Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade

From	Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade
Date	2019-08-16 12:10 +0200
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On Fri 16 Aug 2019 at 11:06:43 +0200, john doe wrote:

> On 8/15/2019 6:52 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 14 Aug 2019 at 07:36:21 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rico, and thanks for your answer.
> >>
> >> On 8/13/2019 9:25 PM, Reco wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 08:07:49PM +0200, john doe wrote:
> >>>> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not
> >>>> doing that
> >>>
> >>> Pro: keeping uptime
> >>> Con: keeping previous, possibly buggy, version for dbus running.
> >>>
> >>>> or how can I avoid rebooting altogether?
> >>>
> >>> dbus is not mandatory and is redundant for typical server software.
> >>> If you don't need it - just uninstall it. Simple as that.
> >>>
> >>
> >> okay, dbus is only required when a DE (Gnome,Mate, ...) is present.
> >> If I'm correct, and given the fact that I don't use a DE, I could look
> >> at safely remove it?
> >
> > You are not correct. 'apt rdepends dbus' is worth looking at.
> >>
> 
> Okay, as far as I understand it, depends means that it will be pulled as
> an dependency but not that it is required for it to work properly.
> What I'm starting to realise is that to much dependencies are pulled to
> implement lots of feature that is not always necessery.
> 
> 
> Before posting to the list, a google search let me think that dbus is
> only required when DE is wanted.
> Do you have online documentation that would explain why dbus is required
> when no DE is used?

As

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/

says:

  > D-Bus is a message bus system, a simple way for applications to
  > talk to one another.

There is no mention of DEs on that page. dbus is for any application to
talk to any other application.
 
> P.S.
> 
> The Debian bugreport provided in this thread seems to corroborate your
> pointbut  I can't find something tangible to back that up.

As Reco said:

  > If you don't need it - just uninstall it.

What do you get for 'apt purge dbus'?

-- 
Brian.

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dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-13 20:10 +0200
  Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-13 21:30 +0200
    Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-14 07:50 +0200
      Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-14 08:50 +0200
        Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2019-08-14 09:00 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-14 09:30 +0200
            Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-08-14 10:30 +0200
      Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 19:00 +0200
        Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-15 19:20 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 20:50 +0200
            Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-15 21:10 +0200
              Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 21:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-16 09:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 12:20 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 20:20 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-16 21:40 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 00:30 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-17 12:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 13:20 +0200
            Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 23:20 +0200
              Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 23:40 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-16 09:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-08-16 14:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 16:30 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-15 21:00 +0200
        Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-16 11:10 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 12:10 +0200
            Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 12:30 +0200
              Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 12:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 13:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 13:10 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 13:20 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 13:30 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-16 13:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 14:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 13:00 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-08-16 12:30 +0200
  Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-17 20:20 +0200
    Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-18 12:30 +0200
      Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-08-18 15:20 +0200
        Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-18 17:00 +0200
          Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-19 09:30 +0200
            Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-19 09:40 +0200
              Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-19 10:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-19 10:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-08-19 21:10 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-19 21:20 +0200
              Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Bastien Durel <bastien@durel.org> - 2019-08-19 10:50 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-19 11:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Bastien Durel <bastien@durel.org> - 2019-08-19 12:00 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-08-19 12:10 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-08-19 16:20 +0200
                Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade Bastien Durel <bastien@durel.org> - 2019-08-19 18:20 +0200
        Re: dbus-deamon avoiding reboot after upgrade john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-08-18 17:00 +0200

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