Simplified Debianization Process (was: Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT)

From	Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Simplified Debianization Process (was: Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT)
Date	2019-05-28 11:10 +0200
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Hi Thomas,

On 2019-05-28 07:48, Thomas Dettbarn wrote:
> Debian was quite more complicated, and the documentation on that 
> topic was scattered all over the interwebs. Here I had to download
> the sources, rename the directories, rename the package, repackage,
> change some files, count the number of spaces at the beginning of a
> line... I did it, but it is rather frustrating for new developers. 
> 
> Please please help them! :)

That complexity comes from various reasons.

There is an on-going project named duprkit[1], which aims to provide
a simplified Debian packaging experience. Specifically, it defines
a "Recipe" format (YAML+HFT), which can be automatically converted
into a Debianized source tree (including downloading the source).
This tool set allows:

  * automatic Recipe guessing (nothing -> Recipe)
  * translating Recipe into debian/ directory (Recipe -> debian/ dir)
  * automatic debian/ directory generation (nothing -> Recipe -> debian/
dir)
  * Recipe -> .deb/.dsc convertion (download, extract, debianize, build)

I plan to beat both dh-make and debmake in the future.
(although you might be interested in them)

However, the problem is, even if this "duprkit" aims at
"Simplification" and "Automization", documentation is still
a problem due to lack of time and energy. The only thing
you can read is the code and some examples[2]. Plus, due
to the same reason y I'm still dragging the next major release
after a significant redesign.

[1] https://github.com/dupr/duprkit
[2] https://github.com/dupr/duprkit/tree/master/examples

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      Difficult Packaging Practices Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-26 23:10 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org> - 2019-05-27 00:00 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 01:30 +0200
          Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 13:40 +0200
        Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2019-05-27 08:20 +0200
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                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices Vincent Bernat <bernat@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 08:50 +0200
                RE:Difficult Packaging Practices PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2019-05-28 09:10 +0200
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                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) Thomas Dettbarn <dettus@dettus.net> - 2019-05-28 09:50 +0200
                Re: Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) Alex Mestiashvili <amestia@rsh2.donotuse.de> - 2019-05-28 10:20 +0200
                RE:Difficult Packaging Practices (OT) PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2019-05-28 10:50 +0200
                Simplified Debianization Process (was: Re: Difficult Packaging  Practices (OT) Mo Zhou <lumin@debian.org> - 2019-05-28 11:10 +0200
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                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to  realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2019-06-03 11:50 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to  realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices)) Joël Krähemann <jkraehemann@gmail.com> - 2019-06-06 20:50 +0200
                Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-06-03 17:00 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2019-05-31 07:20 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult Packaging Practices) Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2019-05-31 08:30 +0200
                Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas (Was: Difficult  Packaging Practices) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-05-31 17:40 +0200
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