Re: Subaru XV indicators

From	Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.cars, aus.computers, aus.comms
Subject	Re: Subaru XV indicators
Date	2016-07-08 13:48 +0000
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Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On 8/07/2016 9:10 PM, keithr0 wrote:
> > On 7/8/2016 7:02 PM, Xeno wrote:
> >> On 8/07/2016 6:24 PM, felix wrote:
> >>> On 07-July-2016 7:40 PM, Xeno wrote:
> >>>> On 7/07/2016 4:16 PM, felix wrote:
> >>>>> On 06-July-2016 2:23 AM, F Murtz wrote:
> >>>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>>>>>> F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> felix wrote:
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>>> you can barely use an Android phone without a Google account.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or  win 10 without a something account.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Well, that was sort-of the case in 8.1 as well, if you weren't
> >>>>>>> smart
> >>>>>>> enough to read the fineprint.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    I have 8.1 without a Microsoft Account, 'upgraded' to 10 without
> >>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>> and rolled back to 8.1 without one.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>    Using an Android Device without a Google Account is much harder,
> >>>>>>> unless you don't need any paid apps and are prepared to re-install
> >>>>>>> apps
> >>>>>>> instead of updating them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a laptop with 8.1 and a tablet with win 10 and android 5.1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> doesn't your phone auto update the OS?
> >>>>
> >>>> It shouldn't. My iPhones, past and present, have never done that by
> >>>> default and there's a reason the default is set that way.
> >>>
> >>> sorry, I didn't mean automatically update the OS. they normally tell you
> >>> there's an update available that you can do. however, with some phones
> >>> you can't update the OS beyond the one in the phone
> >>>
> >> That's why I have an iPhone. You might be referring to Android based
> >> phones. Certainly this is not the case with Apple iOS since my previous
> >> phone was updated right to the latest iOS and, I'm sure, it will be
> >> possible to update it to the next few iOS releases too!
> >>
> >> BTW, my 3 year old iPad has been updated to the latest iOS. Ditto for my
> >> 2008 vintage MacPro though, it must be said, it uses OSX, not iOS.
> >>
> > As does my Nexus Android phone, it gets any OS updates (it has gone from
> > 4.4 to 5.0 to 6.0 to 6.1) and monthly security updates, not to mention
> > updates to applications straight from google.
> 
> Then I fail to see what the issue is. An Android phone I had in the past 
> didn't update (upgrade?) to the latest version, just did updates to the 
> original version but that was a while ago. Things seem to have changed 
> since then if your Nexus does OS upgrades as well as updates.

  'Nexus' is Google's alternative to Apple's iPhone/iPad. I.e. it is
*also* proprietary and *also* a walled-garden (and *also* expensive and
*also* limited (in both range and functionality)).

  Imagine how silly it would be if Microsoft would only support - as
in providing updates and upgrades - Windows on *Microsoft* devices! Did
your brain already explode? Fast forward to Android and you have the
same situation of Google only supporting Android on *its* (Google's)
'Nexus' devices.

  Moral: No, Android support *doesn't* suck, it doesn't *exist*!

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Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-05 13:39 +1000
  Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-05 13:51 +1000
    Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-05 14:05 +1000
      Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-05 14:56 +1000
    Re: Subaru XV indicators D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-07-05 15:33 +1000
      Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-05 17:35 +1000
  Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-05 14:17 +1000
    Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-05 12:06 +0000
      Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-06 02:23 +1000
        Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-06 08:19 +1000
          Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-06 13:08 +1000
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              Re: Subaru XV indicators D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-07-06 14:22 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-06 17:57 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators D Walford <dwalford@internode.on.net> - 2016-07-07 08:49 +1000
              Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-06 17:43 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-06 20:27 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-06 23:58 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-07 08:44 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-07 13:48 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-07 16:12 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-07 16:52 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-07 17:01 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-07 17:30 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-07-08 22:02 +0800
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-09 00:12 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-09 00:22 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-09 08:06 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-09 08:45 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-09 08:54 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-09 09:26 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-09 12:34 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-07-09 10:04 +0800
                Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-09 13:09 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-09 13:18 +1000
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                Re: Subaru XV indicators Noddy <me@wardengineering.com> - 2016-07-09 13:09 +1000
        Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-07 16:16 +1000
          Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-07 19:40 +1000
            Re: Subaru XV indicators felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-07-08 18:24 +1000
              Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-08 19:02 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-08 21:10 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-08 21:40 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-08 13:48 +0000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2016-07-09 00:03 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-09 22:16 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-09 18:11 +0000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2016-07-10 19:24 +1000
                Re: Subaru XV indicators Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-10 18:57 +0000
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