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Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist.

Date 2015-10-28 17:14 -0600
From GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Newsgroups alt.computer.security, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist.
References (4 earlier) <n0oj9v$c1g$2@dont-email.me> <Jeff-Relf.Me@Oct.27{0.50P.Seattle.2015}> <n0om2e$ok6$1@dont-email.me> <chine.bleu-9FF068.13532027102015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <Vtqdnb1e4My22KzLnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
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On 10/28/15 15:59, Big Bad Bob wrote:
> On 10/27/15 13:53, Siri Cruz so wittily quipped:
>> In article<n0om2e$ok6$1@dont-email.me>,
>>   Peter Köhlmann<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>  wrote:
>>
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> GreyCloud and Rick_Merrill wrote:
>>>>>> Right now, the NSA in Utah is using a new quantum computer to do the
>>>>>> job.  If you hear about talk or reports about experimenting with
>>>>>> quantum computers, then it has already been done.
>>>>>
>>>>> And how many Qbits does it have??
>>>>
>>>> Without looking, I know that
>>>> a real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist.
>>>
>>> And as usual, you are wrong
>>
>> The only commercial quantum computer runs only one program that finds the global
>> minimum of a function.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Wave_Systems
>>
>
> interesting article.  yeah, highly specialized
>
> there are actually different definitions of what 'quantum computing' is.
>   one might be having such a massive computer system that you can
> [essentially] look up the answer to anything, in a single instruction
> cycle.  that would be [for the most part] simulated quantum computing,
> but essentially fitting the definition.
>
> Another [more expected] would be the use of quantum entanglements in the
> various gates and whatnot.
>
> After reading a bit, it seems there's another definition regarding
> 'quantum algorithms' and 'quantum gates'.  That seemed interesting
> enough in that quantum gates are supposed to be 'reversible' like
> standard math ops, as opposed to 'irreversible' like matrix math and
> whatnot.
>
> in any case it would seem [to me] that outside of probability
> determination, and the "just look it up for the answer" definition,
> quantum computing would have limited use.
>
>
I don't think the public is going to be the recipients of such 
technology this century tho.


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          Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-27 21:18 +0100
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