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Re: Python 3 transition question

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On 9/2/19 1:18 PM, Martin Kelly wrote:
> On 9/1/19 10:07 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>
>>
>> On September 2, 2019 4:00:53 AM UTC, Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> 
>> wrote:
>>>> I would just stop building these.  And if the reverse dependencies
>>> have a
>>>> py2removal bug itself, then comment in these issues that the
>>>> suggested/recommended package gets removed.  If they don't have a
>>> py2removal
>>>> bug, please file the bugs for these packages.
>>>
>>> i dont believe this is a sensible approach; for example i maintain
>>> python-mpmath, that would be rendered uninstallable the moment
>>> python-gmp2 is removed. Now, python-mpmath has 3 external
>>> reverse-dependencies (just to name a couple, sagemath and simpy) that
>>> would be then uninstallable, and so on and so forth for all their
>>> rdeps.
>>>
>>> Martin, i think for now the only option is to keep the py2 packages
>>> around until we're ready to drop them (ie they have 0 rdeps).
>>
>> I just checked on packages.d.o and according to it, python-gmp2 is a 
>> Suggests.  Suggests aren't installed with packages.  Unless I'm 
>> missing something, python-mpmath wouldn't become uninstallable.
>>
>> IIRC, policy doesn't even require Suggests packages to exist.
>>
>> I agree about keeping packages as long as they have reverse 
>> Recommends, but I think Suggests is going too far (although AIUI, 
>> missing Recommends don't make the package uninstallable either).
>>
>> Scott K
>>
> 
> If I'm summarizing correctly, it sounds like there is no policy on 
> exactly what to do here. I think removing the package would be pretty 
> bad, because gmpy is designed to speed up numerical libraries, and the 
> performance hit without it would make many libraries really painful to 
> use. Given this, perhaps the dependencies should be Recommends instead 
> of Suggests.
> 
> The guidelines I saw in the bugs filed on my packages (e.g. bug #937791) 
> say to "document" the reverse dependency. Where do I document this?

(ping). I'd like to resolve the bugs I have on my packages and am not 
sure yet how best to proceed.

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Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-01 21:50 +0200
  Re: Python 3 transition question Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 02:00 +0200
    Re: Python 3 transition question Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 06:10 +0200
      Re: Python 3 transition question Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-09-02 07:10 +0200
        Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-02 22:20 +0200
          Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-05 01:00 +0200

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