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Re: AoE X-Chapters?

Subject Re: AoE X-Chapters?
Newsgroups sci.electronics.design
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From Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Date 2017-03-01 16:34 +0000

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On 01/03/17 15:50, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> There are steganographic methods that survive converting to 1-bit
> monochrome, cropping, and stretching.  The ones I know about encode the
> message in the low spatial frequencies of an image.  The work was done
> by some IBM colleagues of mine around 2000.

In 1999 I saw a watermark added to a professional quality
jpeg photo. Then the image was shrunk and the quality reduced,
then printed on an inkjet printer and scanned.

The watermark survived.

But watermarking etc is pretty much irrelevant unless there
are effective sanctions against copying and/or distributing.
In most cases, there aren't.

It is another variant of the old axiom "if you think
cryptography will solve your problem, then you don't
understand cryptography and you don't understand your
problem".

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OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-03 11:35 -0800
  Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 boB <boB@theresnoplacelikehome.com> - 2017-02-03 14:17 -0800
  Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-03 18:35 -0500
    Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-03 17:20 -0800
  Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.com> - 2017-02-04 15:38 +0530
    Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-04 04:39 -0800
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        Re: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-03-01 07:16 -0800
  Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-02-25 18:59 -0600
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    Re: AoE X-Chapters? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-27 17:11 -0800
      Re: AoE X-Chapters? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-28 01:20 +0000
        Re: AoE X-Chapters? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-28 10:10 -0500
      Re: AoE X-Chapters? Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> - 2017-02-28 12:57 +1100
        Re: AoE X-Chapters? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-28 03:10 -0800
        Re: AoE X-Chapters? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-28 11:39 +0000
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              Re: AoE X-Chapters? Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-03-01 10:50 -0500
                Re: AoE X-Chapters? Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-03-01 16:34 +0000
                Re: AoE X-Chapters? John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-01 08:58 -0800
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            Re: AoE X-Chapters? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-28 18:22 -0800
              Re: AoE X-Chapters? pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-28 18:28 -0800
                Re: AoE X-Chapters? Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-02-28 19:10 -0800
                Re: AoE X-Chapters? pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-03-01 06:08 -0800
              Re: AoE X-Chapters? pcdhobbs@gmail.com - 2017-02-28 18:28 -0800
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      Re: AoE X-Chapters? Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-02-28 12:06 -0500
  Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 gyansorova@gmail.com - 2017-03-05 12:37 -0800
    Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 Winfield Hill <hill@rowland.harvard.edu> - 2017-03-05 12:51 -0800
    Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-05 13:47 -0800
      Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 George Herold <gherold@teachspin.com> - 2017-03-05 18:23 -0800
        Re: OT: Art of Electronics, 3rd ed, for $59.96 John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-03-05 18:37 -0800
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