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| From | moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.computer.security, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server |
| Subject | Re: Better Randomness ? ! |
| Date | 2015-10-28 14:33 +0000 |
| Organization | The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 |
| Message-ID | <n0qmbc$8pt$1@pcls7.std.com> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27{0.50P.Seattle.2015}> <n0om2e$ok6$1@dont-email.me> <chine.bleu-9FF068.13532027102015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <n0or5i$btl$1@dont-email.me> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27{10.41P.Seattle.2015}> |
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Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes: >Professor William_Unruh wrote: >> a program to efficiently find the minimum of an arbitrary function >> is incredibly powerful. >> >> Now the question of course is whether or not the DWave system can >> actually find such minima faster than a classical computer can. >> >> That is still somewhat up in the air. >> And whether their computer actually uses quantum mechanics >> in the process (rather than thermal monti-carlo say). >Better Randomness ? ! I don't think so. >Seriously, _How_ could thermo/quantum randomness be >better than what I've got, on my i7_4790s/Windows_8 PC ? ! >How ? ! Any computer algorithm is just pseudorandomness, "ignorance" as you put it. Dig deep enough into the algorithm and you can _predict_ the next value, although doing so can be extremely difficult. On the other hand, something based on truly random events, such as radioactive decay, is, well, truly random, if implemented properly. <snip crap>
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A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-27 12:50 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 21:18 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 20:49 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 22:06 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 21:44 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-27 13:53 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 21:43 +0000
Better Randomness ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-27 22:41 -0700
Re: Better Randomness ? ! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-28 14:33 +0000
Re: Better Randomness ? ! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 09:36 -0500
Re: Better Randomness ? ! benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 05:56 -0400
Re: Better Randomness ? ! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 10:46 -0400
QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 08:28 -0700
Re: QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 11:48 -0400
RDRAND has numerous problems. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 09:35 -0700
Re: QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-28 16:17 +0000
QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 09:50 -0700
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Re: Better Randomness ? ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-29 19:14 +0000
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Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. "Rice Rocketeer" <ricerocketeer@somemail.com> - 2015-10-28 11:57 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 15:47 -0600
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Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-29 19:19 +0000
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Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-30 15:58 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 22:58 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 22:47 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 23:34 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 17:22 -0600
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 15:46 -0600
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