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Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project, linux.debian.ports.68k
Subject Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task
Date 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
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On 9/30/19 4:53 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 1:14 AM John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> 
>> Having said that, I'm going to unsubscribe from this list now as I realize
>> that what we do in Debian Ports is still not considered useful many others,
>> so I think it's not possible to find an agreement.
> 
> To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial
> Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC task is a
> good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to pay people for their
> time. I think that crowdfunding the m68k GCC task could work.

I think you misunderstood. This is not for paying myself or any other
person involved in Debian Ports. This is for collecting money to be
able to convince someone experienced in hacking on the gcc code so that
they can help us save the m68k backend in gcc.

For what is worth, Richard Biener from gcc upstream told me that an
experienced gcc developer would be able to perform the task within
one months. It's mainly a matter of using enough elbow grease but not
necessarily hard work, he says.

Since I can't expect a random gcc developer to sink one month of work
into working on a backend they are most likely not going to use them-
selves, I have started a campaign on BountySource so that I can pay
them for the work.

I'm not earning a single Cent from this myself.

Adrian

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Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 11:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2019-09-28 12:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2019-09-28 12:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-09-28 15:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2019-09-28 21:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-29 11:40 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:10 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:30 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 23:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 16:20 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-09-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-09-29 19:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-09-29 01:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 16:00 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 18:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 19:00 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 19:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 19:40 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 20:10 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 02:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 03:20 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 11:20 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:30 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:50 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 13:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2019-09-29 13:30 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task, request  has seen Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2019-09-29 13:30 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> - 2019-09-30 01:40 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 13:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 14:00 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 15:30 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Aron Xu <aron@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 16:00 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Brock Wittrock <brockwittrock@gmail.com> - 2019-09-29 16:30 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Brock Wittrock <brockwittrock@gmail.com> - 2019-09-29 16:40 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 19:20 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 05:00 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-30 10:20 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-09-30 12:50 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:00 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2019-09-29 14:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Richard Z <rz@linux-m68k.org> - 2019-09-29 23:50 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 06:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2019-09-30 10:20 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-09-30 12:50 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 17:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-10-03 21:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-10-04 19:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2019-10-01 17:00 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task cascardo@debian.org - 2019-10-01 17:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-10-01 19:40 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-12-01 11:30 +0100

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