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Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster

From Curt <curty@free.fr>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster
Date 2019-07-01 15:20 +0200
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On 2019-07-01, Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote:
> On Monday 01 July 2019 03:52:55 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 12:45:57PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >At this point, I'd call it a buster delaying bug.  That last is going
>> > to cost too many that can't ignore it and don't have unencrypted
>> > backups. Thats going to be a lot of very bad PR.
>>
>> It's the release teams call, generally speaking, and one of the things
>> they might factor in is the size of the user-base for the troublesome
>> package. I'm surprised to find that it's extremely small according to
>> popcon data: less than 1% of reporters:
>> https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=ecryptfs-utils
>>
>> Compare just two alternatives:
>>
>> encfs: 1.14% https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=encfs
>> cryptsetup: 15% https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=cryptsetup
>
> That does put a better light on it.  From the comments so far, I was 

The light's not switching on for me, Gene. I'm trying to figure out
Popularity Contest and what all those statistics mean.

Let's compare encfs and ecryptfs-utils with a bit more granularity.

NAME            NUMBER       %      RANK       NUMBER         %     RANK  ...
____________________________________________________________________________
ecryptfs-utils  1651       0.85%    10510      1066         0.58%   3632  ...
encfs           2231       1.14%     9233       630         0.34%   4574  ...

The second triad of NUMBER % RANK columns corresponds to the number of people
using the package regularly* and by that metric ecryptfs-utils beats encfs by a
relative long shot (1066 to 630, 0.58% to 0.34%). It's true cryptsetup appears
to be the clear winner of the three, though it's not entirely comparable to the
other two use-case/implementation-wise (block device level encryption as
compared to file system level encryption).

Maybe I'm getting this all wrong.

*whatever that may denote in this case, exactly

> thinking I'm one of the few not using it. I've depended on dd-wrt 
> between me and the internet for the last 16 years, and even before that 
> I was on dialup and the dialup folks didn't have enough bandwidth to 
> attract the black hats, so I've never been touched.

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Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-30 12:00 +0200
  Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Andrea Borgia <andrea@borgia.bo.it> - 2019-06-30 17:40 +0200
    Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Sven Hartge <sven@svenhartge.de> - 2019-06-30 18:20 +0200
      Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-30 18:50 +0200
        Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 10:00 +0200
          Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-01 12:10 +0200
            Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-01 15:20 +0200
              Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 15:50 +0200
                Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-01 16:10 +0200
              Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-01 22:00 +0200
            Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-01 15:40 +0200
              Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 15:50 +0200
              Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-01 22:00 +0200
                Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-07-01 22:20 +0200
                Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-07-02 01:50 +0200
                Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-07-02 11:20 +0200
                Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2019-07-07 02:10 +0200
      Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Andrea Borgia <andrea@borgia.bo.it> - 2019-06-30 19:00 +0200
      Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Tixy <tixy@yxit.co.uk> - 2019-06-30 19:50 +0200
        Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-30 21:20 +0200
    Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-01 09:50 +0200
      Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-01 16:20 +0200
        Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-01 16:50 +0200
          Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-01 17:50 +0200
      Re: Document removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-01 16:20 +0200
      70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document removal  of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-07-02 14:10 +0200
        Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-02 14:40 +0200
          Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-07-02 15:00 +0200
            Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-07-02 15:20 +0200
            Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-07-02 15:20 +0200
            Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-02 16:20 +0200
              Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2019-07-02 16:30 +0200
                Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-02 21:20 +0200
                Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? Stephan Seitz <stse+debian@fsing.rootsland.net> - 2019-07-03 09:20 +0200
                Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-07-03 10:10 +0200
                Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-07-03 11:30 +0200
                Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Geoff <unit735@bigpond.com> - 2019-07-03 04:30 +0200
        Re: 70-persistent-net-rules no longer supported? (Was Re: Document  removal of ecryptfs-utils from Buster) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2019-07-08 11:20 +0200

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