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Re: Question to all: Outreach

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 8:12 PM Ulrike Uhlig <ulrike@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> On 18.03.20 12:01, Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:26 PM Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> wrote:
> > [...]
> >> As Debian can afford paying for its interns itself, we do.
> >
> > This looks bad to me. Should Debian pay directly to its contributors?
> > PS, IMO it's totally fine that other parties to pay Debian
> > contributors, like the LTS program.
>
> Why not?
>
> The money comes from people and companies who explicitly support Debian
> to do this work, just like the work on LTS.
>
> This investment is aiming at making Debian a more diverse community,
> which it currently isn't (1010 DDs, out of which less than 30, last time
> I counted, are female, trans, inter, queer aka. FTIQ*).
> Research has shown [1] that this is due to a variety of reasons, one of
> which is the lack of free time or financial support and free time for
> these people.
>
> We are talking about a total payment of 5000 USD (minus taxes for the
> contributors according to their country's tax law) per intern. This
> money is not received for nothing but for doing three months of
> full-time work that advances a variety of projects in Debian.
>
> After which interns generally continue to contribute for free, if the
> mentoring program hasn't been horribly bad at supporting them to do so.
>

Just to clarify, I appreciate all the mentoring/diverse works.

If Outreachy program is same as GSoC, which is paid by a company, I
have no doubt about it.

I only concerns that Debian pays _directly_.

-- 
Shengjing Zhu

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Re: Question to all: Outreach Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2020-03-17 22:20 +0100
  Re: Question to all: Outreach Shengjing Zhu <zhsj@debian.org> - 2020-03-18 09:50 +0100
    Re: Question to all: Outreach Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2020-03-18 10:30 +0100
      Re: Question to all: Outreach Shengjing Zhu <zhsj@debian.org> - 2020-03-18 12:10 +0100
        Re: Question to all: Outreach Ulrike Uhlig <ulrike@debian.org> - 2020-03-18 13:20 +0100
          Re: Question to all: Outreach Shengjing Zhu <zhsj@debian.org> - 2020-03-18 13:50 +0100
        Re: Question to all: Outreach Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-03-18 14:50 +0100

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