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Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration

From David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration
Date 2019-07-07 06:20 +0200
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On Sat 06 Jul 2019 at 18:14:04 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 06 July 2019 15:35:10 Brian wrote:
> > On Fri 05 Jul 2019 at 21:35:25 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 05 July 2019 15:23:38 Brian wrote:
> > > > I was rather hoping someone would clarify why not having
> > > > avahi-daemon in the first place was a good thing in general. Your
> > > > problem doesn't particularly interest me because it is probably
> > > > something you have brought on yourself due to previous actions.
> > > >
> > > > > Here is your Clarification: I used apt to purge avahi-daemon
> > > > > which took nsswitch with it,

That was your claim. Then I read the following:

  Greg> Whatever Gene did, it's absolutely not normal or desirable for
  Greg> nsswitch.conf to vanish.  I still think he deleted it by hand and then
  Greg> forgot the exact sequence of steps which led to its disappearance, so
  Greg> he simply blamed it on purging ahavi-daemon.

  Gene> I didn't say that. If I made that impression I didn't intend to. I
  Gene> removed it by hand about 2 hours back but that u-sd has not been
  Gene> inserted in the pi yet as I'm also the chief cook […]
  Gene> […] recycle the dishwasher. :(

  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/07/msg00306.html

> > > > I stopped reading there. I am not into fantasy.
> > >
> > > Which proves another theorem of mine. Folks with a sheepskin on the
> > > office wall stop learning, and by your stopping without reading the
> > > explanation is evidence of that effect. I can lead you to the facts,
> > > but
> >
> > Your first "fact" is demonstrably incorrect and has been shown to be
> > so. Indeed, you seem to have backed away from your claim that
> > avahi-daemon is the cause of your difficulties. The only place you
> > lead people is up the misleading garden path. A clear statement of
> > what you did and what happened is more likely to bring results; making
> > attacking software a lifestyle choice gets a bit boring after a while.
> >
> > > like the horse refusing to drink when led to water, I'll drop the
> > > reins. You may, or may not drink the water of knowledge. I can't
> > > control that.
> >
> > Is this an attempt at some self-promotion as the fount of knowledge?
> > I never thought I would live to see the day!
> 
> If you read the full thread, you will find where I found and fixed that 
> problem, by killing dhcpd5 with htop, and restarting networking, and the 
> problem was fixed, everything then worked correctly, but I have not 
> reinstalled avahi-daemon to see if it returns.  Perhaps I should because 
> it appears there were 2 sources of that trash.

Perhaps you mean dhcpcd5? I thought you said that you're "the last one
on the planet using hosts files and no dhcpd's of any kind".

If you were running this, did you try using the -L or --noipv4ll option?

> Yes, I purged what was left as it wouldn't reinstall, then reinstalled 
> avahi-daemon.  results:
> 
> With avahi-daemon running. the trash in the ip a report was back after a 
> networking restart, BUT allthough it showed in an ip r report with a 
> metric of 202, I could still ping yahoo.com. I could not before.
> 
> So I service avahi-daemon stopped it, and restarted the networking, trash 
> 169.254 junk gone. An yahoo.com still pinged.
> 
> So I've purged it again.  And restarted the networking yet again.
> ip a:
> pi@picnc:~ $ ip a
> 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group 
> default qlen 1000
>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>     inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
> state UP group default qlen 1000
>     link/ether b8:27:eb:d3:47:2d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>     inet 192.168.71.12/24 brd 192.168.71.255 scope global eth0
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>     inet6 fe80::8815:60eb:fe0a:d5bc/64 scope link
>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 3: wlan0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
> state DOWN group default qlen 1000
>     link/ether b8:27:eb:86:12:78 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 
> ip r:
> pi@picnc:~ $ ip r
> default via 192.168.71.1 dev eth0 onlink
> 192.168.71.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.71.12

That looks very like what I posted, except for "onlink"; also I'm
connected by wireless rather than wire. But my    ps -ef   listing
and nsswitch.conf file show:
$ ps -ef | grep avahi | grep -v grep ; grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf
avahi      653     1  0 21:23 ?        00:00:00 avahi-daemon: running [wren.local]
avahi      666   653  0 21:23 ?        00:00:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
$ 

> So I now have a working network. Free of the bogus inventions of dhcpd5 
> and avahi.  That _was_ the point of all this hoopla in the first place.
> 
> Now, I have learned what works to _my_ satisfaction.

Glad to hear it. I still don't see that you've shown why you had to
purge avahi to get your results above.

> Have you? Or did you quit reading the instant I went off the edge of your 
> menu?

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Assorted arm-buster problems #1 Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 03:10 +0200
  Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-04 09:20 +0200
    Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 10:50 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-07-04 11:30 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 11:50 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-07-04 12:20 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 16:50 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-07-04 19:20 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-05 06:00 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 12:40 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-05 13:20 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-05 14:50 +0200
            Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-05 15:10 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-05 15:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 02:30 +0200
            Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 02:20 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-06 15:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-08 14:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-08 15:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-08 16:30 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-06 07:30 +0200
    Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 17:50 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-04 18:20 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 19:40 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-04 21:10 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2019-07-04 22:00 +0200
            Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-04 22:10 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-04 22:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-04 22:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 11:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-05 09:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 11:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 17:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 19:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-05 20:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 13:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 13:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 17:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-05 13:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 17:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-05 19:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 03:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-05 13:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 18:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-05 14:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 20:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-06 06:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 10:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-05 11:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 16:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-05 15:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 02:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 21:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-05 22:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 22:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-05 22:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-06 10:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-07-06 12:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-06 21:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-07 08:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 19:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 20:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 20:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-08 21:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 23:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-08 21:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-07 11:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 19:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 03:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-06 21:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 00:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-07 06:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 07:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-07 17:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-07 09:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 13:20 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-07-07 14:50 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-07 18:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 23:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-07-07 22:00 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-08 20:30 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-04 23:00 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Lee <ler762@gmail.com> - 2019-07-04 19:50 +0200
      Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-04 22:50 +0200
        Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-05 12:10 +0200
          Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-05 18:10 +0200
            Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-06 03:20 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-06 07:10 +0200
              Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-06 18:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 02:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 03:40 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-07 06:30 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration andreimpopescu@gmail.com - 2019-07-07 09:10 +0200
                Re: Assorted arm-buster problems - network configuration Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-07 13:30 +0200

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