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Re: Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020

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Hi Jonathan

> I haven't publicly said this before, but I believe it was a big mistake:
>
>   * Not having a bid committee for that vote
>   * Making it a private vote
>   * Not announcing the the DCC would be the bid committee
>     nor that it would be a private vote

You have been part of the DCC at the time, just sayin' in case you forgot.

> I've brought these up in various private discussions before, and
> unfortunately it's too late to change that decision without further,
> possibly worse consequences, but I think the current DebConf committee
> should strongly consider setting up a bid committee again (even if it
> largely or mostly overlaps with the DCC, that might just be natural) and
> keep the bid decision public as it was in prior DebConfs. I've seen
> people express this on IRC before and I hope they speak up on more
> formal channels too.

Translation: I did not get the result I wanted, so I'd like a "bid 
committee" next time in the hope that decisions will be more in line 
with my personal convictions.

We held public review meetings for the DC21 bids. You did not care to 
show up for either of them.

> On a purely personal note, I find it in rather poor taste to talk about
> diversity in the context of having DC in a country with an active
> apartheid regime.

Roberto gave you an answer to this already.

"active apartheid regime" is politically loaded lingo and shows where 
you stand.
Employing it disqualifies rational arguments, if you had any.

Daniel

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Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2020-02-17 19:20 +0100
  Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 09:50 +0100
    Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2020-02-18 15:30 +0100
    Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 17:40 +0100
      Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 19:50 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 17:50 +0100
      Re: Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August  9th 2020 Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:40 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 20:50 +0100
          Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 21:10 +0100
            Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 07:00 +0100
              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Ulrike Uhlig <ulrike@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 10:20 +0100
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              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 12:10 +0100
                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 06:20 +0100
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                Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 14:20 +0100
              Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th  2020 Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 14:00 +0100
        Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020 Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2020-02-18 21:20 +0100
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