33 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-29 17:15 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 18:19 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-29 18:55 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-10-29 23:52 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 09:07 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 07:19 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 07:44 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:36 +0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 11:29 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 13:21 +0800
            Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 07:18 +1100
              Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 07:45 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-10-29 23:37 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Jeßus <j@j.net> - 2016-10-30 11:32 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-01 10:18 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 07:47 +0800
              Re: OT Thunderbird felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-10-30 10:56 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 11:32 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2016-10-30 11:40 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-10-30 09:09 +0800

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