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Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

From John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task
Date 2019-09-29 12:10 +0200
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On 9/28/19 9:07 PM, Guillem Jover wrote:
> I'm afraid this argument cuts both ways. I would find it extremely
> demotivating if Debian started spending money to pay people to work
> on tasks that up to now have been volunteer based (where volunteer
> of course can include a company volunteering employees time f.ex.).

I don't think any of the projects like gcc, the kernel, binutils or
glibc are maintained by volunteers these days. At least I don't know
any volunteer doing that work on a larger scale.

At SUSE, we have dedicated teams who work on gcc, the kernel, kvm
and so on. I don't think anyone - unless they are rather wealthy -
can afford to spend working all day on a project without getting
paid.

> I already find the LTS effort borderline, where I try to refuse out
> of principle to do LTS work for packages I maintain, and where I've
> found myself being pretty unhappy that one time I had to do some of
> that for a native package, which would have had a very weird release
> history otherwise. :/

Not sure what the problem with LTS is. I thought companies pay for the
extra effort. I think it's a perfectly fine business model.

Adrian

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Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 11:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org> - 2019-09-28 12:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2019-09-28 12:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-09-28 15:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2019-09-28 21:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-29 11:40 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:10 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:30 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 23:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 16:20 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2019-09-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-09-29 19:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-09-29 01:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 16:00 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 16:20 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 18:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 19:00 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 19:20 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 19:40 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-09-28 20:00 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-28 20:10 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 02:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 03:20 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 11:20 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:10 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 12:30 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 12:50 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 13:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> - 2019-09-29 13:30 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task, request  has seen Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> - 2019-09-29 13:30 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Finn Thain <fthain@telegraphics.com.au> - 2019-09-30 01:40 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 13:20 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 14:00 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 15:30 +0200
          Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Aron Xu <aron@debian.org> - 2019-09-29 16:00 +0200
            Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Brock Wittrock <brockwittrock@gmail.com> - 2019-09-29 16:30 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Brock Wittrock <brockwittrock@gmail.com> - 2019-09-29 16:40 +0200
              Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-09-29 19:20 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 05:00 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-09-30 10:20 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-09-30 12:50 +0200
                Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:00 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> - 2019-09-29 14:50 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Richard Z <rz@linux-m68k.org> - 2019-09-29 23:50 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 06:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Steffen Möller <steffen_moeller@gmx.de> - 2019-09-30 10:20 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-09-30 12:50 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-09-30 17:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-10-03 16:10 +0200
      Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-10-03 21:10 +0200
        Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2019-10-04 19:00 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2019-10-01 17:00 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task cascardo@debian.org - 2019-10-01 17:30 +0200
    Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-10-01 19:40 +0200
  Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de> - 2019-12-01 11:30 +0100

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