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Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding

From "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
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Subject Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding
Message-ID <ybrls.204929$9W6.196515@fx08.am4> (permalink)
Date 2012-11-04 10:11 +0000

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"M. Strobel"  wrote in message news:afl0ueF96jhU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
>
>Am 03.11.2012 10:14, schrieb Tony Marston:
>> "M. Strobel"  wrote in message news:afhg10Ff1jjU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> Am 02.11.2012 08:12, schrieb Tony Marston:
>>>> When you design your database for your PHP application are you aware 
>>>> that some of
>>>> your design decisions can have a detrimental effect when it comes to 
>>>> writing the code
>>>> to access that database?
>>>
>>> All your design decisions can have a detrimental or beneficial effect. 
>>> The word "can"
>>> even is too weak, since the database design is the base of your 
>>> application.
>>>
>>> I don't like the phrasing "code to access the database". What you want 
>>> to access AND
>>> use is your data.
>>>
>>> Maybe I am nitpicking, but precision in wording shows precision in 
>>> concept. That is
>>> what programmers need.
>>>
>>> /Str.
>>
>> Instead of nitpicking over the words I used why don't you try and show 
>> how
>
>Okay, leave out the nitpicking and take it as constructive proposal.
>
>> intelligent you are by commenting on the 14 "bad" practices that I have 
>> identified.
>> Do you agree with them? Do you disagree? Do you have any more to add? Or 
>> does your
>
>Sounds like a lot of work. Advice is okay, work must be payed.
>
>> limited experience not go as far as designing the databases that your 
>> applications
>> use? Or don't you write database applications?
>>
>Sorry, I forgot all since I managed DB2 in the early nineties. Forgot all 
>from 15
>years as IT trainer. Forgot more than others ever knew :-)
>
>/Str.

So even with all those years of experience you are still unable to reply 
intelligently and constructively to the 14 points I raised in my article?

-- 
Tony Marston

http://www.tonymarston.net
http://www.radicore.org 

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Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-02 07:12 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-02 09:53 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:14 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-03 18:01 +0100
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 15:03 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:11 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-11-04 14:37 -0600
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-11-03 19:00 +0100
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:18 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-04 07:29 -0500
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-02 06:48 -0400
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-11-02 12:34 +0100
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-02 07:48 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:28 +0000
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-11-03 10:56 +0100
            Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:09 +0000
              Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-04 07:32 -0500
              Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-11-04 16:45 +0100
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:52 -0400
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-11-02 11:56 +0000
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:17 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:54 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-11-03 16:06 +0100
          Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 11:25 -0400
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-11-02 11:13 +0000
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-03 09:31 +0000
      Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2012-11-03 13:08 +0000
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-11-03 10:55 -0400
        Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:04 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2012-11-03 11:04 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Tony Marston" <TonyMarston@hotmail.com> - 2012-11-04 10:30 +0000
  Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding Erwin Moller <erwinmollerusenet@xs4all.nl> - 2012-11-15 15:49 +0100
    Re: Bad database design can cause unnecessary coding "Peter H. Coffin" <hellsop@ninehells.com> - 2012-11-15 12:03 -0600

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