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Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP
Date 2026-01-02 05:45 +0000
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 13:34:50 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> On 1/1/26 13:25, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>> The Arpanet started switching over from the old NCP protocol it had
>> been using to this new TCP/IP thing on 1st January 1983
>> <https://www.tomshardware.com/networking/arpanet-standardized-tcp-ip-
on-this-day-in-1983-43-year-old-standard-set-the-foundations-for-todays-
internet>.
>> The transition took six months to complete.
>> 
>> The article says:
>> 
>>      In contrast, the open, scalable, and hardware-agnostic TCP/IP
>>      managed to get a clear run at widespread adoption, and succeeded.
>>      One could say it won - not by being the best protocol designed to
>>      connect everything - but by being the only one.
>> 
>> Why was nobody interested in offering a suitably scalable rival to
>> TCP/IP? Perhaps because in those days companies wanted to monetize
>> everything. I’m sure there were alternative protocols available -- for
>> a price. TCP/IP was the only one whose creators were offering it for
>> free -- no NDAs, no patent licensing, nothing.
> 
> I think the alternatives were X.25 and various "network architectures"
> from different vendors, that all looked like SNA. SNA was a complete
> mess.

For today's trivia hams were some of the early adopters of Linux since it 
supported the AX.25 protocol used in packet radio.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AX.25

The good old days of 1200 baud packet.

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43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 20:25 +0000
  Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 13:34 -0700
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 22:10 +0000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-01-01 15:36 -1000
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-01-01 15:27 -1000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2026-01-01 17:45 -0800
        Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-01-02 13:27 -1000
          Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:11 +0000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:22 +0000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-02 14:08 +0000
        Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:29 +0000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-01-02 08:27 -1000
        Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 04:41 +0000
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:45 +0000
  Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 22:11 +0000
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2026-01-01 15:03 -0800
  Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2026-01-04 16:46 +0100
    Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP - What was the competition Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-04 15:53 +0000
      Re: 43 Years Of TCP/IP - What was the competition Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2026-01-10 17:38 +0100

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