Re: Windows 10

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.politics, aus.tv
Subject	Re: Windows 10
Date	2015-09-30 17:50 +1000
Message-ID	<d71iifFp94uU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"Gordon Levi" <gordon@address.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>>Gordon Levi wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>> > Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote
>>> > > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> > > > Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote
>>
>>----snip----
>>
>>> > > > > If you are using Windows you probably want your computer
>>> > > > > to ask for updates and new drivers from Microsoft.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I don't.
>>
>>You should know, Gordon, that automatic update systems are
>>trojan horses. If you connect your Apple or Windows machine
>>to the internet, the company can take over your machine at
>>any time they choose.
>>
>>That's not to say that they routinely do so, but given their
>>history (*both* companies!) of shonky business practises and
>>cooperation with other entities to the detriment of their
>>own customer's legitimate interests, and given too the demands
>>of such out-of-control spook agencies as the CIA and the NSA,
>>those companies' operating systems should be considered as
>>malware of the worst kind.
>>
>>----snip----
>>
>>> > > > But its completely trivial to not let it send anything
>>> > > > to Microsoft at all.
>>> > >
>>> > > You are correct only if you are willing to disconnect
>>> > > from the WAN.
>>> >
>>> > Wrong. You are free to use anything you like except
>>> > Microsoft.
>>
>>If you *must* have an Apple or Microsoft system, keep it
>>ignorant of the internet (don't give it a gateway address).
>>Power your internet-aware machines with an Open Source
>>system and transfer files to and from your trojanned systems
>>over your LAN.
>>
>>----snip----
>
> Thanks for the advice Ned but I decided long ago to allow Microsoft,
> Google and Ubuntu to spy on me. I have set all of them to do automatic
> updates. It is much easier than worrying about the intrusion
> particularly since I am addicted to Google and to cloud storage. I did
> have a brilliant plan to write a screen saver that did random Internet
> searches but I decided that it would only be effective if most people
> used it.
>
> I note that, unlike Rod Speed, you practice what you preach so I was
> surprised to see that you post with what seems to be your real email
> address. Don't you get a lot of spam?

I get no spam that I ever see on mine.

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