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Re: reboot stuff doesn't start

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	Hi.

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:53:04AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 12:11:29PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 05:45:56PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > root@coyote:GenesAmandaHelper-0.61$ cat /etc/rc.local
> > > #!/bin/sh -e
> > 
> > Any execution error will terminate the script.
> 
> The blame is on Debian for that one.  That's what Debian put in the
> default /etc/rc.local file in every release up to jessie.  (They "fixed"
> this in stretch by not having a default /etc/rc.local file at all, but
> if you upgraded to stretch, you still have the old default file.)

I disagree. /etc/rc.local is a part of init (whenever it's sysvinit or
systemd or upstart), being run as root. If something goes wrong there -
it should fail as verbose as possible (yep, journald is worthless in
this regard). Helps with diagnostics and all that.


> Debian's policy for developers is to use -e with all shell scripts
> (horrible!),

On the contrary. Helps with error catching, limits the damage (all
package scripts are executed as root), promotes at least some kind of
code quality.
Side effects may include non-removing packages (failed prerm script), of
course, but they have bugs.debian.org for these cases.


> but inflicting that same policy on end users is not wise.

End users can remove that '-e' flag if they believe it's problematic.
rc.local is a simple shell script, open to all kinds of abuse including
this one.

Reco

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reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-26 17:40 +0200
  Re: reboot stuff doesn't start john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2019-05-26 18:20 +0200
    Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-26 23:50 +0200
      Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2019-05-27 11:00 +0200
        Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-27 20:00 +0200
      Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-27 11:20 +0200
        Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-27 20:10 +0200
          Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-27 21:40 +0200
            Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-28 00:00 +0200
        Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-28 17:00 +0200
          Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-28 18:00 +0200
            Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-28 19:30 +0200
              Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-28 19:40 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-28 19:50 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-28 20:00 +0200
              Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-28 19:40 +0200
              Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-28 19:40 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-28 23:00 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-29 06:30 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-29 12:10 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-29 12:30 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-29 12:50 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2019-05-29 12:50 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-29 13:00 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-29 20:00 +0200
              Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-28 20:30 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-28 21:40 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-29 03:50 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-29 14:30 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-29 17:10 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2019-05-29 17:20 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2019-05-29 17:30 +0200
                Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2019-05-29 17:30 +0200
  Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2019-05-26 21:40 +0200
    Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2019-05-27 00:10 +0200
  Re: reboot stuff doesn't start Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2019-05-29 20:40 +0200

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