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Re: OT: franchises, was A&P supermarket bankruptcy

From	"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: OT: franchises, was A&P supermarket bankruptcy
Date	2015-08-03 14:54 +1000
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John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote 

>>>> Not sauce, just green chile strips.  And yes, it cost extra.
>>>> I agree, no sense whatever....
 
>> But they have decided that they make more money by 
>> having all their stores identical so you get the same result 
>> whatever store of theirs you choose to use in your travels, 
>> knowing that they have a completely consistent result. 
>> Its never as black and white as you two are claiming. 
 
> That sort of rigidity 

It isn't rigidity, it's just one quite common way of doing business with 
nationwide or close chains that do rely on having their customers 
use their stores wherever the customer happens to be at the time.

> is a strong indicator of bad management.  

No it is not in this case. 

> It's perfectly possible to have strong franchise management and strong
> brand identity and still made adjustments for regional differences.

Yes, but it's harder to do than all the stores doing it the same way,
particularly when the chain has entirely centralised supply systems. 
 
> I have never set foot in an Olive Garden (and have no plans to do so)
> but I gather the tomato sauce they use varies a lot by locale.  In the
> southeast it's a lot like barbeque sauce.

It's just one way of doing business. Some prefer that they can be 
sure of getting what they want whichever particular store they use. 
 
> Howard Johnson was a different case.  They got myopic and never
> adjusted to the world of McDonalds and the like, attempted to deal
> with financial problems by cost cuts that affected product quality,
> and the customers ditched them.  The Friendly restaurant chain, with 
> a similar history (both started from ice cream stands in Massachusetts
> between WWI and WWII) and similar restaurants is still around despite
> a period of mismanagement that led to bankruptcy in 2011.

And plenty of operations that do have all the stores 
identical have been around for a very long time now.

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