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Re: OT Thunderbird

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On 11/5/2016 8:59 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>> On 11/4/2016 3:56 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2016 11:31 AM, keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 11/4/2016 7:11 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>> In aus.computers keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/31/2016 7:53 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice. I've had a 33MHz 486 laptop with 8MB RAM browsing the web over
>>>>>>> WiFi
>>>>>>> (text only though). The determination of sites to force HTTPS meant
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> it wasn't completely usable last time I tried it. One of these days I
>>>>>>> want to program a newsreader for the Commodore 64. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that it has been done before,
>>>>>
>>>>> Closest I know about is some Email software that sort-of supported
>>>>> Usenet. There's the option of simply connecting to a PC as a terminal,
>>>>> but that doesn't count in my book.
>>>>>
>>>>>> God knows why though.
>>>>>
>>>>> The challenge! Besides some of us like disappearing down a rabbit
>>>>> hole to live in the past. The present keeps annoying me too much
>>>>> anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus if I put the software on a cartridge I'll get near instant
>>>>> booting, so that's better than any PC and its associated OS. The
>>>>> complex use of a floppy disk to temporarily store the groups
>>>>> header files will probably slow it down terribly after that,
>>>>> but my power-on to groups list time will be the best on the
>>>>> block. That I can guarantee.
>>>>>
>>>> There are plenty of challenges to be had with modern systems that
>>>> actually advance things rather than just raking over the past. I've seen
>>>> the huge advances over the 47 years that I've been involved with
>>>> computers, I've had fun with them all but its always time to move on to
>>>> the next one.
>>>
>>> It's whatever floats your boat though. I personally like vintage and new
>>> hardware alike, they need not be mutually exclusive interests.
>>>
>> I like vintage machinery, thats why I play with old aircraft, but old
>> computers seem rather pointless to me.
>
> But I could say that you should stop messing with old aircraft and
> spend your valuable time working out improvements to new designs,
> to further the good of all humanity. (actually I've got things
> to look into in that department myself too, but not with great
> expectations)

Were I qualified to do so and had the resources, I would do so. Since I 
I am not so qualified, and am deficient on the resource side I do the 
next best thing.

> The point is that sometimes people like myself enjoy working on
> projects that don't have the pressures introduced by trying to
> design something that serves the masses and competes with the
> latest existing solutions (which in computing today will often
> have been developed by numerous individuals, often with
> financial support or incentive). There are examples of people
> trying to do that with software, and few use their works anyway
> because they simply can't independently develop them to the
> standards of the "competition".

I used to write software in the commercial field, now I do it for my own 
pleasure, and utility, I may make it available for others if that seems 
appropriate.

> At least my newsreader (which in reality will probably never
> be made) would be used by some people, who would enjoy the
> expenience, and Perhaps, unlike if I'd tried to work with
> all the technicalities of developing cutting-edge modern
> software, I would have enjoyed myself too.

No more technicalities these days than in the past, in fact, in some 
ways, it is easier than it was, modern software has capabilities that 
the old stuff didn't.

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Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-10-31 16:27 +1000
  Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-03 21:11 +0000
    Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 13:31 +1000
      Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-04 13:56 +0800
        Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-04 19:28 +1000
          Re: OT Thunderbird D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-11-04 21:25 +1100
            Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-06 21:54 +1000
              Re: OT Thunderbird D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-11-07 09:36 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-11-07 09:59 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-11-07 11:41 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-11-07 12:35 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-11-07 13:24 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-11-07 21:03 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird "jonz@ nothere.com" <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-11-06 18:40 -0800
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-10 22:30 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-11-11 00:29 +1100
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-10 22:29 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird "Blue Peeler" <woof@barque.org> - 2016-11-10 15:33 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-10 22:22 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-11-11 00:29 +1100
          Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-04 22:59 +0000
            Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-06 20:24 +1000
              Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-06 21:51 +0000
                Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:33 +1000
                Re: OT Thunderbird not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-11-07 21:28 +0000
          Re: OT Thunderbird Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> - 2016-11-06 22:27 +0800
            Re: OT Thunderbird keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-11-07 19:29 +1000

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