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how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to dla-needed.txt with comments.)

From Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel.release, linux.debian.security
Subject how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to dla-needed.txt with comments.)
Date 2019-08-29 14:20 +0200
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hi,

(this started as a discussion whether to update radare2 in (old)stable
and has since then evolved into a discussion about the problem
summarized well by Raphael.)

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 01:48:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2019, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> > The upstream link makes it sound as if they are one of those upstreams
> > which reject the idea of distributions shipping an older release to
> > a stable distro. For a tool like radare2 that seems fair enough, so
> > how about simply excluding it from stable releases (and retroactively
> > drop it from Buster/Stretch in the forthcoming point releases)?
> 
> <pkg-security hat>
> While I have no problem in getting it out of stable release, it is
> important that we are able to provide backports so the package must
> stay in Debian testing. 
> </pkg-security hat>
> 
> <kali hat>
> Also radare2 is a package that we care about in Kali and we are based
> on Debian testing so we would prefer if it could continue to be there.
> </kali hat>
> 
> In general, we (Debian) don't have a good answer to this problem and
> virtualbox is clearly a bad precedent. We really need to find a solution
> to this in concertation with the release managers.

so I've added them to this thread.

youtube-dl is in the same boat...


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cheers,
	Holger

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how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was Re:  [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-08-29 14:20 +0200
  Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-08-29 14:30 +0200
    Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org> - 2019-08-29 15:20 +0200
      Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Dan Clery <dan@savevsgeek.com> - 2019-08-29 16:40 +0200
        Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-08-30 09:20 +0200
          Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2019-08-30 09:40 +0200
            Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-08-30 11:00 +0200
              Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2019-08-30 11:10 +0200
                Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-08-30 16:50 +0200
                Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de> - 2019-08-30 22:10 +0200
          Re: how to deal with widely used packages unsuitable for stable (was  Re: [Git][security-tracker-team/security-tracker][master] Add radare2 to  dla-needed.txt with comments.) Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org> - 2019-08-30 10:20 +0200

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