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| From | Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Intended question - was {Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file} |
| Date | 2019-06-16 21:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <y9IR4-6t7-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On 06/16/2019 11:03 AM, David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 15 Jun 2019 at 08:15:24 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 06/14/2019 06:10 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> I can't remember the name of the file which identifies the
>>> association between a directory (i.e. \home) and which physical
>>> partition it is on. The file I'm looking for also identifies which
>>> partition is used for swap.
>>
>> The filename I had forgotten was /etc/fstab .
>>
>> Background:
>> I have one laptop explicitly set aside for experimenting with Debian
>> in order to determine *MY* ideal system. To this end I may have a half
>> dozen copies of Debian to chose from at boot.
>>
>> For my purposes, the Debian installer has two annoyances:
>> 1. swap area designation.
>> Everything is fine on the 1st installation.
>> On following installations, when the existing swap partition is
>> is to be used its UUID is changed. This causes grief for the
>> other installations by making swap area appear missing. My
>> personally preferred solution is to activate swap only of the
>> initial installation. For subsequent installs actually requiring
>> a swap partition, I edit its /etc/fstab .
>
> It's rather easy to work around this problem in one of two ways (at least):
Ways on order of {# users}**N { N < world_population} ;/
>
> With a reasonable amount of memory (not a problam nowadays), just tell
> the d-i to leave the existing swap file alone and do without one. Then
> manually add the old UUID into the new installation's /etc/fstab
*ROFL* !!!!
Been doing that forever. However, had not done it recently.
I had forgotten the filename was "/etc/fstab" ;<
> and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume when it's up and running.
Never hear of that file. Will research after sending this message.
> (If you're only installing as an experiment in installation,
I'm not experimenting with the installation process, but with what I
want the result to be.
> I suspect
> you won't even need to bother, because you'll be overwriting it shortly.
> Does top show much use of swap anyway?)
Not a parameter of my experiment's protocol.
As I do not "know" how much swap space I require, I provide swap space
based on conservative estimates of _typical_ requirements. That
logically leads to my preference for a SINGLE large swap vs multiple
small swap areas. *YMMV* !!!
>
> or, even easier,
>
> Use a LABEL to indicate the swap partition in all your own
> /etc/fstab files, eg:
> LABEL=swan10 none swap sw
> and in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume.
> The d-i will of course overwrite the swap partition UUID/LABEL
> as usual, but it's trivial to reset your LABEL at the end.
> When the d-i reaches the UTC question at the end, switch to VC2
> and type (with the appropriate values):
> # /target/sbin/swaplabel -L LLLLLL /dev/sdXN
> before answering the UTC question. The newly installed system
> will boot via its fresh UUID, but all your old systems will
> carry on using your LABEL as usual. (I assume that if you're
> going to keep the new system for any length of time, you will
> be editing its /etc/fstab anyway, and can set your usual LABEL
> there, as in the example above.)
I can't parse that.
>
>> 2. Grub configuration.
>> The installer is egotistical enough to think that what is being
>> installed will always be the preferred version. NOT!
>
> You've been flogging this dead horse for at least seven years now.
Horse ain't dead.
> Common sense dictates that anyone installing a new system wants it
> to boot up by default.
You have neglected to *GROK* my goals ;/
Some of my experiments are un-bootable.
> Anything else would be like sending the final
> copy of your magnum opus to the publisher only for them to distribute
> an old draft. OSes aren't like marmalade, where you have to use up
> the old jar before opening a new one.
>
>> My solution is install Grub only on the initial install and NO
>> boot loader on subsequent install. After completing one (or more)
>> additional installs, I boot the first install and run update-grub.
>>
>> VM's had been suggested ;}
>
> What for; to avoid having to type <down><down><down><return> when booting?
No
require my failures to be deterministic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VM's are intrinsically unknown quantities.
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Re: Intended question David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-21 04:40 +0200
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Re: Bonus answers - was [Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2019-06-16 11:50 +0200
Re: Bonus answers - was [Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file] Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-06-16 13:30 +0200
Re: Bonus answers - was [Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file] Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2019-06-17 15:20 +0200
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