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Re: [Poll] Computing favorities

From	Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: [Poll] Computing favorities
Date	2015-08-24 10:24 +0200
Organization	Me, Myself and I
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In article <mrdk18$gfm$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
Walter Banks  <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>On 23/08/2015 5:25 PM, Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-08-23, Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>>> On 23/08/2015 3:22 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>>>> "Huge" <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:d3tg2cFo3emU2@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On 2015-08-22, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-22, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-22, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There was a recent story about this sort of thing, and
>>>>>>>>> it was about people like the guy who started Yahoo and
>>>>>>>>> the guy who started facebook, rather than people who
>>>>>>>>> had done work at a lower stratum, but which was much
>>>>>>>>> more important because being at a lower level.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hear, hear.  I have much more admiration for Jon Postel
>>>>>>>> than Mark Zuckerberg.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, I have nothing buy scorn for Zuckerborg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll take Zuckerberg over Gates any day.  Facebook doesn't
>>>>>> seem to have a BSOD.
>>>>>
>>>>> With Windows 10 the two of them are becoming difficult to
>>>>> distinguish.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard nothing but bad things about privacy concerning
>>>> windows 10. I don't expect to ever have it.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have used W8.1 W10 and a handful of different googles android
>>> sugar coated releases. Google wins the lack of privacy battle hands
>>> down.
>>
>> I'm afraid the argument that "X isn't so bad because Y sucks harder"
>> is pretty hopeless.
>>
>I have to agree. My point was Google and apple have been pretty bad
>about privacy. I have seen real evidence that at least Microsoft has
>become a lot more transparent and appear to have user options that
>control privacy issues.
>
>As much as this sounds like it in this thread I am not defending
>Microsoft / Gates and Jobs as real as some of the issues are there has
>not been a good job of separating fantasy issues from reality.
>
>Prior to 2000 I had a lot of issues with Microsoft windows and MS DOS.
>Unstable and loaded with "issues/ deficiencies / bugs" after 2000 they
>did a lot to address the problems. Windows has been productive and stable.

As long as you aren't bitten by the third party drivers. Microsoft
publicly admits that this is the achilles heel of Windows
stability. They have tried to assert some control, but there are
severe regulatory limits to what they can do.

>We have developed software using windows and MSdos interfaces and those
>products have remained fully functional on windows based computers. Any
>windows executable we have created will run on the current windows
>environment without change.
>
>What I am hearing here is about issues with marketing approaches and a
>distaste for the companies but hard issues in the current context are
>few and far between.

Indeed. 

The worst issue IMNSHO is the long term stability of code. The
*n*x approach to havt stable source code may be the long term
winner here. I can still build & run (with one option turned
on in the Makefile) a 100k line system from a PPOE in 1988.

Where the sailing optimisation system from 2001 will not run
on modern windows. This is the single system I run Windows for, 
so I kept the xp install disks and images of the patched systems.

So I can run XP forever.

-- mrr

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[Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 14:31 -0400
  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2015-08-19 14:53 -0400
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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 16:17 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-19 20:23 +0000
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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-19 17:24 -0400
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  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-19 14:28 -0700
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:29 -0500
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                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:00 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 06:30 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 20:38 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 07:36 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:10 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:42 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-26 18:58 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 23:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-27 01:13 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-26 21:55 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 06:53 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:11 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:54 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 19:23 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 14:19 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-27 12:11 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 19:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:16 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 16:08 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 11:32 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-26 14:59 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:20 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 19:12 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:41 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-27 07:06 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:20 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 11:32 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:42 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-27 13:54 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:42 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-28 02:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 08:06 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-27 14:38 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2015-08-26 13:33 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 15:26 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 11:23 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 11:30 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-27 14:35 +0200
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-08-27 14:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-27 10:33 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-27 11:36 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-27 11:37 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2015-08-27 12:27 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 16:46 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2015-08-27 16:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 17:49 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-27 13:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:17 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 14:21 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-27 14:23 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-27 15:39 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:53 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:51 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 07:54 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-28 19:16 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-28 12:22 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-08-28 19:48 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 06:10 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-28 19:31 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 05:57 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-08-29 08:59 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 04:54 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-29 13:41 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-28 05:19 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-28 13:31 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-29 04:43 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-27 09:39 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-27 18:09 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 13:51 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-28 08:40 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-27 05:42 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-08-27 08:59 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-27 10:02 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-26 02:15 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-27 15:35 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-24 23:09 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 09:43 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 06:55 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 17:19 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 09:10 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 19:23 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-25 11:26 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:43 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 15:01 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:22 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:39 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:18 -0500
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:35 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2015-08-25 15:37 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 16:27 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-26 07:36 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-25 17:32 -0500
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-24 16:52 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:16 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-08-26 04:03 +0000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-24 12:22 -0700
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:41 +1000
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 18:47 +0000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 15:16 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:18 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 17:31 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:55 +0200
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:53 +1000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:18 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-08-24 10:28 +0200
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-08-24 12:40 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 13:18 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 04:34 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-23 22:39 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-24 09:16 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 10:34 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2015-08-24 10:58 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com> - 2015-08-24 13:04 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 14:09 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 14:52 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-08-24 16:41 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0100
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:32 -0700
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-08-25 07:16 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 07:29 -0400
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 13:20 +0000
                Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-24 12:10 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:06 +0100
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:02 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-08-23 23:35 -0400
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-23 15:27 -0400
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 01:17 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 13:10 +1000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:28 -0500
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-08-24 16:27 -0500
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:48 +1000
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-08-23 21:32 +0000
              Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Santo Brown" <sb8743@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 07:57 +1000
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 00:00 +0100
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-08-23 21:18 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 11:31 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-23 12:08 -0700
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 08:22 -0700
  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-08-24 19:29 +0000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:37 -0400
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:38 -0400
        Re: [Poll] Computing favorities     wje@acm.org (Bill Evans) - 2015-08-24 15:54 -0700
          Re: [Poll] Computing favorities hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-08-25 10:21 -0700
            Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-26 04:55 +1000
      Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "Bill Cunningham" <nospan@nspam.invalid> - 2015-08-24 18:41 -0400
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities "hqhy" <hqhy@nospam.com> - 2015-08-25 08:47 +1000
    Re: [Poll] Computing favorities Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-08-24 16:25 -0700
  Re: [Poll] Computing favorities fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 14:05 -0700

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