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Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

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On 09.06.19 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote:
> And what do we call that Erik, thats much bigger than a normal foop, a 
> megafoop maybe?  Good grief, Charley Brown.  And we're stuck with it. :(

Well now, there are folks who have observed that not all progress is
forward, and not all code bloat and pervasiveness is a benison,
resulting in at least two ways to remain essentially debian without
remaining stuck in the foop, mega or otherwise.

One simple method is from the "Insidious systemd" thread on this list.
Quoting from <20190527144308.0398ce4b@debian9>:

On 27.05.19 14:43, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> I used the "approved" conversion documented on Debian's web site
> somewhere: apt (or apt-get) install sysvinit-core.
...
> Totally automatic. All of systemd's libraries remained along with udev
> and a couple others I don't recall.  It freed up about 6 or 7 MB of
> RAM over a systemd boot.

One apt-get install is about as easy as it could be.

Some residual unused libraries mouldering in the background do no harm,
but if they offend, then there is devuan. While my laptop and main
desktop are pre-systemd debian, I've run devuan on another host for some
time. It is only sans-systemd debian, remaining true in other regards.
Downloading an image, putting it on a usb stick, and doing yet another
install is a bit more work, and another list to subscribe to. There are
a number of debian users who appear satisfied with the sysvinit-core
package. To my mind it neatly solves the problem of an old bloke, happy
with traditional sysvinit, having to load wetware RAM with a completely
new way to get the same bucket of water from the well as we've been
doing for decades. (Speaking of self, here.)

Erik

-- 
"If you want to eat hippopotamus, you've got to pay the freight."
 - attributed to an IBM guy, about why IBM software uses so much memory.

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What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-06 04:10 +0200
  Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2019-06-06 04:50 +0200
  Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-06-06 04:50 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2019-06-06 05:20 +0200
      Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2019-06-06 17:00 +0200
  Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-06 09:30 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-06 13:20 +0200
      Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-06-06 13:40 +0200
        Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-06 14:20 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-06-06 14:30 +0200
      Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-06 14:40 +0200
        Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-06 21:10 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2019-06-06 17:00 +0200
  Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-07 18:00 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-08 03:40 +0200
      Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-08 04:10 +0200
        Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-08 05:50 +0200
          Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-08 07:20 +0200
            Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-08 10:50 +0200
              Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2019-06-08 16:30 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-08 17:30 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-06-09 09:20 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2019-06-09 10:10 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2019-06-09 10:30 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-09 12:00 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-09 13:10 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-06-09 17:00 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-06-09 20:20 +0200
                Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Erik Christiansen <dvalin@internode.on.net> - 2019-06-10 06:10 +0200
  Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-10 10:50 +0200
    Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-10 13:20 +0200
      Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-06-10 15:50 +0200
        Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2019-06-10 16:20 +0200
        Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-06-10 18:00 +0200

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