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[Poll] Computing favorities

Started by"Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid>
First post2015-08-19 14:31 -0400
Last post2015-09-23 08:01 -0400
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  [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 14:31 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-08-19 14:53 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 16:18 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 22:06 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-20 11:23 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Trog Woolley <trog@email.fake> - 2015-08-22 14:48 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 09:05 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 16:17 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-19 20:23 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 17:19 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-20 07:07 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities mausg@mail.com - 2015-08-20 08:06 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-20 15:23 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-20 18:00 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:51 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-20 14:08 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-20 18:15 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-20 17:41 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-20 00:40 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 22:06 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ian McCall <ian@eruvia.org> - 2015-08-19 21:29 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-20 11:17 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hankvc@blackhole.lostwells.org (Hank) - 2015-08-22 21:48 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-19 17:08 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 17:24 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 22:04 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-08-25 13:07 +0000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-20 15:56 -0500
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-20 18:18 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-08-20 23:21 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 02:02 +0200
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-19 14:28 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities mausg@mail.com - 2015-08-20 08:13 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-20 11:21 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-20 14:09 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-20 11:51 -0700
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-20 14:22 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-20 12:56 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-20 23:29 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-21 07:26 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-21 23:05 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-20 23:24 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-21 06:07 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 22:00 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-19 22:05 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@cfaj.ca> - 2015-08-19 18:11 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 18:33 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Louis Krupp <lkrupp@nospam.pssw.com.invalid> - 2015-08-19 22:33 -0600
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-20 11:44 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2015-08-20 07:36 +0100
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-08-20 13:25 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2015-08-20 20:11 +0100
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-21 07:02 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-20 19:15 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-21 02:06 +0200
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 14:58 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Jones <djones60@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 06:04 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Daiyu Hurst <daiyu.hurst@gmail.com> - 2015-08-21 06:37 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-08-21 15:10 +0100
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-21 09:20 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-21 16:27 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-21 17:02 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-22 00:40 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 15:54 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:28 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-26 13:44 -0700
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-21 23:37 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-22 08:28 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:28 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-22 08:28 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-22 09:25 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-22 12:13 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-22 08:29 -0700
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-22 14:16 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-22 13:16 -0700
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 08:57 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:36 +1000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 08:55 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:09 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:24 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-25 13:36 -0700
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 20:40 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:07 -0400
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-31 20:31 -0400
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 18:04 -0700
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 16:20 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-25 16:01 -0700
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:04 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-31 20:23 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 20:34 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:29 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-08-23 00:01 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-22 23:22 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-23 07:04 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 10:47 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 09:29 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:04 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 08:54 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-23 15:22 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:23 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:25 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 19:12 -0400
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:24 +0200
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-24 05:24 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-22 14:10 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-23 01:01 +0200
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-22 16:48 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 15:58 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-25 06:52 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-25 12:09 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:14 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-08-26 21:56 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-26 19:03 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 23:41 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:00 +0100
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-27 16:16 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 21:31 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 13:20 -0700
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-28 15:39 -0500
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-28 20:51 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 22:53 -0700
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Jim Thomas" <JT@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 08:59 +1000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-08-21 23:15 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-22 01:46 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2015-08-22 18:01 -0600
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-24 13:58 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-21 12:59 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 09:17 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 16:39 +0000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 13:49 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-23 13:25 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 15:21 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:46 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-08-23 20:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:50 +0200
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 20:38 +1000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 14:48 +0200
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:04 +0100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities lawrence@cluon.com - 2015-08-24 17:33 +0200
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-25 13:34 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-25 13:38 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-25 18:23 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-25 19:46 +0100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:03 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 04:31 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:19 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:52 +1000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:19 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 20:44 +1000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-08-24 19:16 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 20:43 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 08:37 +1000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2015-08-27 20:45 +0100
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-24 05:24 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-24 11:12 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 04:40 +1000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-24 16:47 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:53 +1000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:10 -0700
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-25 13:36 -0500
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-25 14:58 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 14:45 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:37 -0500
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:19 -0400
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities pechter@S20.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2015-08-25 20:32 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:55 -0500
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:16 -0400
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 11:14 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 21:33 +1000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 09:37 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-26 18:48 +0100
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:12 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:09 +0100
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 09:29 +1000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:15 -0400
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:17 +1000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:19 -0700
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:05 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:33 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:13 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:03 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:51 +1000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:00 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 06:30 +1000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 20:38 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 07:36 +1000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:10 -0500
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:42 -0700
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-26 18:58 -0400
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 23:40 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-27 01:13 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-26 21:55 -0500
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 06:53 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:11 +0100
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:54 -0400
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 19:23 -0700
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 14:19 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-27 12:11 -0700
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 19:20 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:16 -0700
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:08 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 11:32 -0700
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-26 14:59 -0400
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:20 -0400
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 19:12 -0700
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:41 +1000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-27 07:06 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:20 +0100
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 11:32 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:42 -0700
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-27 13:54 -0500
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Trog Woolley <trog@email.fake> - 2015-08-29 17:13 -0500
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:42 +1000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-28 02:10 +0000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:06 -0500
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-27 14:38 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-26 13:33 -0500
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:26 -0400
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:23 +0100
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 11:30 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-27 14:35 +0200
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-27 14:17 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-27 10:33 -0700
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-27 11:36 -0700
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2015-08-27 12:27 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 16:46 +0100
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-27 16:10 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 17:49 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:17 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 14:21 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-27 14:23 +0000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 15:39 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:53 -0700
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:51 +1000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-11 18:47 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-09-12 11:23 +1000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-12 13:24 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 07:54 -0700
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-28 19:16 +0100
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 12:22 -0700
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-28 19:48 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-08-29 17:50 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-30 06:56 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-30 14:58 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 06:35 +1000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 06:10 +1000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-28 19:31 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 05:57 +1000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-29 08:59 -0500
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-30 05:35 +1000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-30 14:58 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 16:02 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-31 12:09 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 14:48 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 10:03 -0700
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 10:07 -0700
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-31 17:30 +0000
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 11:26 -0700
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:11 +0000
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 14:22 -0700
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-31 12:21 -0700
                                                        Response time Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-15 17:23 -0400
                                                          Re: Response time Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-09-15 22:30 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2015-08-31 16:20 -0700
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-01 12:50 +0000
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 05:19 +1000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 04:59 +1000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-15 16:19 -0400
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-16 12:54 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2015-08-30 10:41 -0700
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-16 13:01 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-17 08:29 -0400
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 06:38 +1000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 04:54 +1000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 06:11 +1000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:19 +1000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 04:43 +1000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:39 -0700
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 18:09 +0100
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 13:51 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-28 08:40 +0100
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-29 14:54 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-29 20:12 +0100
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-29 15:21 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-29 19:30 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-29 22:10 -0400
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-30 05:22 +0100
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-30 06:51 +0100
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-30 14:58 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-30 16:02 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-30 14:06 -0400
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-31 06:43 +1000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-02 15:03 -0500
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 14:02 -0700
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 22:46 -0700
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-03 09:36 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-03 07:29 -0700
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-03 20:01 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-03 13:25 -0700
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-09-03 21:53 +0100
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-04 10:58 +0000
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-04 18:17 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-09-03 15:41 -0700
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-08 10:28 -0700
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-09 00:39 +0000
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-08 20:56 -0700
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-24 13:02 -0400
                                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-25 12:59 +0000
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-09-09 10:12 +0000
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) - 2015-09-10 08:35 +0100
                                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:26 -0400
                                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:27 -0400
                                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-15 18:28 -0400
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-09-09 07:02 -0500
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-09-09 14:40 +0000
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-09 07:02 -0700
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-09 15:41 +0100
                                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name> - 2015-09-09 17:59 +0200
                                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-09-10 11:17 +0100
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-30 16:42 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-09-02 14:56 -0500
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 17:25 -0500
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 13:48 +0000
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 13:51 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-31 18:17 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-31 16:04 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-31 19:12 +0100
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-31 13:42 -0500
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 18:53 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-09-28 12:21 -0400
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-09-29 12:32 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-09-30 15:34 -0400
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> - 2015-10-01 01:38 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hankvc@blackhole.lostwells.org (Hank) - 2015-10-01 16:27 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-10-01 15:21 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities rpw3@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) - 2015-10-02 03:34 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-10-02 13:11 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 07:32 -0700
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-10-02 13:46 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-10-02 13:09 -0700
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-06 19:44 -0400
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 19:10 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 20:09 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-31 21:00 +0000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-31 12:15 -0700
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-31 20:31 +0100
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-31 19:41 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-31 22:04 -0500
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-09-01 18:46 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-09-03 00:17 +0200
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:10 -0700
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-09-02 08:05 -0700
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 21:21 +0000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 05:42 +1000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:59 -0400
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:02 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:49 -0500
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:15 -0400
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-27 15:35 -0500
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-24 23:09 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 09:43 +1000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 06:55 +0000
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 17:19 +1000
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 09:10 +0000
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 19:23 +1000
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 11:26 +0000
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:43 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 15:01 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:22 -0500
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:39 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:18 -0500
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-31 20:38 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:35 +1000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:37 -0400
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:27 -0400
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:36 -0700
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:32 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-24 16:52 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:16 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 12:22 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:41 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 18:47 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 15:16 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:18 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:31 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:55 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:53 +1000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:18 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:28 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-24 12:40 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 13:18 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 04:34 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-23 22:39 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:16 +0000
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 10:34 +0100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:58 +0000
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-08-24 13:04 +0100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:09 +0100
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 14:52 +0100
                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 16:41 +0100
                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0100
                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:32 -0700
                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-25 07:16 +0100
                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-07 18:38 -0400
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-07 19:26 -0500
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 08:46 +0200
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-08 21:50 +0200
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 13:28 +0000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 10:25 -0400
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-09 18:07 +0300
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 11:24 -0400
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-09 10:55 -0500
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 12:18 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-09 20:49 +0100
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:42 -0500
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 15:45 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-09 17:32 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-09 19:20 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 19:32 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-09 15:36 -0400
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 20:56 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-10 16:21 +0100
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2015-10-09 17:51 -0400
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-09 22:51 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-09 22:55 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities David Hume <David.Hume@example.com> - 2015-10-10 04:27 +0100
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-10-10 09:57 +0100
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-10 13:57 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:05 -0500
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 00:30 -0400
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 09:01 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 03:38 -0700
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 11:22 +0000
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:13 -0500
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 23:57 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:24 -0400
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:33 -0400
                                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-10 20:20 +0300
                                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 15:22 -0400
                                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-11 09:39 +0100
                                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:23 -0400
                                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-11 17:56 +0000
                                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 14:18 -0400
                                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 12:24 -0700
                                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-12 00:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-12 07:17 +0000
                                                        OT: systemd (was: [Poll] Computing favorities)     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 10:44 -0700
                                                          Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 15:29 -0400
                                                          Re: OT: systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-10 22:31 +0300
                                                            Re: OT: systemd Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-11 09:41 +0100
                                                              OT: Wayland (was: systemd)     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 09:06 -0700
                                                                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:31 -0400
                                                                  Re: OT: Wayland     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-11 10:36 -0700
                                                                    Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 14:15 -0400
                                                                      Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-11 19:53 -0300
                                                                        Re: OT: Wayland Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-12 02:45 +0200
                                                                          Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 22:43 -0400
                                                                            Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-12 02:58 -0300
                                                                              Re: OT: Wayland Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-12 08:34 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 08:28 -0400
                                                                                Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 00:58 -0300
                                                                                  Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 13:21 +0000
                                                                                    Re: OT: Wayland Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-13 14:07 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT: Wayland Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-10-13 16:55 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT: Wayland Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2015-10-13 13:24 -0300
                                                                                      Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-13 17:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-13 16:09 -0400
                                                                                          Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 13:07 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 09:20 -0400
                                                                                              Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:26 +0000
                                                                                                Re: OT: Wayland Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-10-14 16:41 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 15:50 +0000
                                                                                                Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 10:47 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 15:52 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-14 12:59 -0400
                                                                                            Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-14 14:45 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT: Wayland scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-14 14:32 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-12 13:05 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT: Wayland Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-12 08:31 -0400
                                                                                Re: OT: Wayland Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-10-12 13:38 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT: Wayland Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-12 16:41 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT: Wayland Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0200
                                                                        Re: OT: Wayland Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-10-12 05:24 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT: Wayland Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-12 00:19 +0300
                                                                      Re: OT: Wayland Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-11 21:46 +0000
                                                              Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 13:24 -0400
                                                                Re: OT: systemd Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2015-10-12 00:25 +0300
                                                                  Re: OT: systemd Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-11 18:37 -0400
                                                          Re: OT: systemd (was: [Poll] Computing favorities) Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-10-10 19:38 +0000
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:08 -0500
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities andrew@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew Gabriel) - 2015-10-11 17:31 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-10-10 11:23 -0400
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-10-10 17:34 +0000
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2015-10-10 19:28 -0400
                                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-11 07:12 +0000
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 19:45 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-10-10 07:12 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-10 00:39 -0700
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 09:16 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-10 10:11 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:21 -0500
                                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-11 10:55 -0400
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-11 04:45 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "John E. Davis" <jed@jedsoft.org> - 2015-10-12 17:53 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-10 18:01 -0500
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-10 23:57 +0000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 15:03 +0000
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 15:46 +0000
                                            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:30 +0000
                                              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 18:15 +0000
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:57 +0000
                                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-09 20:15 +0000
                                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-10-09 15:09 -0700
                                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-09 20:52 +0000
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-10-08 21:17 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-08 12:07 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 13:15 -0500
                                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-10-08 13:06 +0000
                                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-08 12:29 -0400
                                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-08 12:44 -0500
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-08 15:37 -0500
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-10-08 19:19 -0700
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-10-09 06:26 -0500
                                          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:40 -0500
                                      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-10-09 16:14 +0000
                                        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-10-09 16:46 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 07:29 -0400
                  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
                    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 12:10 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:06 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:02 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 23:35 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> - 2015-10-07 12:19 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-23 15:27 -0400
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:10 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:28 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:27 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:48 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-23 21:32 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:57 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:00 +0100
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:18 +0000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 11:31 -0700
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 12:08 -0700
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 08:22 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:37 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:38 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:54 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:21 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:55 +1000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:41 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:47 +1000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 16:25 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 14:05 -0700
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-17 04:19 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-09-23 08:01 -0400

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#152488

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2015-10-08 13:15 -0500
Message-ID<ilcd1bdfsgh3ono140q4ndo4nmmlqcpq2h@4ax.com>
In reply to#152471
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:07:36 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:

>On Wed, 7 Oct 2015, JimP wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 18:38:35 -0400, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-08-25 2:16 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, I more or less avoided RPN, my maths teacher did have one of those
>>>> HP programmable calculators with the magstripe reader.
>>>
>>> I went through high school using a slide rule, and so
>>> found HP's RPN calculators much easy to use than the infix style.
>>
>> I recently located my Sans and Streife No 311, J.K -3 slide rule.
>> Couldn't find specific instructions for it, but plenty of photographs
>> online. From looking at the leather case, my name is the 3rd or 4th
>> one on there. Two of the lines of ink have been well marked over.
>
>The 12" slide rule I got in a bunch of junk has a leather or 
>pseudo-leather "holster", but it's worn out at the bottom, so if I wear
>it like a sword, I risk losing it.
>
>I think I'd rather have a pocket analog computer.
>
>    Michael

Mine doesn't have a belt loop. The leather holster is in good shape.
-- 
JimP.

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#152442

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-08 05:14 +0000
Message-ID<mv4u3f330md@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152428
On 2015-10-07, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> wrote:

> On 2015-08-25 2:16 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> No, I more or less avoided RPN, my maths teacher did have one of those
>> HP programmable calculators with the magstripe reader.
>
> I went through high school using a slide rule, and so
> found HP's RPN calculators much easy to use than the infix style.

I still have trouble with infix calculators, which seem to be
the only thing you can find these days.  Thank God for dc.

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#152462

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2015-10-08 13:06 +0000
Message-ID<fTtRx.63108$gG1.36447@fx19.iad>
In reply to#152442
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>On 2015-10-07, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-25 2:16 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> No, I more or less avoided RPN, my maths teacher did have one of those
>>> HP programmable calculators with the magstripe reader.
>>
>> I went through high school using a slide rule, and so
>> found HP's RPN calculators much easy to use than the infix style.
>
>I still have trouble with infix calculators, which seem to be
>the only thing you can find these days.  Thank God for dc.
>

Any posix shell will support $(( )) which allows arbitrary C-style
expression evaluation.

e.g.

 ksh$ printf "%u\n" $(( 0x87530000000 | (1 << 20) | (0 << 15) | (1 << 12) | 0x114 ))

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#152480

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2015-10-08 12:29 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1510081228320.9383@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#152442
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2015-10-07, Alan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-08-25 2:16 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> No, I more or less avoided RPN, my maths teacher did have one of those
>>> HP programmable calculators with the magstripe reader.
>>
>> I went through high school using a slide rule, and so
>> found HP's RPN calculators much easy to use than the infix style.
>
> I still have trouble with infix calculators, which seem to be
> the only thing you can find these days.  Thank God for dc.
>
I thought there were even some calculators that could switch between
either mode.

The real problem is that while a calculator with way more functions than 
the HP-35 can be had for about ten dollars, but if you want RPN the 
selection is more limited, and costs a lot more.

   Michael

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#152485

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-10-08 12:44 -0500
Message-ID<d7nobmFdc08U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152480
"Michael Black" wrote:

> The real problem is that while a calculator with way more functions than 
> the HP-35 can be had for about ten dollars, but if you want RPN the 
> selection is more limited, and costs a lot more.

I have an HP-35 but it has been in storage ever since the battery gave up so 
I can't look at it.  But, from memory, the only added math function is 
factorial.  There is a lot of statistical stuff, which I never use, on my 
TI-30Xa, which is what I normally use.  I also have the early HP financial 
calculator and it's functional but it has no trig functions and so it's 
pretty useless to me.

I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those a 
few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have 
fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation 
are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.

Oops, I see my TI-30 has a key labeled 'HYP' so that sounds like added math, 
too. 

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#152513

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-08 15:37 -0500
Message-ID<mv6k1m$qu5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152485
\"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:d7nobmFdc08U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Michael Black" wrote:
>
>> The real problem is that while a calculator with way more functions than 
>> the HP-35 can be had for about ten dollars, but if you want RPN the 
>> selection is more limited, and costs a lot more.
>
> I have an HP-35 but it has been in storage ever since the battery gave up 
> so I can't look at it.  But, from memory, the only added math function is 
> factorial.  There is a lot of statistical stuff, which I never use, on my 
> TI-30Xa, which is what I normally use.  I also have the early HP financial 
> calculator and it's functional but it has no trig functions and so it's 
> pretty useless to me.
>
> I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those a 
> few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have 
> fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation 
> are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.
>
> Oops, I see my TI-30 has a key labeled 'HYP' so that sounds like added 
> math, too.

The HYP key gives you access to the hyperbolic trig functions.

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152527

FromGene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net>
Date2015-10-08 19:19 -0700
Message-ID<nv8e1bt31slohfj4emntjk7cg5tfkjs0nv@4ax.com>
In reply to#152485
On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:44:21 -0500, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
wrote:

[snip]

>I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those a 
>few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have 
>fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation 
>are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.

     The N is for "notation".

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

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#152537

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2015-10-09 06:26 -0500
Message-ID<d7pmjiFs383U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#152527
"Gene Wirchenko" wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:44:21 -0500, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those a
>>few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have
>>fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation
>>are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.
>
>     The N is for "notation".

I was noting the similarity between reverse and negation, since reverse is 
not a common trigger word for me. I meant no involvement of the N in RPN. 
People often use negation when trying to say something without actually 
saying it. Made up example: "The NEXT computer was not without its 
successes."  I have to sit and fuss with it to see what the guy is trying to 
say. So I was trying to point out the similarity between reveres and 
negation.  I hadn't noticed the leading 'N', it was just coincidental..

The calculator was nice because it was dead easy for me to add new 
functions; of course that didn't help anyone else. 

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#152591

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-09 16:40 -0500
Message-ID<mv9c3u$6pa$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152537
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:d7pmjiFs383U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Gene Wirchenko" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2015 12:44:21 -0500, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those 
>>>a
>>>few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have
>>>fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation
>>>are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.
>>
>>     The N is for "notation".
>
> I was noting the similarity between reverse and negation, since reverse is 
> not a common trigger word for me. I meant no involvement of the N in RPN. 
> People often use negation when trying to say something without actually 
> saying it. Made up example: "The NEXT computer was not without its 
> successes."  I have to sit and fuss with it to see what the guy is trying 
> to say. So I was trying to point out the similarity between reveres and 
> negation.  I hadn't noticed the leading 'N', it was just coincidental..
>
> The calculator was nice because it was dead easy for me to add new 
> functions; of course that didn't help anyone else.

The "N" in "RPN" is a trailing "N"... unless you are dyslexic.

I don't see how "The NEXT computer was not without its  successes." 
qualifies as a "reverse negation".  I think a "reverse negation" is more 
like:

"Each bite of the meal was better than the next."

-- 

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com

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#152550

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2015-10-09 16:14 +0000
Message-ID<mv8p5n0uc1@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#152485
On 2015-10-08, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:

> I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those a 
> few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have 
> fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation 
> are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.

In _The Devil's DP Dictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle defines "shilop" as
"reverse Polish" (also known as zciweisakul if you have a character
set that includes that L with a little slash through it).

-- 
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#152593

From"Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com>
Date2015-10-09 16:46 -0500
Message-ID<mv9cgj$81q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#152550
"Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote in message 
news:mv8p5n0uc1@news7.newsguy.com...
> On 2015-10-08, Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I wrote an RPN calculator for the Atari ST but I got rid of all of those 
>> a
>> few years ago, it was a fun program to write. I wonder if RPN would have
>> fared better if it didn't have an off-putting name?  Reverse and negation
>> are off-putting words in my mind, Polish sounds like it might be a joke.
>
> In _The Devil's DP Dictionary_, Stan Kelly-Bootle defines "shilop" as
> "reverse Polish" (also known as zciweisakul if you have a character
> set that includes that L with a little slash through it).
>

To be entirely consistent, you'd need to make it "hsilop", which is Polish 
spelled backward. "shilop" does *not* quite get it.

--

numerist at aquaporin4 dot com 

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#150276

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-08-24 07:29 -0400
Message-ID<mrev6q$al3$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#150244
On 23/08/2015 5:39 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
> <snip>
>>
>> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did people
>> buy their products?
>
> Huge numbers had no idea they were buying it at all.  They either bought
> a Mac and could not read the documents the boss sent at the weekend, or
> they bought a "PC" and could.  In neither case was buying the software a
> conscious act, let alone a choice.
>

They bought a solution. In other words it was like buying a car
complete with wheels.

w..

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#150282

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
Message-ID<365098951462115081.807459peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#150276
Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
> On 23/08/2015 5:39 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> writes:
>> <snip>
>>> 
>>> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did people
>>> buy their products?
>> 
>> Huge numbers had no idea they were buying it at all.  They either bought
>> a Mac and could not read the documents the boss sent at the weekend, or
>> they bought a "PC" and could.  In neither case was buying the software a
>> conscious act, let alone a choice.
>> 
> 
> They bought a solution. In other words it was like buying a car
> complete with wheels.
> 

With two flat tires ;-)

-- 
Pete

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#150299

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-08-24 12:10 -0400
Message-ID<mrffmg$lp1$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#150282
On 24/08/2015 9:20 AM, Peter Flass wrote:
> Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:

>>
>> They bought a solution. In other words it was like buying a car
>> complete with wheels.
>>
>
> With two flat tires ;-)
>
:) w..

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#150250

FromAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Date2015-08-24 00:06 +0100
Message-ID<usudnZqrGrVDzEfInZ2dnUU78fGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#150226
On 23/08/2015 20:16, Walter Banks wrote:
> On 23/08/2015 2:47 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>> Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>>> On 23/08/2015 12:39 PM, Huge wrote:
>>>> On 2015-08-23, Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 19/08/2015 2:31 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>>>>>> I just thought I'd post a poll out of curiosity about computing
>>>>>> legends. I think my all time favorite is Dennis Ritchie. Unixes
>>>>>> and their descendants all the *nixs seem to have derived from his
>>>>>> work. And I must mention Ken Thompson too. Unix might have been
>>>>>> his idea. And C. That's definately Richie. RIP Dennis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else have any favorites or legends to mention? Oh yes I
>>>>>> consider Babbage a pioneer too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Add two other people both some love to hate, Bill Gates and Steve
>>>>> Jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Both had particularly bold thinking which pushed the concept of
>>>>> personal computers forward. (they both became rich and they both
>>>>> made a lot people very rich.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jobs -- Steve Jobs was a true visionary that saw the future of
>>>>> personal computers as an appliance long before anyone saw them as
>>>>> anything more than private ownership of a scientific computing
>>>>> machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> The release of the apple][ was a glimpse of his vision. He spent
>>>>> more on the mold design and tooling than apple did on engineering
>>>>> at the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gates -- Love him or hate him (Charlie you can skip this part :)
>>>>> Gates did two things. 1) He recognized that personal computing
>>>>> support could be a business and he set the bar high enough so the
>>>>> second tier development houses could develop new ideas and make a
>>>>> living from their efforts. 2) Early on he took some major business
>>>>> risks in at the time was a very small industry. He standardized an
>>>>> evolving operating system that evolved with the industry and
>>>>> technology (I know the same is claimed with *nix)
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran one of our compilers a few days ago on Windows 10 that was
>>>>> compiled in 1991 to run on MSDOS. (Ran the 1991 executable on a 7
>>>>> inch windows tablet no less)
>>>>>
>>>>> Both Jobs and Gates did things that set standards of computer
>>>>> usage that have been widely copied by the open source folks. Both
>>>>> brought innovation to the industry and indirectly encouraged
>>>>> innovation technical and financial investment by thinking out of
>>>>> the box. Both Mircosoft and apple are littered with company
>>>>> threatening failures of ideas tried and failed.
>>>>>
>>>>> For that reason I believe they should be included in this list.
>>>>
>>>> You're entitled to your view, but I disagree with virtually every
>>>> word you've written.
>>>>
>>> With the same level of respect post the counter opinion details.
>>>
>>> Neither were in the position to force customers to use their product.
>>> They didn't sell products based on price alone. Sales volume is an
>>> interesting way to keep score. They both have had products that were
>>> widely copied. Why do people buy their products then?
>>>
>>
>> Micro$oft used a lot of illegal marketing tactics to force windoze down
>> everyone's throat.  OS/2 was at least twice as good but IBM lacked the
>> extortionate tactics to win OUT.
>>
>
> You were you forced to buy MS products. There is no doubt that MS was
> agressive, more than say Bell or AT&T? Look at the bigger picture. Why
> were they able to sell software or services. SUN copied Microsoft office
> for example.
>
> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did people
> buy their products?
>
> w..

Unix was too complex for the general public to set up. Microsoft had a 
clause in its contracts that said if a company sold X86 hardware then 
the company had to pay a licence fee to Microsoft even if there was no 
Microsoft software present. This made CP/M86 too expensive.

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#150255

From"Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com>
Date2015-08-24 13:02 +1000
Message-ID<d3vfq8F9fheU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#150250

"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:usudnZqrGrVDzEfInZ2dnUU78fGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 23/08/2015 20:16, Walter Banks wrote:
>> On 23/08/2015 2:47 PM, Peter Flass wrote:
>>> Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23/08/2015 12:39 PM, Huge wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-23, Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/08/2015 2:31 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>>>>>>> I just thought I'd post a poll out of curiosity about computing
>>>>>>> legends. I think my all time favorite is Dennis Ritchie. Unixes
>>>>>>> and their descendants all the *nixs seem to have derived from his
>>>>>>> work. And I must mention Ken Thompson too. Unix might have been
>>>>>>> his idea. And C. That's definately Richie. RIP Dennis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone else have any favorites or legends to mention? Oh yes I
>>>>>>> consider Babbage a pioneer too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Add two other people both some love to hate, Bill Gates and Steve
>>>>>> Jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both had particularly bold thinking which pushed the concept of
>>>>>> personal computers forward. (they both became rich and they both
>>>>>> made a lot people very rich.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jobs -- Steve Jobs was a true visionary that saw the future of
>>>>>> personal computers as an appliance long before anyone saw them as
>>>>>> anything more than private ownership of a scientific computing
>>>>>> machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The release of the apple][ was a glimpse of his vision. He spent
>>>>>> more on the mold design and tooling than apple did on engineering
>>>>>> at the time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gates -- Love him or hate him (Charlie you can skip this part :)
>>>>>> Gates did two things. 1) He recognized that personal computing
>>>>>> support could be a business and he set the bar high enough so the
>>>>>> second tier development houses could develop new ideas and make a
>>>>>> living from their efforts. 2) Early on he took some major business
>>>>>> risks in at the time was a very small industry. He standardized an
>>>>>> evolving operating system that evolved with the industry and
>>>>>> technology (I know the same is claimed with *nix)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran one of our compilers a few days ago on Windows 10 that was
>>>>>> compiled in 1991 to run on MSDOS. (Ran the 1991 executable on a 7
>>>>>> inch windows tablet no less)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both Jobs and Gates did things that set standards of computer
>>>>>> usage that have been widely copied by the open source folks. Both
>>>>>> brought innovation to the industry and indirectly encouraged
>>>>>> innovation technical and financial investment by thinking out of
>>>>>> the box. Both Mircosoft and apple are littered with company
>>>>>> threatening failures of ideas tried and failed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For that reason I believe they should be included in this list.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're entitled to your view, but I disagree with virtually every
>>>>> word you've written.
>>>>>
>>>> With the same level of respect post the counter opinion details.
>>>>
>>>> Neither were in the position to force customers to use their product.
>>>> They didn't sell products based on price alone. Sales volume is an
>>>> interesting way to keep score. They both have had products that were
>>>> widely copied. Why do people buy their products then?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Micro$oft used a lot of illegal marketing tactics to force windoze down
>>> everyone's throat.  OS/2 was at least twice as good but IBM lacked the
>>> extortionate tactics to win OUT.
>>>
>>
>> You were you forced to buy MS products. There is no doubt that MS was
>> agressive, more than say Bell or AT&T? Look at the bigger picture. Why
>> were they able to sell software or services. SUN copied Microsoft office
>> for example.
>>
>> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did people
>> buy their products?
>>
>> w..
>
> Unix was too complex for the general public to set up. Microsoft had a 
> clause in its contracts that said if a company sold X86 hardware then the 
> company had to pay a licence fee to Microsoft even if there was no 
> Microsoft software present.

No it didn’t. ALL it did was give the operation a better price on
the licenses if it paid for a license for all the X86 hardware it sold.

> This made CP/M86 too expensive.

That as a long time after CPM86. 

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#150257

FromWalter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com>
Date2015-08-23 23:35 -0400
Message-ID<mre3dq$b6f$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#150250
On 23/08/2015 7:06 PM, Andrew Swallow wrote:
> On 23/08/2015 20:16, Walter Banks wrote:
. . . .
>>
>> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did
>> people buy their products?
>>
>> w..
>
> Unix was too complex for the general public to set up. Microsoft had
> a clause in its contracts that said if a company sold X86 hardware
> then the company had to pay a licence fee to Microsoft even if there
> was no Microsoft software present. This made CP/M86 too expensive.

I think it was more like if they wanted a bulk distribution license then
they were to be included on all assembled computers. The fees for doing
this were substantially lower. For mass assembled and distributed
computers this made sense of small assembly shops it wasn't so attractive.

The reason for this was any computer sold would have a valid license and
the assembly shop could say distribute half the computers with licenses.
The auditing problem was which half.

Outside the mainstream retail distribution. Computers without an OS were
relatively easy to obtain.

w..

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#152397

FromAlan Bowler <atbowler@thinkage.ca>
Date2015-10-07 12:19 -0400
Message-ID<mv3ghr$9sl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150226
On 2015-08-23 3:16 PM, Walter Banks wrote:>
> I am not saying MS wasn't predatory. The question is why did people
> buy their products?

One of the reasons was something that IBM had also done.

Their stuff was just good enough to do the job, but actually
required a fair amount of local support.  In a sense they
bred experts on their stuff.

You used to see this in computing centres running OS/360
and some other system (GCOS, TOPS-10, CP-V MCS)
Often the two systems did about the same amount of useful
work but the IBM system had 3-10 times the support staff
(and like cost twice the amount).  However, when new hardware
was need there were a lot more people in the shop that were
personally invested in the ins and outs of OS/360 than
in the other systems.

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#150229

From"Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-08-23 15:27 -0400
Message-ID<mrd6mq$37q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#150224
"Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:862181686462048382.178035peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...

> Micro$oft used a lot of illegal marketing tactics to force windoze down
> everyone's throat.  OS/2 was at least twice as good but IBM lacked the
> extortionate tactics to win OUT.

    Could you elaborate a little more on that? If I am correct OS/2 was kind 
of a joint venture with IBM and MS. I've also heard Gates suggested on the 
new PCs that Kildall's CP/M be involved. Then after their BASIC product 
MS-DOS was on the IBM/PCs.

Bill

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#150254

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
Message-ID<1405550702462071350.179336peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#150229
"Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> wrote:
> "Peter Flass" <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:862181686462048382.178035peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org...
> 
>> Micro$oft used a lot of illegal marketing tactics to force windoze down
>> everyone's throat.  OS/2 was at least twice as good but IBM lacked the
>> extortionate tactics to win OUT.
> 
>     Could you elaborate a little more on that? If I am correct OS/2 was kind 
> of a joint venture with IBM and MS. I've also heard Gates suggested on the 
> new PCs that Kildall's CP/M be involved. Then after their BASIC product 
> MS-DOS was on the IBM/PCs.
> 

Microsoft used their leverage to prevent manufacturers from selling systems
with OS/2 preinstalled.  If someone wanted to do that they threatened to
jack up the price of windows to that manufacturer, which would make their
windows systems non-competitive.  This is supposed to be illegal according
to various antitrust acts, but by the time anyone got a conviction all they
got was a slap on the wrist. 

-- 
Pete

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