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Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer)

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I think Debian Testing would fit you very well
It is like a rock, honestly.
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I demand stability.
My machines Must work 24/7 without intervention.
for this reason I do have Debian Stable installed and operational on all 
machines (Mate desktop).

However, on the other hand I love Mate, and the continuing new 
features... and we don't get them in Stable.
And I am impatient and want the Latest And Greatest shiny new things in 
Mate!!!

My solution:
I keep a Debian Sid Mate (unstable) as default on on several machines, 
and I update daily +/-
In my experience, IF there is something buggy in Sid, it gets patched 
withing 12 hours, maybe as long as 24.
AND, I can just reboot to Stable and got to work without any issues.

My Wife is kinda a "Luddite that uses computers" so she has Debian Mate 
Stable... and I update it for her on occasion (days, weeks sometimes) 
and she is happy.
Happy Spouse = Happy Me.

Same for the office computers: the have Only Stable installed.

Mind that all of my hardware is several years old at a minimum, so 
having the bleeding edge gizmos is a non issue (and Mate is always in a 
Stable condition, that team is aces!)

On 2/25/20 7:55 AM, Sam wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would like to hear opinions about the release cycle of the Stable Debian
> releases for a Desktop user.
>
> I love the Debian ideals and perks (its social contract, independence from big
> companies...) and understand to a certain extent the fundamentals on why
> keeping "old-ish" versions of packages with backports and the Shiny new stuff
> syndrome, but I fail to see how Debian can make a useful desktop distribution
> with the current release cycle.
>
> For example: My main PC is an already two years old ryzen-based system and a
> Vega graphics card from 2017, and the kernel used in Stable has regressions
> which cause complete, unrecoverable system hangups on Vega cards which were
> not alleviated until kernel 5.3 onwards (and they still keep happening, though
> rarely!). This means that to ensure stability on a Debian installation I would
> need a backported kernel, or use Debian Testing or Sid, which IMO collides
> with the point of a Stable release.
>
> I also see everyday many announcements about performance (GNOME) and usability
> (KDE Plasma) improvements which are not exactly new features. This is
> obviously happening on more recent releases, which Debian may not see (unless
> these changes are also backported, which I would find extremely cumbersome?)
> until approximately two years have passed since that.
>
> All this makes me think that while Debian is a fantastic distribution, its
> Desktop, common user-facing side of things would greatly benefit from
> something like a separate yearly Stable release.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
>
>
>
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Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a Debian newcomer) Sam <debian@samueldgv.com> - 2020-02-25 17:20 +0100
  Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and  a Debian newcomer) Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-25 17:30 +0100
  Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and  a Debian newcomer) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-02-25 18:10 +0100
  Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and  a Debian newcomer) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-02-25 19:40 +0100
  Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a  Debian newcomer) Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-02-25 20:10 +0100
    Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and  a Debian newcomer) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-02-25 20:50 +0100
  Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and a  Debian newcomer) "Miguel A. Vallejo" <ea4eoz@gmail.com> - 2020-02-29 15:10 +0100
    Re: Understanding the two-year release cycle as a desktop user (and  a Debian newcomer) songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-02-29 16:40 +0100

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