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Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

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On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote:
>> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> wrote:
>>> For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with:
>>>     (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>>>     (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>>> and    (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]
>>>
>>> A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware:
>> Try it with one of the non-free network install ISOs from
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/
> I have been using these: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/
> ...
Thanks, Peter - but on top of Lee's answer, I'm beginning to get a sense that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images. (If the choice of images seems too complicated, that's only because it it.)  For example, just look at the pages you and Lee referenced:

	Lee: cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/
	You: cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.3.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/

Two pages to serve the same purpose is WAY too much churn. Then look at the /files/ from those two pages:

	Lee's page: [660M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso
	Your  page: [377M] firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso

It's almost as if two different people (or parties) are taking cracks at the same issue simply because no one is in charge to rationalize it for the sake of the people who matter: Those who are looking for a way to get started on Debian. But it gets even worse: Both pages use the SAME boilerplate text above the file links, so it would be easy to confuse them. Even someone who has read the instructions <https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06.en.html> carefully (as I did) has no hint of the unnecessary complications.

There's no reason there should be two places for people to go for the same thing. As it happens, the file from your page is the one I had already downloaded [(2) above], but even you did not recognize it because this has been over-complicated. And looking at both files, knowing that they contain much of the same material, I'm inclined to think that the other one [at 660M rather than 377M] has been more carefully assembled to get as much as practicable onto one installation disk.

I'm taking a lesson from this: some cleanup is in order.

Thanks,
John

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Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-26 22:20 +0100
  Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2020-02-27 04:30 +0100
    Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-02-27 05:10 +0100
      Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2020-02-27 05:40 +0100
        Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-27 08:20 +0100
      Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-27 08:10 +0100
        Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-02-27 09:50 +0100
          Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Charles Curley <charlescurley@charlescurley.com> - 2020-02-27 14:30 +0100
          Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-02-27 15:30 +0100
          Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-27 23:20 +0100
        Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2020-02-27 15:50 +0100
          Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-27 23:20 +0100
            Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-01 02:20 +0100
              Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-03-01 03:50 +0100
                Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-03-01 09:30 +0100
                Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-03-01 16:50 +0100
    Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change John Kaufmann <kaufmann@nb.net> - 2020-02-27 08:10 +0100

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