Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook)

From	John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook)
Date	2019-07-11 05:50 +0200
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On 2019-07-10 15:31, Reco wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:35:33AM +0900, John Crawley wrote:
>> On 2019-07-10 01:52, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 06:48:22PM +0200, mjonsson1986@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
>>>
>>> Please post only text, not HTML.  If your email agent *cannot* do plain
>>> text alone, at least configure it to send both plain text and HTML.  Or,
>>> y'know, get a better email agent.
>>>
>> Of course text messages are best (and what I use all the time) but
>> surely a decent mail agent on the receiver's end will display that OK?
> 
> A subverted XHTML produced by Microsoft Word? You're joking, right?
> It will display *somehow*, that's for sure. But to display it as
> "intended" you'll need something from M$.

Well, just to display the text, without the html tags is not that hard.  
As to how it was "intended" to be, who knows?

>> On Thunderbird the OP was perfectly readable, and I had no idea it
>> wasn't plain text till I checked the source.
> 
> It was readable in my mutt too. Still does not make it right.

I was never trying to claim that it was OK to send messages as html - I  
always use plain text myself - but I thought there might be something to  
be said for user agents that could deal with html in some sane way, and  
without exposing the recipient to attacks. Simply not following any web  
links would be enough I'd have thought? Or are there some more subtle  
attack paths?

As you've pointed out, mutt does OK. If all the posters to debian-user  
refrained from including html in their messages, it would not remove the  
need for MUAs to cope with it.

-- 
John

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Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-09 19:00 +0200
  Re: chromebook Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-10 02:20 +0200
  Re: chromebook John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-10 03:40 +0200
    Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 06:30 +0200
      Re: chromebook Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2019-07-10 09:20 +0200
      Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-10 09:30 +0200
        Re: chromebook Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-10 22:00 +0200
    Re: chromebook Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 08:40 +0200
      Re: chromebook Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-10 15:10 +0200
        Re: mutt vs HTML (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-10 16:10 +0200
      Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 05:50 +0200
        Re: HTML mail (was: chromebook) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 08:30 +0200
          Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 09:00 +0200
            Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
            Re: HTML mail Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 09:20 +0200
              Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 11:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 11:40 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-11 16:10 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2019-07-11 19:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Carl Fink <carl@finknetwork.com> - 2019-07-11 20:20 +0200
                Re: HTML mail John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 14:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-11 18:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Thomas D Dial <tdial@acm.org> - 2019-07-11 21:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail tomas@tuxteam.de - 2019-07-12 09:30 +0200
                Re: HTML mail Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2019-07-11 16:00 +0200
                Re: HTML mail David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-11 17:20 +0200
              Re: HTML mail John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2019-07-11 13:20 +0200
  Re: chromebook Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2019-07-11 04:40 +0200
    Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:30 +0200
      Re: Own MTA is hard (was: chromebook) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-11 10:40 +0200
        Re: Own MTA is hard (was: chromebook) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 10:50 +0200
      Re: chromebook John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-11 18:40 +0200
        Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 09:40 +0200
          Re: chromebook Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-12 10:00 +0200
            Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 10:40 +0200
          [Off-topic] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-12 16:00 +0200
            Re: [Off-topic] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-12 16:30 +0200
            Re: [Off-topic] Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-12 19:00 +0200
              Re: [Off-topic] Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 04:20 +0200
                Re: [Off-topic] Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 18:30 +0200
    Re: chromebook rhkramer@gmail.com - 2019-07-11 14:00 +0200
      Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-11 14:50 +0200
        Re: chromebook Keith Bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2019-07-17 06:30 +0200
          Re: chromebook Diagonal Arg <debian.org@niwas.net> - 2019-07-17 06:50 +0200
            Re: chromebook <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-17 09:10 +0200

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