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| From | Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> |
|---|---|
| References | (3 earlier) <n0om2e$ok6$1@dont-email.me> <chine.bleu-9FF068.13532027102015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <n0or5i$btl$1@dont-email.me> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27{10.41P.Seattle.2015}> <n0qmbc$8pt$1@pcls7.std.com> |
| Subject | Re: Better Randomness ? ! |
| Message-ID | <edf94e286ab256dce6ced654ddf07a22@dizum.com> (permalink) |
| Date | 2015-10-29 19:38 +0100 |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, sci.physics, alt.computer.security, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.privacy.anon-server |
| Organization | dizum.com - The Internet Problem Provider |
Cross-posted to 5 groups.
In article <n0qmbc$8pt$1@pcls7.std.com> moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) wrote: > > Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> writes: > > >Professor William_Unruh wrote: > >> a program to efficiently find the minimum of an arbitrary function > >> is incredibly powerful. > >> > >> Now the question of course is whether or not the DWave system can > >> actually find such minima faster than a classical computer can. > >> > >> That is still somewhat up in the air. > >> And whether their computer actually uses quantum mechanics > >> in the process (rather than thermal monti-carlo say). > > >Better Randomness ? ! I don't think so. > > >Seriously, _How_ could thermo/quantum randomness be > >better than what I've got, on my i7_4790s/Windows_8 PC ? ! > >How ? ! > > Any computer algorithm is just pseudorandomness, "ignorance" as you put > it. Dig deep enough into the algorithm and you can _predict_ the next > value, although doing so can be extremely difficult. Seymour Cray and DEC Alpha designers managed it, AMD too. Intel, well not so much. > On the other hand, something based on truly random events, such as > radioactive decay, is, well, truly random, if implemented properly. There is nothing random about radioactive decay. > <snip crap>
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Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-10-21 14:47 -0700
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Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? meagain <rick0.merrill@gmail.com> - 2015-10-27 15:31 -0400
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 19:47 +0000
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 15:47 -0600
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-10-28 14:49 -0700
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-28 22:23 +0000
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-10-29 19:56 +0100
A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-27 12:50 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 21:18 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 20:49 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 22:06 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 21:44 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-27 13:53 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 21:43 +0000
Better Randomness ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-27 22:41 -0700
Re: Better Randomness ? ! moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-28 14:33 +0000
Re: Better Randomness ? ! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 09:36 -0500
Re: Better Randomness ? ! benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 05:56 -0400
Re: Better Randomness ? ! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 10:46 -0400
QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 08:28 -0700
Re: QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-28 11:48 -0400
RDRAND has numerous problems. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 09:35 -0700
Re: QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-10-28 16:17 +0000
QueryPerformanceCounter() -- Better Randomness. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-10-28 09:50 -0700
Re: Better Randomness ? ! Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-10-29 19:38 +0100
Re: Better Randomness ? ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-29 19:14 +0000
Re: Better Randomness ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-29 13:10 -0700
Re: Better Randomness ? ! benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-10-30 05:45 -0400
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-28 07:07 -0500
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 17:13 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-29 00:27 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-10-28 14:59 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-28 22:21 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 17:14 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-28 16:29 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-29 15:43 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2015-10-29 23:36 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. "Rice Rocketeer" <ricerocketeer@somemail.com> - 2015-10-28 11:57 +0100
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 15:47 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-27 15:38 -0700
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-10-27 22:29 -0400
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 23:02 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-28 10:19 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 17:20 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2015-10-29 18:32 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-29 19:19 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-29 20:46 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-10-30 09:13 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-30 15:58 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 22:58 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-27 22:47 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 23:34 -0600
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-28 17:22 -0600
Re: How Is the NSA Breaking So Much Crypto? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-27 15:46 -0600
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